Linux Emacs and handwriting recognition

nemsys · 01-12-2015, 11:44 AM

As the title suggests I am searching for an ebook to run emacs on (mad I know)

There is a voice in the back of my head that says just buy a ASUS VivoTab Note 8 or similar and run win32 Emacs. But its just not the same

eReaders seen in the wild running native linux

(not interested in lcd models)

Kobo
Nook simple touch
Kindle
Onyx Boox

Any others ?

Links / User experience etc

Cheers

WillAdams · 01-12-2015, 12:36 PM

Before you go too far down this road, you need to look at:

- how well HWR works in Linux --- the best I've found is Cell Writer, which is awkwardly comb-based and doesn't allow connected writing
- how well emacs works when being controlled in a graphical environment w/ no keyboard available --- while I've oft' considered learning emacs, I prefer pen computers and haven't found it a good fit

My inclination for this sort of thing would be to instead use a LiveScribe and send the text files into emacs --- but I just picked up an Asus Vivotab Note 8 and am thrilled w/ it. If you remove the emacs requirement it would work quite well.

You might also enjoy reading Jerry Kaplan's _StartUp_ for a background on pen computing.

nemsys · 01-13-2015, 02:23 AM

Ok Looked into the whole handwriting recognition issue and yes i must agree Linux HWR is little better than an on screen keyboard (in fact i think on screen maybe faster).

::Thankyou:: for your insight

WillAdams · 01-13-2015, 09:34 AM

I use Cell Writer on my ThinkPad X61t, and it works well enough, and is fast enough that I don't feel obliged to switch the display around to laptop mode if I'm in convertible-slate mode.

It's just that emacs was built around a keyboard and keyboard modifier keys.

I'd love to see a version of it re-worked around pen-computing --- there are a lot of neat ideas for that which aren't yet fully developed:

- codea --- http://twolivesleft.com/Codea/ there are some nifty touch-interface-gestures for inputting parameters
- pie menus --- these need some more work, though I found the implementation in NovaMind really interesting
- gestures --- every time I get used to a set, I change machines or OSs --- they really should be built into a menu system though (to facilitate learning them) --- "Punch" in Altsys Virtuoso on my NeXT Cube was a quick, easy, fluid gesture which I found quite natural on my Wacom ArtZ

I've been meaning to look into Code Writer: http://www.actiprosoftware.com/products/apps/codewriter --- wish there was a Metro (or native Mac OS X) version of LyX though: http://www.lyx.org/

There are also some interesting alternative input systems --- Dasher is kind of cool, and I've always wished that the Lightning Link TabletPC on-screen keyboard had become more popular.

William

01-12-2015, 11:44 AM	#1
nemsys Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2015 Device: none	eReaders Known to be linux rootable As the title suggests I am searching for an ebook to run emacs on (mad I know) There is a voice in the back of my head that says just buy a ASUS VivoTab Note 8 or similar and run win32 Emacs. But its just not the same eReaders seen in the wild running native linux (not interested in lcd models) Kobo Nook simple touch Kindle Onyx Boox Any others ? Links / User experience etc Cheers Last edited by nemsys; 01-13-2015 at 03:04 AM.

01-13-2015, 02:23 AM	#3
nemsys Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2015 Device: none	Ok Looked into the whole handwriting recognition issue and yes i must agree Linux HWR is little better than an on screen keyboard (in fact i think on screen maybe faster). ::Thankyou:: for your insight Last edited by nemsys; 01-13-2015 at 02:35 AM.

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01-12-2015, 12:36 PM	#2
WillAdams Wizard Posts: 1,258 Karma: 3439432 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (300ppi), Samsung Galaxy Book 12	Before you go too far down this road, you need to look at: - how well HWR works in Linux --- the best I've found is Cell Writer, which is awkwardly comb-based and doesn't allow connected writing - how well emacs works when being controlled in a graphical environment w/ no keyboard available --- while I've oft' considered learning emacs, I prefer pen computers and haven't found it a good fit My inclination for this sort of thing would be to instead use a LiveScribe and send the text files into emacs --- but I just picked up an Asus Vivotab Note 8 and am thrilled w/ it. If you remove the emacs requirement it would work quite well. You might also enjoy reading Jerry Kaplan's _StartUp_ for a background on pen computing.

01-13-2015, 09:34 AM	#4
WillAdams Wizard Posts: 1,258 Karma: 3439432 Join Date: Feb 2008 Device: Amazon Kindle Paperwhite (300ppi), Samsung Galaxy Book 12	I use Cell Writer on my ThinkPad X61t, and it works well enough, and is fast enough that I don't feel obliged to switch the display around to laptop mode if I'm in convertible-slate mode. It's just that emacs was built around a keyboard and keyboard modifier keys. I'd love to see a version of it re-worked around pen-computing --- there are a lot of neat ideas for that which aren't yet fully developed: - codea --- http://twolivesleft.com/Codea/ there are some nifty touch-interface-gestures for inputting parameters - pie menus --- these need some more work, though I found the implementation in NovaMind really interesting - gestures --- every time I get used to a set, I change machines or OSs --- they really should be built into a menu system though (to facilitate learning them) --- "Punch" in Altsys Virtuoso on my NeXT Cube was a quick, easy, fluid gesture which I found quite natural on my Wacom ArtZ I've been meaning to look into Code Writer: http://www.actiprosoftware.com/products/apps/codewriter --- wish there was a Metro (or native Mac OS X) version of LyX though: http://www.lyx.org/ There are also some interesting alternative input systems --- Dasher is kind of cool, and I've always wished that the Lightning Link TabletPC on-screen keyboard had become more popular. William

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