Download metadata - but write only empty fields?

shadowtree · 11-24-2013, 06:07 AM

As the title says, is it possible to download metadata but only set them on empty fields or the id? the luxury-version: is it possible to get a preview of the metadata with checkboxes to allow/prevent copy to the selected book?

i am really annoyed that title, author, tags and date gets overwritten all the time...

DoctorOhh · 11-24-2013, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by shadowtree

As the title says, is it possible to download metadata but only set them on empty fields or the id? the luxury-version: is it possible to get a preview of the metadata with checkboxes to allow/prevent copy to the selected book?

No.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowtree

i am really annoyed that title, author, tags and date gets overwritten all the time...

Configure the Metadata download to only update the fields you wish to be updated, see attached.

I never have the Title or Author downloaded and I always have the tags downloaded because I use the Goodreads metadata source plugin to download tags from Goodreads.

Adoby · 11-24-2013, 07:51 AM

You can configure what metadata to update. For instance not to update title and author.

Also if you download metadata for a single book you can preview and select what to use.

shadowtree · 11-24-2013, 01:04 PM

@DoctorOhh
ok, that won't override title/author anymore. may be my idea could be a feature in future

goodreads is also a good suggestion - but sadly it provides only english content...

@Adoby
i have changed my settings as you and DoctorOhh told me. but how do i preview the metadata download? if i click 'download metadata' the window pops up and show me matching entries from the configured providers. but if i click ok the selected entry will be applied without preview and without the chance to disable some of the content...

theducks · 11-24-2013, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowtree

@DoctorOhh
ok, that won't override title/author anymore. may be my idea could be a feature in future

goodreads is also a good suggestion - but sadly it provides only english content...

@Adoby
i have changed my settings as you and DoctorOhh told me. but how do i preview the metadata download? if i click 'download metadata' the window pops up and show me matching entries from the configured providers. but if i click ok the selected entry will be applied without preview and without the chance to disable some of the content...

I wanted your feature, but settled for disabling author and title

Use the Download Metadata (Crtl+D) But always use the 'Review Metadata'
Then use the field copy arrows to overwrite (to Keep the existing) the populated fields on the left (blanks get overwritten with values on the right)

You can hand edit only the Left side. This includes deleting bad data BUT There does not appear a way to stop the automatic copy to a blank
if the existing data is wrong .

You will see a Next Button if you used the Ctrl-D with multiple books which allows you to hand process each one

BetterRed · 11-24-2013, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Use the Download Metadata (Crtl+D) But always use the 'Review Metadata'
Then use the field copy arrows to overwrite (to Keep the existing) the populated fields on the left (blanks get overwritten with values on the right)

You can hand edit only the Left side. This includes deleting bad data BUT There does not appear a way to stop the automatic copy to a blank
if the existing data is wrong .

You will see a Next Button if you used the Ctrl-D with multiple books which allows you to hand process each one

- All of the people I have introduced to calibre find this 'variant' preferable to the one in Edit Metadata. They especially like that it allows them to view the book in the Review step.

To help overcome limitations, such as the one mentioned by theducks, it would be good if the Mark Book feature was available (button next to View Book), you could put a note as to why it's Marked at the top of Comments.

BR

speakingtohe · 11-24-2013, 04:01 PM

@theducks
I never noticed the review metadata button. That is handy dandy.

@shadowtree
If I want to download only a certain field(s) and I wanted it only for blank ones, I would select tags:false or comments:false etc. Then I would select all CTL+A, CTL+D, configure download and only have the appropriate box(s) checked. Takes less then 20 seconds to set up usually.

Helen

shadowtree · 11-25-2013, 10:23 AM

@theducks
your suggestion is pretty close to what i was searching for. two buttons in this window, 'copy all' and 'copy only if blank' would be nice^^ but why is CTRL+D/'download metadata and covers' so different from (my way) 'edit metadata' -> 'download metadata'...?

is it possible to always open the review-window (without being asked for)? is it possible to customize this window (why is the cover shown when i am in metadata-only-mode)?

theducks · 11-25-2013, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowtree

@theducks
your suggestion is pretty close to what i was searching for. two buttons in this window, 'copy all' and 'copy only if blank' would be nice^^ but why is CTRL+D/'download metadata and covers' so different from (my way) 'edit metadata' -> 'download metadata'...?

is it possible to always open the review-window (without being asked for)? is it possible to customize this window (why is the cover shown when i am in metadata-only-mode)?

