Basic Kindle and Paper White

jbcohen · 09-19-2014, 09:38 PM

As of my last look at my other thread on upgrading to the new amazon ereaders there were four of people that said that we are interested in the basic kindle and the paper white. Why are you not interested in the Voyage?

I ask for this reason, my paper white is having some issues, although its still operational. It is having enough issues that I might be interested in a new model. I am not particularly fond of the $200 bill for the new top of the line e-reader.

texasnightowl · 09-20-2014, 12:22 AM

Mostly...the $200 price tag. Yes, I had an original Kindle which was $360 at the time, but that was ages ago. My sweet spot for an ereader is $80-125. Any more than that and you are easily in tablet territory.

As for the 300 ppi...eh, whatever. I am so extremely nearsighted (my glasses prescription runs to -11 with 2.75 astigmatism on top) that as long as there is good contrast or I can crank up the font size, the better resolution doesn't do all that much for me.

The hapatic page turn buttons DO interest me...I like physical page turn buttons (which is why I am still using a K3/Keyboard) but ... again ... $200. meh.

I plan to watch for a flash deal on a Touch or a Paperwhite around Black Friday/Cyber Monday.

anesthezea · 09-20-2014, 01:15 AM

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chanfm · 09-20-2014, 01:42 AM

I will upgrade to the Voyage if I can get it at a lower price. I think $200 is a lot when PW2 at $120 is an already excellent device. I am not fond of the edge to edge bezel. I once had a Kobo Aura and was constantly trying to clean the smudges off the surface. I don't need page turning buttons.

I love the 300 DPI and the fact that it is only 180g. I would love to get the Voyage for these reasons but the reasons are not worth $200.

So.....I will stay happily with my excellent PW2 until a good deal for the Voyage comes along....

booklover6 · 09-20-2014, 08:14 AM

I didn't order due to the price, and the things I don't like about the kindle readers in general....poor font sizes and margins.

jbcohen · 09-20-2014, 10:20 AM

I hear you, we all need to look at the added technology and come to a decision of what the new technology is worth to us. Had the voyage tech been offered at the paper white price, I would have bought. I am still thinking about the matter now, I don't think that I am willing to pay $80 for the increased resolution, its text after all and how high a resolution and how high a resolution do I need for text, if it was graphics that I am looking at I can see that but this is text. Am I willing to pay $80 for the light sensor? I don't think so I'll pay an additional $15 max for that. So we need to decide how much are we willing to pay for the new technology.

GoSharks · 09-20-2014, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jbcohen

I don't think that I am willing to pay $80 for the increased resolution, its text after all and how high a resolution *snip* do I need for text, if it was graphics that I am looking at I can see that but this is text.

This!
*Page buttons? - I was really annoyed when they went away, but now I'm used to not having them. So, meh.
*Smaller? - I like the size factor of the PW. But then I don't carry it in a pocket. Not sure the Voyage is small enough for that.
*Titanium? - Really don't care as my e-reader NEVER goes naked.

*Brighter? - I never have my PW past 1/3 brightness anyway.

So, though I really was anticipating this new reader, I think I'll pass (for now

). Maybe when my gadget-itis gets out of hand and the price comes down....or if the in hand reviews from this forum are stellar!

Josieb1 · 09-20-2014, 10:59 AM

I have ordered it. I want the size, the weight, the flush screen and the buttons (I know they are pressure points but they are buttons to me). It was a considered purchase it took me 24 hours to get over the price but at the end of the day I wanted it. I have a PW2 that my DH will have and I have sold my second kindle, a PW1 already for £70 so that goes towards the cost.

I kept the cost down by going for the Belkin case which is £30, and it's the lightest case anyway.

GoSharks · 09-20-2014, 11:03 AM

@Josieb1-
Your one of the ones I'd like an 'in hand review' from...

(see, gadget-itis already setting in!)

Josieb1 · 09-20-2014, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoSharks

@Josieb1-
Your one of the ones I'd like an 'in hand review' from...

(see, gaget-itis already setting in!)

I'm in the UK we are two weeks behind the US launch so I won't get mine until after the 4th of November

but I'll be sure to post my opinion.

krazy4katz · 09-20-2014, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I have ordered it. I want the size, the weight, the flush screen and the buttons (I know they are pressure points but they are buttons to me). It was a considered purchase it took me 24 hours to get over the price but at the end of the day I wanted it. I have a PW2 that my DH will have and I have sold my second kindle, a PW1 already for £70 so that goes towards the cost.

