Title changes not working

talia · 04-28-2013, 02:58 PM

I'm confused and I hope this is right place to put this. I'm using a Kindle Keyboard w/special offers wi-fi only that I've had for a little over a year. I always change the titles of books in a series to, the series name, series number, and then book title. I have never had a problem doing this in Calibre and then importing the books to my Kindle and having the titles show up the correct way, until yesterday. Yesterday half of titles I altered didn't show up right on my Kindle after I sent them over and I did everything the way I normally do.
I usually click on a book in my Calibre library, click on edit metadata and change what I need to that way. I'm using 0.9.28 today and the former update yesterday and this happens with both. I'm running Widows Vista. Any thoughts?

Gazella · 05-02-2013, 05:40 AM

Do you edit manually or do you download metadata and let Calibre do it automatically?

talia · 05-02-2013, 06:46 AM

I edit manually. It seems to only happen with mobi files and only as recently as the beginning of April. I had no problems changing the titles of mobi files manually before that.

alanHd · 05-02-2013, 02:20 PM

Are you talking about using a plugboard to add the series name to the title when you transfer the files to your kindle?

If you are be, aware that a plugboard will not work if the Mobi file contains the new KF8 format and the old mobi format.

talia · 05-02-2013, 04:43 PM

I don't know what a plugboard is.
I have been using 'add books' to add the books to calibre then highlighting the book I wish to change, right click and choose edit metadata individually then I change the title manually and add tags and save. This used to work for all book formats but now it doesn't work for mobi unless I have calibre convert the file to mobi anyway, then it transfers over to my Kindle.

alanHd · 05-02-2013, 05:18 PM

Ok at which point does the title not save right.

Is it when you edit the metadata and save in Calibre. or is it when you transfer the book.

If its when you transfer are you expecting to see the title as "Series - 1 - Book Title"

talia · 05-02-2013, 07:20 PM

The title looks fine in Calibre after I edit it, it's after I transfer the book to the Kindle the title goes back to what it was before I edited it.
ex.
original, Warm Bodies
edited, Warm Bodies - 1 - Warm Bodies
On the Kindle it goes back to the original.

BetterRed · 05-02-2013, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talia

... it's after I transfer the book to the Kindle the title goes back ...

@talia - Silly Question - how do you 'transfer' the book to the Kindle?

BR

talia · 05-02-2013, 10:06 PM

I hook my Kindle to the computer by a usb cord, click on the books I want transferred, and hit 'send to device'.

BetterRed · 05-02-2013, 10:42 PM

@talia - I just wanted to be sure you weren't using an obscure 'unapproved' transfer method. But Send to Device is an 'approved' way to do the transfer.

More Silly Questions

Is the book already on the Kindle with the 'original name' ?

If so then how can you be sure that the actual transfer 'worked', if it didn't then... the title wouldn't change;
And have you tried removing the 'original title' from the Kindle before doing the transfer

What happens if you change something else - like the cover?

What happens if the Kindle is full?

BR

PeterT · 05-02-2013, 10:59 PM

What format are the books?

BetterRed · 05-02-2013, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeterT

What format are the books?

@PeterT - In post #3 the OP says

Quote:

Originally Posted by talia

I edit manually. It seems to only happen with mobi files and only as recently as the beginning of April. I had no problems changing the titles of mobi files manually before that.

BR

talia · 05-02-2013, 11:36 PM

Is the book already on the Kindle with the 'original name' ?

If so then how can you be sure that the actual transfer 'worked', if it didn't then... the title wouldn't change;
And have you tried removing the 'original title' from the Kindle before doing the transfer

What happens if you change something else - like the cover?

What happens if the Kindle is full?

BR[/QUOTE]

BR,
-The books are not already on the Kindle. Some I get from the publishers web site in mobi format and some I get from Amazon. The ones from Amazon I download to my desktop Kindle reader.

-The books were never on my Kindle with the 'original name'.

-I do sometimes update the covers and again before April I had no problems but now sometimes it doesn't work or the book has two covers. That's a minor issue though because the Kindle Keyboard only has a list view.

-I just cleaned out all my read books so the Kindle is less than 2/3 full right now, it was getting kind of logy.

kovidgoyal · 05-02-2013, 11:49 PM

Your mobi files are probably joint mobi 6/KF8 files, for which metadata updating is not supported. Either convert them to azw3 or plain mobi, check under MOBI Output in the conversion dialog for mobi type and make sure it is "old". Convert and send to your Kindle.

And if you are resending previously sent files, delete the original from your Kindle, unplug the Kindle, let it realize the files have been deleted, reconnect and then send.

