Pocket to Kindle Hebrew problem

omerros · 09-12-2014, 12:01 PM

Hello everyone,
I've tried Calibre in order to read my Pocket feed with my Kindle Paperwhite. It works amazingly well, except for Hebrew.

With Hebrew I get the font to show correctly, as well as the letters, but all the words are shown backward, so a sentence like "I want to buy milk" shows as "milk buy to want I".
Is there any way around this?

Thank you,
Omer

omerros · 09-20-2014, 06:59 AM

I've been still struggling with this. Does any one have a solution or any idea?

Thanks again

kovidgoyal · 09-20-2014, 07:05 AM

You probably need to make sure the hebrew text is inside a tag with the proper lang and dir attributes.

Like this:

some hebrew text

omerros · 09-22-2014, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

You probably need to make sure the hebrew text is inside a tag with the proper lang and dir attributes.

Like this:

some hebrew text

Thank you kovidgoyal!
Do you mean I should add it to the text itself? or something else?
I'm actually taking Hebrew articles form Pocket (using the "Fetch News" feature). Should I edit it afterwards? Is it even possible this way?

eschwartz · 09-22-2014, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omerros

Thank you kovidgoyal!
Do you mean I should add it to the text itself? or something else?
I'm actually taking Hebrew articles form Pocket (using the "Fetch News" feature). Should I edit it afterwards? Is it even possible this way?

Yes, just edit the EPUB. (The shortcut key for the calibre ebook editor is "T".

omerros · 09-23-2014, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Yes, just edit the EPUB. (The shortcut key for the calibre ebook editor is "T".

Thanks eschwartz.
I tried it and it didn't help. Is there a chance that it's overwritten by either a tag or one of the css I see in the beginning of the file?
Is there a way to try and automatically set the right tags?
By the way, I had to convert the file to EPUB to edit it.

Will it help if I upload the EPUB or anything?

eschwartz · 09-23-2014, 02:26 PM

It may be being overridden, so you should check.

Normally, it can be automatically set just by going to the Edit Metadata window in the library GUI and setting the metadata Languages attribute -- however, I do not know if that will set RTL direction. And it won't help if it is one ebook with both English and Hebrew articles.

If you want, you can upload it, and I could take a look.

omerros · 09-24-2014, 05:10 AM

Thanks again.
I've attached the EPUB file. Specifically, I edited index_split_002.html (you can find the '<span lang="he" ' there.

If I understand correctly, there is no use in editing the metadata if the EPUB contains both Hebrew and English, am I wrong?
If that's the case, is there a way to cause the "Fetch News" ignore Hebrew articles so they at least aren't moved to "Archived" in my Pocket feed, and not included in the final EPUB?

Thank you!

eschwartz · 09-24-2014, 03:44 PM

I edited both the EPUB and AZW3 and saw the lang tag you entered -- it was nowhere else.

I converted the EPUB to AZW3, and it worked fine. In all articles, my Kindle (Touch) got the order right.

Converting to MOBI resulted in all Hebrew showing up backward. The lang setting was stripped from the one place it had been. (And yet the calibre viewer still displayed even this properly, it embeds webkit.)

I suspect the .pobi format which is used for periodicals would have the same flaw, (it is based on MOBI not KF8) however I cannot test it as there is no POBI output converter, except the one built into the Get news.

Moral of the story -- it seems the Kindles only properly supports RTL languages when using AZW3. I will keep this in mind when I finally decide to make that siddur-for-Kindle I was planning -- a few years ago -- to make.

I have not ventured into this sticky end of the pool before.

omerros · 09-26-2014, 01:50 PM

eschwartz, thanks a lot for your message!
Unfortunately, when I changed the format to AZW3, and tried to email it to my kindle address, Calibre pops the message "No suitable formats; Auto convert the following books to MOBI before sending via email?"
When I choose No, it is not sent.
Do you know what I should do?

And considering it works as AZW3, is there a way to make the "Fetch News" function convert it automatically?

Thanks a lot again!

theducks · 09-26-2014, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omerros

eschwartz, thanks a lot for your message!
Unfortunately, when I changed the format to AZW3, and tried to email it to my kindle address, Calibre pops the message "No suitable formats; Auto convert the following books to MOBI before sending via email?"
When I choose No, it is not sent.
Do you know what I should do?

And considering it works as AZW3, is there a way to make the "Fetch News" function convert it automatically?

Thanks a lot again!

AZW3 can not be mailed via Amazon (their rules).
Side load,
Use the experimental browser on the K and calibre content server

omerros · 09-27-2014, 05:38 AM

Thanks theducks,
I tried and had some problems, so eventually I plugged the Kindle to my PC using USB and the AZW3 format did fix the hebrew problem.
However, it makes the whole process a lot less automatic and fun, so I'm considering two options:

1) Make the "Fetch news" ignore Hebrew articles and just leave them in pocket. Is there a way to do that? I can tag them somehow in Pocket if needed.