I kept the cost down by going for the Belkin case which is £30, and it's the lightest case anyway.

I feel the same way. What is stopping me at the moment is GUILT at ABANDONMENT, not the price. I know this is crazy. I have had my Kindle Keyboard since 2010 and still love it. I passed on the PWs because of the lower storage capacity (I know - not logical) and loss of page turning buttons. So the Voyage has everything I want, but… I feel guilty abandoning my faithful KK! What did it ever do to me but provide an enjoyable reading experience? So sad when I think about it. So crazy too…

I am sure I will break down in the next few weeks and order it, as I am usually a sucker for improved resolution, but I am really struggling with viewing my KK as a person.

P.S. Do you know if the Belkin cover turns the kindle on and off the way the Amazon one does?

Josieb1 · 09-20-2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by krazy4katz

I feel the same way. What is stopping me at the moment is GUILT at ABANDONMENT, not the price. I know this is crazy. I have had my Kindle Keyboard since 2010 and still love it. I passed on the PWs because of the lower storage capacity (I know - not logical) and loss of page turning buttons. So the Voyage has everything I want, but… I feel guilty abandoning my faithful KK! What did it ever do to me but provide an enjoyable reading experience? So sad when I think about it. So crazy too…

I am sure I will break down in the next few weeks and order it, as I am usually a sucker for improved resolution, but I am really struggling with viewing my KK as a person.

P.S. Do you know if the Belkin cover turns the kindle on and off the way the Amazon one does?

Hubby felt the same way about his KK until he tried a Paperwhite, then it was lust at sight.

I don't know if the Belkin is a sleep cover. It has a magnet in it so I can only hope. Tbh I didn't fancy the Origami cases (or the price for the red leather one) and I wanted a light case. The Belkin is the lightest at 118gms, the Origami's are 136gms and for some reason I cannot fathom the Incipios are over 300gms

So for day one the Belkin seemed the best option.

soulfuldog · 09-20-2014, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krazy4katz

So the Voyage has everything I want, but… I feel guilty abandoning my faithful KK! What did it ever do to me but provide an enjoyable reading experience? So sad when I think about it. So crazy too…

If possible, find someone you can gift it too, you won't feel so bad that way (its what I did when I upgraded from my KK to the PW2). I feel better knowing its encouraging someone else into the world of ereading and not just coldly sold on*, or even worse, lying unused somewhere!

*If I were to sell my PW2 to upgrade to the Voyage, that'd be a different thing! Now that I'm used to it, I enjoy reading on it far more than my KK, but don't have the same emotional attachment to it?!

jbcohen · 09-20-2014, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krazy4katz

I feel the same way. What is stopping me at the moment is GUILT at ABANDONMENT, not the price. I know this is crazy. I have had my Kindle Keyboard since 2010 and still love it. I passed on the PWs because of the lower storage capacity (I know - not logical) and loss of page turning buttons. So the Voyage has everything I want, but… I feel guilty abandoning my faithful KK! What did it ever do to me but provide an enjoyable reading experience? So sad when I think about it. So crazy too…

I am sure I will break down in the next few weeks and order it, as I am usually a sucker for improved resolution, but I am really struggling with viewing my KK as a person.

P.S. Do you know if the Belkin cover turns the kindle on and off the way the Amazon one does?

If you kindle keyboard broke down would you be comfortable waiting for a few weeks for the new one to arrive before going back to the books? I can't stand not to be without a book of some sort of book in front of me, so I am looking for a second. I am leaning towards a pair of paper whites.

JoHunt · 09-20-2014, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Josieb1

I don't know if the Belkin is a sleep cover. It has a magnet in it so I can only hope. Tbh I didn't fancy the Origami cases (or the price for the red leather one) and I wanted a light case. The Belkin is the lightest at 118gms, the Origami's are 136gms and for some reason I cannot fathom the Incipios are over 300gms

So for day one the Belkin seemed the best option.

