Change case tool

ZoeRochelle · 04-01-2014, 01:34 PM

I searched for this information in the user manual for Calibre and here and had no luck in finding an answer. Hoping you all can help.

I am begrudgingly trying to get used to using Calibre instead of Sigil. I love Sigil! But as it is slowing going to be obsolete I figure its time to switch.

Question: Sigil has change case tools that are default icons in the toolbar. I can't find them anywhere in Calibre's editor, toolbar or not. Are they hiding or just not there (yet)?

theducks · 04-01-2014, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ZoeRochelle

I searched for this information in the user manual for Calibre and here and had no luck in finding an answer. Hoping you all can help.

I am begrudgingly trying to get used to using Calibre instead of Sigil. I love Sigil! But as it is slowing going to be obsolete I figure its time to switch.

Question: Sigil has change case tools that are default icons in the toolbar. I can't find them anywhere in Calibre's editor, toolbar or not. Are they hiding or just not there (yet)?

Probably (might be never, it is up to Kovid) , not there yet.
Remember, The Calibre editor is/started at V 1.x, Sigil was(0 .)7.4
I personally used 6 versions of Sigil. Each was a refinement

ZoeRochelle · 04-01-2014, 02:22 PM

I have used Sigil for years also, many versions! Thank you for the reply. I am not complaining, just wanted to be certain I wasn't overlooking it.

mrmikel · 04-01-2014, 05:06 PM

This is not something can be done in regex either as I understand it.

This has been a requested feature, but Kovid does things based on demand, his notion of importance and how hard it is to implement.

BetterRed · 04-01-2014, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmikel

This is not something can be done in regex either as I understand it.

This has been a requested feature, but Kovid does things based on demand, his notion of importance and how hard it is to implement.

Perhaps Kovid could post a sticky list of features that he has in mind to do, if and when he chooses to do. Be even better if each had a poll (yes please, no thanks, don't care) - but that might be hard to do at MB.

Suggest list be maintained in alphabetical sequence, lest anyone reads any other sort of order into the list

BR

kovidgoyal · 04-01-2014, 11:20 PM

I dislike posting lists of things I intend to do. I like having the freedom to work on what I want, when I want. A list of things I plan to do is too much like having a boss.

Divingduck · 04-02-2014, 05:59 AM

Correct. +1

If we do not take care, Kovid will get lost on "I need urgently this and that". He is implementing an editor with all kind of nice ribbons, making all bug corrections of the editor. Besides he is supporting the main Calibre and the forum.

My own wish list is surely big too but I like how he is implementing his ideas and how this will be altered in our discussions here for good solutions. I also like to take time and look what he will implement next time. Step by step.

He surely knows Sigil and most of the implemented functionalities. Sigil had a long time to grow. I am wondering all the time how fast it went up in Calibre and how good functions are running already w/o bigger problems. Guess this is most important for all of us.

This is not meant as criticism - more as hint that it need time to do things in the right way. I think this also holds good for Kovid magic hands.

mrmikel · 04-03-2014, 10:10 AM

Change to upper or lower case can be done by Phrase Express until it is available in the editor. Check the list under Macros.

ZoeRochelle · 04-03-2014, 11:10 AM

Thank you mrmikel, I will try that.

mrmikel · 04-03-2014, 11:33 AM

The macros allow you to wrap anything around selected text. I got it to do that for paragraphs, though Kovid has got it going to paragraphs in the next release. The only trick is that it writes to and pastes from the clipboard. I'd have to be careful not to have something I want on the clipboard blasted away by this trick. However, there are some clipboard tricks associated with Phrase Express I haven't gotten to yet. Maybe it wouldn't.

BetterRed · 04-03-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mrmikel

The only trick is that it writes to and pastes from the clipboard. I'd have to be careful not to have something I want on the clipboard blasted away by this trick.

@mrmikel - IIRC Phrase Express has a clipboard history function, that operates a LIFO list (stack) - cant recall if it's available by default, but pretty sure its there somewhere. IMO a clipboard extender is de rigueur, should be in OS.