PeterT · 05-03-2013, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

@PeterT - In post #3 the OP says

BR

OOPS Missed that

04-28-2013, 02:58 PM	#1
talia Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: ipad, Kobo wifi, Kindle Keyboard	Title changes not working I'm confused and I hope this is right place to put this. I'm using a Kindle Keyboard w/special offers wi-fi only that I've had for a little over a year. I always change the titles of books in a series to, the series name, series number, and then book title. I have never had a problem doing this in Calibre and then importing the books to my Kindle and having the titles show up the correct way, until yesterday. Yesterday half of titles I altered didn't show up right on my Kindle after I sent them over and I did everything the way I normally do. I usually click on a book in my Calibre library, click on edit metadata and change what I need to that way. I'm using 0.9.28 today and the former update yesterday and this happens with both. I'm running Widows Vista. Any thoughts?

05-02-2013, 05:40 AM	#2
Gazella Wizard Posts: 1,705 Karma: 4619474 Join Date: Nov 2012 Device: Kindle Scribe, Kindle Paperwhite	Title changes not working Do you edit manually or do you download metadata and let Calibre do it automatically?

05-02-2013, 02:20 PM	#4
alanHd Addict Posts: 374 Karma: 1408579 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: UK Device: Kindle Touch, Ipod Touch, Ipad Air	Are you talking about using a plugboard to add the series name to the title when you transfer the files to your kindle? If you are be, aware that a plugboard will not work if the Mobi file contains the new KF8 format and the old mobi format. Last edited by alanHd; 05-02-2013 at 02:21 PM. Reason: Typo

05-02-2013, 10:42 PM	#10
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,718 Karma: 29711016 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@talia - I just wanted to be sure you weren't using an obscure 'unapproved' transfer method. But Send to Device is an 'approved' way to do the transfer. More Silly Questions Is the book already on the Kindle with the 'original name' ? If so then how can you be sure that the actual transfer 'worked', if it didn't then... the title wouldn't change; And have you tried removing the 'original title' from the Kindle before doing the transfer What happens if you change something else - like the cover? What happens if the Kindle is full? BR

05-02-2013, 11:36 PM	#13
talia Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: ipad, Kobo wifi, Kindle Keyboard	Is the book already on the Kindle with the 'original name' ? If so then how can you be sure that the actual transfer 'worked', if it didn't then... the title wouldn't change; And have you tried removing the 'original title' from the Kindle before doing the transfer What happens if you change something else - like the cover? What happens if the Kindle is full? BR[/QUOTE] BR, -The books are not already on the Kindle. Some I get from the publishers web site in mobi format and some I get from Amazon. The ones from Amazon I download to my desktop Kindle reader. -The books were never on my Kindle with the 'original name'. -I do sometimes update the covers and again before April I had no problems but now sometimes it doesn't work or the book has two covers. That's a minor issue though because the Kindle Keyboard only has a list view. -I just cleaned out all my read books so the Kindle is less than 2/3 full right now, it was getting kind of logy.

05-02-2013, 06:46 AM	#3
talia Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: ipad, Kobo wifi, Kindle Keyboard	I edit manually. It seems to only happen with mobi files and only as recently as the beginning of April. I had no problems changing the titles of mobi files manually before that.

05-02-2013, 04:43 PM	#5
talia Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: ipad, Kobo wifi, Kindle Keyboard	I don't know what a plugboard is. I have been using 'add books' to add the books to calibre then highlighting the book I wish to change, right click and choose edit metadata individually then I change the title manually and add tags and save. This used to work for all book formats but now it doesn't work for mobi unless I have calibre convert the file to mobi anyway, then it transfers over to my Kindle.

05-02-2013, 05:18 PM	#6
alanHd Addict Posts: 374 Karma: 1408579 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: UK Device: Kindle Touch, Ipod Touch, Ipad Air	Ok at which point does the title not save right. Is it when you edit the metadata and save in Calibre. or is it when you transfer the book. If its when you transfer are you expecting to see the title as "Series - 1 - Book Title"

05-02-2013, 07:20 PM	#7
talia Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: ipad, Kobo wifi, Kindle Keyboard	The title looks fine in Calibre after I edit it, it's after I transfer the book to the Kindle the title goes back to what it was before I edited it. ex. original, Warm Bodies edited, Warm Bodies - 1 - Warm Bodies On the Kindle it goes back to the original.

05-02-2013, 10:06 PM	#9
talia Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2011 Device: ipad, Kobo wifi, Kindle Keyboard	I hook my Kindle to the computer by a usb cord, click on the books I want transferred, and hit 'send to device'.

05-02-2013, 10:59 PM	#11
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,505 Karma: 78910112 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	What format are the books?

05-02-2013, 11:49 PM	#14
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,345 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Your mobi files are probably joint mobi 6/KF8 files, for which metadata updating is not supported. Either convert them to azw3 or plain mobi, check under MOBI Output in the conversion dialog for mobi type and make sure it is "old". Convert and send to your Kindle. And if you are resending previously sent files, delete the original from your Kindle, unplug the Kindle, let it realize the files have been deleted, reconnect and then send.

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