I'm used to using a cover that opens like a book (such as the PERFECT Amazon PW cover - grrrrrrrrr

that Amazon does not have a similar style for the Voyage), but the Belkin one looks a bit bulky to me. I ordered a red leather Origami case to give it a try. I can always return it if no good, but I'm hoping that since the sensor strips are on both sides, Amazon is subtly letting me know that I really do need a cover that folds from the top for the Voyage

09-19-2014, 09:38 PM	#1
jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,030 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Where am I? Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature edition and a Samsung S24 Ultra	Basic Kindle and Paper White As of my last look at my other thread on upgrading to the new amazon ereaders there were four of people that said that we are interested in the basic kindle and the paper white. Why are you not interested in the Voyage? I ask for this reason, my paper white is having some issues, although its still operational. It is having enough issues that I might be interested in a new model. I am not particularly fond of the $200 bill for the new top of the line e-reader.

09-20-2014, 01:15 AM	#3
anesthezea Groupie Posts: 167 Karma: 2627964 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alabama, USA Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Clara 2e, Kobo Libra Colour, Kindle Paperwhite	/deleted/ Last edited by anesthezea; 09-23-2014 at 12:24 AM. Reason: deleted

09-20-2014, 11:03 AM	#9
GoSharks SQUIRREL!! Posts: 1,636 Karma: 8400000 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: California Device: K-Fire, PW2, PW3	@Josieb1- Your one of the ones I'd like an 'in hand review' from... (see, gadget-itis already setting in!) Last edited by GoSharks; 09-20-2014 at 04:04 PM.

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09-20-2014, 12:22 AM	#2
texasnightowl Guru Posts: 793 Karma: 2873645 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Texas Device: PW5, Oasis 3, K4B(NT), K3/KK	Mostly...the $200 price tag. Yes, I had an original Kindle which was $360 at the time, but that was ages ago. My sweet spot for an ereader is $80-125. Any more than that and you are easily in tablet territory. As for the 300 ppi...eh, whatever. I am so extremely nearsighted (my glasses prescription runs to -11 with 2.75 astigmatism on top) that as long as there is good contrast or I can crank up the font size, the better resolution doesn't do all that much for me. The hapatic page turn buttons DO interest me...I like physical page turn buttons (which is why I am still using a K3/Keyboard) but ... again ... $200. meh. I plan to watch for a flash deal on a Touch or a Paperwhite around Black Friday/Cyber Monday.

09-20-2014, 01:42 AM	#4
chanfm Enthusiast Posts: 49 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2014 Device: Kobo H2O, Kobo Glo HD, Kobo Arc, Kindle PW3	I will upgrade to the Voyage if I can get it at a lower price. I think $200 is a lot when PW2 at $120 is an already excellent device. I am not fond of the edge to edge bezel. I once had a Kobo Aura and was constantly trying to clean the smudges off the surface. I don't need page turning buttons. I love the 300 DPI and the fact that it is only 180g. I would love to get the Voyage for these reasons but the reasons are not worth $200. So.....I will stay happily with my excellent PW2 until a good deal for the Voyage comes along....

09-20-2014, 08:14 AM	#5
booklover6 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,545 Karma: 14008730 Join Date: May 2008 Location: PA (USA) Device: Kobo Clara, 2E, Libre 1, PW4, PW5, 2022 Kindle, Kobo Libre Colour	I didn't order due to the price, and the things I don't like about the kindle readers in general....poor font sizes and margins.

09-20-2014, 10:20 AM	#6
jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,030 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Where am I? Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature edition and a Samsung S24 Ultra	I hear you, we all need to look at the added technology and come to a decision of what the new technology is worth to us. Had the voyage tech been offered at the paper white price, I would have bought. I am still thinking about the matter now, I don't think that I am willing to pay $80 for the increased resolution, its text after all and how high a resolution and how high a resolution do I need for text, if it was graphics that I am looking at I can see that but this is text. Am I willing to pay $80 for the light sensor? I don't think so I'll pay an additional $15 max for that. So we need to decide how much are we willing to pay for the new technology.

09-20-2014, 10:59 AM	#8
Josieb1 Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,082 Karma: 18051062 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: UK Device: Kindle Scribe, Coloursoft, PW SE, Kindle 6, Kobo Libra Colour, Libra 2	I have ordered it. I want the size, the weight, the flush screen and the buttons (I know they are pressure points but they are buttons to me). It was a considered purchase it took me 24 hours to get over the price but at the end of the day I wanted it. I have a PW2 that my DH will have and I have sold my second kindle, a PW1 already for £70 so that goes towards the cost. I kept the cost down by going for the Belkin case which is £30, and it's the lightest case anyway.

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