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Kindle Keyboard "Special Offers"
A long time ago I bought a keyboard 3g, because well, free unlimited 3g world wide is awesome. Unfortunately, this one has some problems, so I was looking at picking up another one (or two, since they are so useful).
I've noticed there are now these "special offers" and the opposite editions. The description says "Experimental web browsing is free.", "Unlike cell phones, with Kindle Keyboard 3G there are no monthly fees or annual contracts— Amazon pays for Kindle’s 3G wireless connectivity", and it also says of course that there is free 3g, world wide (where coverage permits). The ToS says "Amazon provides wireless connectivity free of charge to you for certain content shopping and downloading services on your Device. You may be charged a fee for wireless connectivity for your use of other wireless services on your Device, such as Web browsing and downloading of personal files, should you elect to use those services. We will maintain a list of current fees for such services in the Kindle Store. Amazon reserves the right to discontinue wireless connectivity at any time or to otherwise change the terms for wireless connectivity at any time, including, but not limited to (a) limiting the number and size of data files that may be transferred using wireless connectivity and (b) changing the amount and terms applicable for wireless connectivity charges. " I'm not at all familiar with these restrictions. Is this merely a scare tactic, or do then in practice charge you for "free" services, without warning, limit your connectivity, again, without warning, and just in general screw with people's connections? Are these new keyboard models subject to additional restrictions, and the store page has just not been updated? I'm sure if I used the 3g for browsing, tethering, file transfer, etc as anyone would use the original keyboard 3g for, I could point out the store page if questioned (as well as the overarching restrictions in the ToS). But in practice what is the situation? Do the newer keyboard 3gs have different model numbers that I can watch out for? |
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According to this thread, these exact terms of service have been there from the beginning. In other words: nothing's changed.
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So even the newest models have free unrestricted (in any way) 3g? |
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Kindle 3 (Keyboard), yes. But it is restricted to what it is originally intended for - namely usage from the device. "You agree you will use the wireless connectivity provided by Amazon only in connection with Services Amazon provides for the Device. You may not use the wireless connectivity for any other purpose."*
Kindle Touch and Paperwhite: no. You can browse Wikipedia only, and shop in the Amazon store. (*) See also: this. PS: There have also been reports that the data download limit is/may be capped to 50 MB when roaming. Search this forum for more info. Last edited by ixtab; 09-21-2013 at 02:39 PM. |
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Where are you actually quoting that from? It's not from the kindle keyboard ToS, nor from the Wireless Connectivity section of the Kindle ToU, nor from the store page; "Your Kindle Keyboard 3G may use wireless connectivity to make other services available", "Your Kindle uses wireless connectivity to allow you to shop for and download Digital Content." (where Digital Content is previously defined to include RSS, blogs, etc). The wording is a bit strange, because in all three of these other sources Amazon explicitly says that there are non-Amazon services that can be accessed using the Kindle. But perhaps it's just clumsy wording (or the aforementioned un-enforced "I warned you" clause). And yes I have read the stickies. That's disturbing, I bought my kindle internationally, and have used it in many countries without any kind of email or notification being sent to me. It also contradicts their advertising... Last edited by gorman; 09-21-2013 at 03:27 PM. |
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In the link below it is completely allowed, as the service is the connectivity itself (among other things) Quote:
I could not find it in the other sources, though I just copy pasted your quote. |
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Think of it: this is sold as an ebook reader with a complimentary wireless web browser, not as a "free 3G" modem.
![]() EOD for me. PS: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...deId=200506200 . It's right there. Last edited by ixtab; 09-21-2013 at 04:52 PM. |
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The 50MB limit is enforced btw as its happened to me when I used mine in an emergency.
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I see, thanks for the info. |
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The whole point is moot, since you can't buy a Kindle Keyboard from Amazon any more. You'd have to buy a used one from somewhere.
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It does make a difference for two reasons, 1 because they the ToS is purposefully very open ended, so it's nice to know things such as Josieb1 said, and 2 because I'm not familiar with these "special offers" models of kindles.
Though I'm not sure what point exactly you are referring to, since a lot of points have been made O_o |
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