2) Automatically convert the articles to AZW3. Is that possible?

By the way, as you probably know, this format is less fun as I can't see it as an issue of a journal with different articles but rather one long book..

What do you think?
Thanks again

theducks · 09-27-2014, 11:41 AM

What I think has no bearing on your problem (besides, I only read English

).

I like AZW3 because I can make a book look almost the same as on my ADE based reader.

The WiFi mostly stays off on both the K's in this household, we side load. ( I even used to leave the Access point off until I got a Tablet and a WiFi enabled phone. Color me paranoid, but business has enough hooks set that I don't need a solid line in). I am too cheap to hang at the local Starbucks using their free WiFi. I load before I go with more books than I could ever read in Days, let alone a few hours

eschwartz · 09-27-2014, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omerros

Thanks theducks,
I tried and had some problems, so eventually I plugged the Kindle to my PC using USB and the AZW3 format did fix the hebrew problem.
However, it makes the whole process a lot less automatic and fun, so I'm considering two options:

1) Make the "Fetch news" ignore Hebrew articles and just leave them in pocket. Is there a way to do that? I can tag them somehow in Pocket if needed.

2) Automatically convert the articles to AZW3. Is that possible?

By the way, as you probably know, this format is less fun as I can't see it as an issue of a journal with different articles but rather one long book..

What do you think?
Thanks again

Yep, I know.

Amazon is a little behind the eight ball with regards to their periodicals. And with regards to the send-to-kindle service.

You can set a tag to restrict which articles get pulled, under the "Advanced" tab. This should restrict the feed to only the articles with that tag in pocket.

omerros · 09-28-2014, 03:59 PM

Thank you both for your replies.

eschwartz, I looked at the Advanced tab, yet I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean the "Extra tags" space? If I insert a tag, it means that only if I tag an article in pocket with that tag - then it will be fetched to Calibre?

09-12-2014, 12:01 PM	#1
omerros Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Pocket to Kindle Hebrew problem Hello everyone, I've tried Calibre in order to read my Pocket feed with my Kindle Paperwhite. It works amazingly well, except for Hebrew. With Hebrew I get the font to show correctly, as well as the letters, but all the words are shown backward, so a sentence like "I want to buy milk" shows as "milk buy to want I". Is there any way around this? Thank you, Omer

09-20-2014, 07:05 AM	#3
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,260 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	You probably need to make sure the hebrew text is inside a tag with the proper lang and dir attributes. Like this: <span lang="he" dir="rtl">some hebrew text</span>

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09-20-2014, 06:59 AM	#2
omerros Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	I've been still struggling with this. Does any one have a solution or any idea? Thanks again

09-23-2014, 02:26 PM	#7
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	It may be being overridden, so you should check. Normally, it can be automatically set just by going to the Edit Metadata window in the library GUI and setting the metadata Languages attribute -- however, I do not know if that will set RTL direction. And it won't help if it is one ebook with both English and Hebrew articles. If you want, you can upload it, and I could take a look.

09-26-2014, 01:50 PM	#10
omerros Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	eschwartz, thanks a lot for your message! Unfortunately, when I changed the format to AZW3, and tried to email it to my kindle address, Calibre pops the message "No suitable formats; Auto convert the following books to MOBI before sending via email?" When I choose No, it is not sent. Do you know what I should do? And considering it works as AZW3, is there a way to make the "Fetch News" function convert it automatically? Thanks a lot again!

09-27-2014, 05:38 AM	#12
omerros Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Thanks theducks, I tried and had some problems, so eventually I plugged the Kindle to my PC using USB and the AZW3 format did fix the hebrew problem. However, it makes the whole process a lot less automatic and fun, so I'm considering two options: 1) Make the "Fetch news" ignore Hebrew articles and just leave them in pocket. Is there a way to do that? I can tag them somehow in Pocket if needed. 2) Automatically convert the articles to AZW3. Is that possible? By the way, as you probably know, this format is less fun as I can't see it as an issue of a journal with different articles but rather one long book.. What do you think? Thanks again

09-27-2014, 11:41 AM	#13
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 30,957 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	What I think has no bearing on your problem (besides, I only read English ). I like AZW3 because I can make a book look almost the same as on my ADE based reader. The WiFi mostly stays off on both the K's in this household, we side load. ( I even used to leave the Access point off until I got a Tablet and a WiFi enabled phone. Color me paranoid, but business has enough hooks set that I don't need a solid line in). I am too cheap to hang at the local Starbucks using their free WiFi. I load before I go with more books than I could ever read in Days, let alone a few hours

09-28-2014, 03:59 PM	#15
omerros Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2014 Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Thank you both for your replies. eschwartz, I looked at the Advanced tab, yet I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean the "Extra tags" space? If I insert a tag, it means that only if I tag an article in pocket with that tag - then it will be fetched to Calibre?

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