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Old 12-15-2014, 10:03 AM   #1
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Correctly Identifying Publisher

Hope this is in the right thread - it relates to management insofar as correctly identifying metadata.

Anyway...

Sometimes multiple publishers and locations are listed in sequence in a book. For example:

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PENGUIN CLASSICS

Published by the Penguin Group

Penguin Books Ltd, 80 Strand, London WC2R 0RL, England

Penguin Group (USA) Inc., 375 Hudson Street, New York, New York 10014, USA

Penguin Group (Canada), 90 Eglinton Avenue East, Suite 700, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M4P 2Y3 (a division of Pearson Penguin Canada Inc.)

Penguin Books Ltd, Registered Offices: 80 Strand, London WC2R 0RL, England

www.penguin.com

First published in Great Britain by William Heinemann Ltd 1968

Published in Penguin Classics 2011
Is it correct to assume that the first listed is the correct publisher of the current book, in this case, "Penguin Books Ltd"?

Or is it more appropriate to attribute it to "Penguin Group" or even "Penguin Classics"?
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Old 12-15-2014, 10:36 AM   #2
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BPH's have consolidated so much that Penguin encompasses too much

I have been revising my 'Publishers' to be the 'Imprint' (as found on the cover/spine of a paper book or Copyright/Title page) : Penguin Classics

Roc
Obsidian Mystery
Baen Fantasy, Baen Science Fiction,


I also drop the : Inc, Ltd, Publishers ... (but leave: Books)

Author Published instead of a bazillion author names (when the 'Publisher' was the same as Author)

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In that case, "Penguin Classics" would be the imprint, not the publisher, I think. Or perhaps even the collection? "Penguin Books Ltd" would be the publisher, and "Penguin Group" the holding, although by saying "Published by the Penguin Group", Penguin itself defines "Penguin Group" as a whole as the publisher, even though technically the Penguin Group owns many publishing houses aside from Penguin Books Ltd.

Yeah, it can be very confusing. I'd go with just "Penguin" and carry on to the next book, which is published by... Hachette. Argh.

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It eve gets worse when the ebook version is 'published' by a different company than the print version.
Just look at the list of names published by Baen e-books (formerly Webscriptions)
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Good lord, I'm this close to just hiding the publisher column if only to make it easier organizing the library and abating the tick.

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Good lord, I'm this close to just hiding the publisher column if only to make it easier organizing the library.
When was the last time you chose a book to read by Publisher?
I buy books from Publishers (Yea Baen), but I choose to read by Series or Author (or the one with the blue fish on the cover )

Publisher helps keep track of 'editions' and needed details for Academic purposes
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I hid publisher on the first day.

Except with the academic exception^^, it will never matter.
Title and author and series are the important bits, and published date sometimes.

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I hid publisher on the first day.

Except with the academic exception^^, it will never matter.
Title and author and series are the important bits, and published date sometimes.
I think I waited a week to hide it.
I have a paper Library documented, so I have the 'Ace' version and I may have the 'Baen' (they have been reprinting some of the oldies, but still, Goodies ) versions
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@please55 - for regular books I try to put the original publisher and publication date into publisher and pubdate, otherwise I leave them empty - so for the example you cited I would have 'William Heinemann Ltd' and '1968'

Why - well IMO an original publisher (e.g. Heinemann) probably did a lot more to bring the book to fruition than any republisher (e.g. Penguin) ever did - therefore I prefer to give them the angstrom of kudos a publisher might get from having their name in my catalogue :lol:

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