Copy all would basically leave you with the original (right side)
Unless... (Only for ) 'copy all' did not copy a Blank from the right, which would wipe new data on the left.

to an option to always review

cybmole · 11-25-2013, 10:55 AM

I've always used edit metadata -> download metadata & I am NOT seeing a "review" button, does it not appear for this routing ???

theducks · 11-25-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by cybmole

I've always used edit metadata -> download metadata & I am NOT seeing a "review" button, does it not appear for this routing ???

The button is not part of that download Path

It is only from the MAIN screen Menu (ctrl+d)

Purple Lady · 11-25-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by theducks

The button is not part of that download Path

It is only from the MAIN screen Menu (ctrl+d)

I have to check this out when I get home. I've never seen this option and it sounds useful.

shadowtree · 11-25-2013, 11:49 AM

good to see that users that are apparently using this software for a longer time than me dont know this feature

@all

theducks · 11-25-2013, 11:52 AM

The difference I perceive between the Metadata edit DOWNLOAD is:
MDE download allows the choice (picking) of source returned results and covers
ctrl-d /with review allows the retention of existing fields, but only supplies the Primary(?) return.
ctrl-d w/review destination, does not include a pulldown of existing (Authors,series,tags) the is on the MDE form

Each has its use

cybmole · 11-25-2013, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by theducks

The button is not part of that download Path

It is only from the MAIN screen Menu (ctrl+d)

thanks - I will re-train myself - that's a better option than what I've been using

11-24-2013, 06:07 AM	#1
shadowtree Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2013 Device: Asus Memo Pad 10 FHD	Download metadata - but write only empty fields? As the title says, is it possible to download metadata but only set them on empty fields or the id? the luxury-version: is it possible to get a preview of the metadata with checkboxes to allow/prevent copy to the selected book? i am really annoyed that title, author, tags and date gets overwritten all the time...

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Adoby Handy Elephant Posts: 1,737 Karma: 26785684 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Southern Sweden, far out in the quiet woods Device: Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra	You can configure what metadata to update. For instance not to update title and author. Also if you download metadata for a single book you can preview and select what to use.

11-24-2013, 01:04 PM	#4
shadowtree Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2013 Device: Asus Memo Pad 10 FHD	@DoctorOhh ok, that won't override title/author anymore. may be my idea could be a feature in future goodreads is also a good suggestion - but sadly it provides only english content... @Adoby i have changed my settings as you and DoctorOhh told me. but how do i preview the metadata download? if i click 'download metadata' the window pops up and show me matching entries from the configured providers. but if i click ok the selected entry will be applied without preview and without the chance to disable some of the content...

11-24-2013, 04:01 PM	#7
speakingtohe Wizard Posts: 4,812 Karma: 26912940 Join Date: Apr 2010 Device: sony PRS-T1 and T3, Kobo Mini and Aura HD, Tablet	@theducks I never noticed the review metadata button. That is handy dandy. @shadowtree If I want to download only a certain field(s) and I wanted it only for blank ones, I would select tags:false or comments:false etc. Then I would select all CTL+A, CTL+D, configure download and only have the appropriate box(s) checked. Takes less then 20 seconds to set up usually. Helen

11-25-2013, 10:23 AM	#8
shadowtree Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2013 Device: Asus Memo Pad 10 FHD	@theducks your suggestion is pretty close to what i was searching for. two buttons in this window, 'copy all' and 'copy only if blank' would be nice^^ but why is CTRL+D/'download metadata and covers' so different from (my way) 'edit metadata' -> 'download metadata'...? is it possible to always open the review-window (without being asked for)? is it possible to customize this window (why is the cover shown when i am in metadata-only-mode)?

11-25-2013, 10:55 AM	#10
cybmole Wizard Posts: 3,720 Karma: 1759970 Join Date: Sep 2010 Device: none	I've always used edit metadata -> download metadata & I am NOT seeing a "review" button, does it not appear for this routing ???

11-25-2013, 11:49 AM	#13
shadowtree Junior Member Posts: 4 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2013 Device: Asus Memo Pad 10 FHD	good to see that users that are apparently using this software for a longer time than me dont know this feature @all

11-25-2013, 11:52 AM	#14
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,059 Karma: 60358908 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	The difference I perceive between the Metadata edit DOWNLOAD is: MDE download allows the choice (picking) of source returned results and covers ctrl-d /with review allows the retention of existing fields, but only supplies the Primary(?) return. ctrl-d w/review destination, does not include a pulldown of existing (Authors,series,tags) the is on the MDE form Each has its use

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