Long paragraph page breaks

gogreen · 10-13-2014, 06:14 AM

When converting Sigil, epub to epub in Calibre and then viewing on ereaders such as Aldiko and nook, pages appear to break at long paragraphs. Can anyone suggest an html code to insert to prevent this when formatting in Sigil.

Regards

theducks · 10-13-2014, 09:41 AM

This is a generic EPUB / Akido question Moved

Doitsu · 10-13-2014, 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gogreen

When converting Sigil, epub to epub in Calibre and then viewing on ereaders such as Aldiko and nook, pages appear to break at long paragraphs. Can anyone suggest an html code to insert to prevent this when formatting in Sigil.

This problem is most likely caused by Calibre's file splitting algorithm that splits .html files based on their size and might break up long paragraphs.

I'd recommend splitting files in Sigil instead:

1. Open the ePub file with Sigil and switch to Code View.
2. Identify the heading tag used for chapter headings, e.g. <h1>Chapter 1</h1>
3. Insert Sigil split markers using search and replace. I.e.

Find:<h1>
Replace:<hr class="sigil_split_marker" /><h1>

4. Select Edit > Split At Markers to split the file.

Toxaris · 10-13-2014, 10:07 AM

Why would you convert ePUB to ePUB in Calibre when it is already fine?

gogreen · 10-13-2014, 10:30 AM

Hi, Thanks for your response. The files (chapters) have all been split correctly and pages in the book do break before the chapters. It is the paragraphs that appear to split within the chapters that I am having concerns. <p is used as the beginning of each paragraph and </span></p> at the end of each paragraph. Could it be a font or margin issue?

Regards

Doitsu · 10-13-2014, 10:55 AM

It might be a limitation of Aldiko/Nook. Does the book display OK with the desktop version of ADE?

gogreen · 10-13-2014, 11:01 AM

It displays fine in googlebooks. I am sure there is a quick coding fix or maybe I am not selecting the correct details in Calibre. Hope someone knows as this is very annoying.

gogreen · 10-13-2014, 11:47 AM

I have worked out the problem only seems to appear once I increase the font size above 14. I guess the problem must be in the style definitions in Sigil I am using. Any help would be appreciated.

PeterT · 10-13-2014, 01:19 PM

This is possibly Widows and Orphans settings coming into effect with the reader trying to keep the paragraph together.

Toxaris · 10-13-2014, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

This is possibly Widows and Orphans settings coming into effect with the reader trying to keep the paragraph together.

That is my suspicion too.

gogreen · 10-14-2014, 03:03 AM

Tried a few different readers and some such as google, UB, ebook reader all work fine, whilst others such as aldiko and nook start to split paragraphs onto different pages in some chapters. It must be the difference between the readers I suppose but it would be nice to know why and try and sort out the code, so the book works perfectly on all epub readers. Maybe I ask too much?

Toxaris · 10-14-2014, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gogreen

...so the book works perfectly on all epub readers. Maybe I ask too much?

No, but that is fantasy land. The specifications are setup very flexible. That causes that various interpretations of the specifications are all valid. Therefore what works on one reader will not work on the other reader even if they follow the specifications. That being said, not even all readers follow the specifications...

mikelv · 10-14-2014, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gogreen

Tried a few different readers and some such as google, UB, ebook reader all work fine, whilst others such as aldiko and nook start to split paragraphs onto different pages in some chapters. It must be the difference between the readers I suppose but it would be nice to know why and try and sort out the code, so the book works perfectly on all epub readers. Maybe I ask too much?

In my opinion it's not a good idea to try to avoid page breaks. EPUB is designed for reflowable content, so you should let it flow

.

JSWolf · 10-14-2014, 11:30 AM

In the body CSS style, set windows and orphans both to 1.

Code:

body {
windows : 1;
orphans: 1
}

gogreen · 11-18-2014, 05:00 AM

Hi, Could someone please tell me where and how I add the code widows:0;orphans:0; to CSS in calibre in edit book tab. Not very proficient with Calibre editing as normally do editing with Sigil in HTML.

10-13-2014, 06:14 AM	#1
gogreen Member Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: none	Long paragraph page breaks When converting Sigil, epub to epub in Calibre and then viewing on ereaders such as Aldiko and nook, pages appear to break at long paragraphs. Can anyone suggest an html code to insert to prevent this when formatting in Sigil. Regards

10-14-2014, 11:30 AM	#14
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 79,657 Karma: 145864619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	In the body CSS style, set windows and orphans both to 1. Code: body { windows : 1; orphans: 1 }

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theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,012 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	This is a generic EPUB / Akido question Moved

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Toxaris Wizard Posts: 4,520 Karma: 121692313 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Heemskerk, NL Device: PRS-T1, Kobo Touch, Kobo Aura	Why would you convert ePUB to ePUB in Calibre when it is already fine?

10-13-2014, 10:30 AM	#5
gogreen Member Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: none	Hi, Thanks for your response. The files (chapters) have all been split correctly and pages in the book do break before the chapters. It is the paragraphs that appear to split within the chapters that I am having concerns. <p is used as the beginning of each paragraph and </span></p> at the end of each paragraph. Could it be a font or margin issue? Regards

10-13-2014, 10:55 AM	#6
Doitsu Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,725 Karma: 24031401 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: Kindle PW2	It might be a limitation of Aldiko/Nook. Does the book display OK with the desktop version of ADE?

10-13-2014, 11:01 AM	#7
gogreen Member Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: none	It displays fine in googlebooks. I am sure there is a quick coding fix or maybe I am not selecting the correct details in Calibre. Hope someone knows as this is very annoying.

10-13-2014, 11:47 AM	#8
gogreen Member Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: none	I have worked out the problem only seems to appear once I increase the font size above 14. I guess the problem must be in the style definitions in Sigil I am using. Any help would be appreciated.

10-13-2014, 01:19 PM	#9
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,471 Karma: 78880114 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	This is possibly Widows and Orphans settings coming into effect with the reader trying to keep the paragraph together.

10-14-2014, 03:03 AM	#11
gogreen Member Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: none	Tried a few different readers and some such as google, UB, ebook reader all work fine, whilst others such as aldiko and nook start to split paragraphs onto different pages in some chapters. It must be the difference between the readers I suppose but it would be nice to know why and try and sort out the code, so the book works perfectly on all epub readers. Maybe I ask too much?

11-18-2014, 05:00 AM	#15
gogreen Member Posts: 16 Karma: 10 Join Date: Apr 2012 Device: none	Hi, Could someone please tell me where and how I add the code widows:0;orphans:0; to CSS in calibre in edit book tab. Not very proficient with Calibre editing as normally do editing with Sigil in HTML.

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