BR

jackie_w · 04-04-2014, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

@mrmikel - IIRC Phrase Express has a clipboard history function, that operates a LIFO list (stack) - cant recall if it's available by default, but pretty sure its there somewhere. IMO a clipboard extender is de rigueur, should be in OS.

You do remember correctly. I'd just like to thank you guys for drawing my attention to Phrase Express, I think I'll get a lot of use out of it

BetterRed · 04-04-2014, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jackie_w

You do remember correctly. I'd just like to thank you guys for drawing my attention to Phrase Express, I think I'll get a lot of use out of it

I use Shelltoys (its a tool box) for clipboard stack and snippets. Not as fancy as Phrase Express but they get the job done, Shelltoys has been around in various guises since at least W2000, so its very familiar to me - legacy legacy, sins of the past, and all that

If you ever need a gadget to scrub the crud out of clipboard text (HTML, XML etc) then Clipboard Fusion does a good job.

I prefer 'use anywhere' tools to 'application specific tools'; then I can do the same thing whether I'm in Notepad, Word, Calibre Book Editor, Notepad++, Sigil, VS Editor etc etc.

BR

04-01-2014, 01:34 PM	#1
ZoeRochelle Sigil Addict Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2012 Device: Apple iPad Air 2	Change case tool I searched for this information in the user manual for Calibre and here and had no luck in finding an answer. Hoping you all can help. I am begrudgingly trying to get used to using Calibre instead of Sigil. I love Sigil! But as it is slowing going to be obsolete I figure its time to switch. Question: Sigil has change case tools that are default icons in the toolbar. I can't find them anywhere in Calibre's editor, toolbar or not. Are they hiding or just not there (yet)?

04-02-2014, 05:59 AM	#7
Divingduck Wizard Posts: 1,166 Karma: 1410083 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Germany Device: Sony PRS-650	Correct. +1 If we do not take care, Kovid will get lost on "I need urgently this and that". He is implementing an editor with all kind of nice ribbons, making all bug corrections of the editor. Besides he is supporting the main Calibre and the forum. My own wish list is surely big too but I like how he is implementing his ideas and how this will be altered in our discussions here for good solutions. I also like to take time and look what he will implement next time. Step by step. He surely knows Sigil and most of the implemented functionalities. Sigil had a long time to grow. I am wondering all the time how fast it went up in Calibre and how good functions are running already w/o bigger problems. Guess this is most important for all of us. This is not meant as criticism - more as hint that it need time to do things in the right way. I think this also holds good for Kovid magic hands. Last edited by Divingduck; 04-02-2014 at 06:02 AM.

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04-01-2014, 02:22 PM	#3
ZoeRochelle Sigil Addict Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2012 Device: Apple iPad Air 2	I have used Sigil for years also, many versions! Thank you for the reply. I am not complaining, just wanted to be certain I wasn't overlooking it.

04-01-2014, 05:06 PM	#4
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	This is not something can be done in regex either as I understand it. This has been a requested feature, but Kovid does things based on demand, his notion of importance and how hard it is to implement.

04-01-2014, 11:20 PM	#6
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,221 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I dislike posting lists of things I intend to do. I like having the freedom to work on what I want, when I want. A list of things I plan to do is too much like having a boss.

04-03-2014, 10:10 AM	#8
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	Change to upper or lower case can be done by Phrase Express until it is available in the editor. Check the list under Macros.

04-03-2014, 11:10 AM	#9
ZoeRochelle Sigil Addict Posts: 14 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2012 Device: Apple iPad Air 2	Thank you mrmikel, I will try that.

04-03-2014, 11:33 AM	#10
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	The macros allow you to wrap anything around selected text. I got it to do that for paragraphs, though Kovid has got it going to paragraphs in the next release. The only trick is that it writes to and pastes from the clipboard. I'd have to be careful not to have something I want on the clipboard blasted away by this trick. However, there are some clipboard tricks associated with Phrase Express I haven't gotten to yet. Maybe it wouldn't.

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