360 Question regarding fonts, italics and fbreader180 app?

Guns4Hire · 12-17-2011, 06:50 PM

I recently changed fonts on my PB360. I went from Droid to LexiaDaMa and I had spotted a misspelled word in the current epub that I was reading. So when I opened it up in Sigil I noticed the sentence below that was in italics. So when I went back to reading the epub I noticed that the sentence that was supposed to be in italics...wasn't in italics. So I reloaded Droid and it didn't have the sentence in italics either. I do have all 4 LexiaDaMa fonts loaded on the device. I am using the custom fbreader180 app or whatever its called.

So my question is shouldn't the PB360 display words that are in italics. And if so then what am I doing wrong? And if not then why not? Also does that mean that words that are in bold don't show up either? I searched through the PB forum but didn't spot anything that gave me an answer either way.

Thanks,

troll05 · 12-18-2011, 03:29 AM

FBreader pretty much ignores styles, try CoolReader3 or Adobe viewer

J.C. · 12-18-2011, 11:43 AM

Are you sure about that troll05 ? I know FBreader ignores flow and format elements, but I don't believe it ignores text formats such as bold/italics.
I use the default FBreader almost exclusively to read e-books in epub format and I recall seeing bold and italic formated text.
The font I'm using BTW is DejaVuSans.

JustForFun · 12-18-2011, 01:41 PM

IIRC, FBReader180 supports <b>, <i>, <strong> and <em>.

Basic support for styling with CSS styles was only added to the latest version from SciFiFan (FBReader180h). It supports font-weight:bold and font-style:italic. I don't know if these changes were integrated into the better known version of FBReader180 from GrayNM.

Edit:
SciFiFans version: http://pbook.s3.amazonaws.com/fbreader_180h.zip (Direct download, I'm not aware of a home page.)
GrayNMs version: http://code.google.com/p/fbreader-pockebook/

Guns4Hire · 12-18-2011, 01:56 PM

From what I could tell from reading the h version from scififan is at least 5 months older than graynm`s version. So these two guys have disappeared from the scene and we have no new developments since the beginning off 2011? That is too bad.

JustForFun · 12-18-2011, 01:58 PM

SciFiFan seems to be not active here, GraNM was and maybe is.

Maybe FBReader in its current state works for them, so the don't see a need to develop it further. The base version of FBreader used on PocketBooks is rather old and it would be a lot of work to add better styling support to it. Newer versions of FBReader have better styling support, but they were never adapted to the PocketBooks. There were attempts but they didn't work out.

Perhaps you should try the CoolReader port, as it is supposed to have better styling support.

Guns4Hire · 12-18-2011, 02:48 PM

Im going to look into coolreader but I really like fbreader just wish there was a little more support. Its all good. :}

paola · 12-18-2011, 03:19 PM

I always clean up my files with Calibre, and get the fonts I want in the conversion - and I am pretty sure I have not have any problems with italics or bold not showing, at least that I can tell. The FBreader version I have is with page turns - Coolreader's latest version has also got wrist page turn now.
GrayNM is still active in this forum, though I guess the easiest is to send him a private message.

Guns4Hire · 12-19-2011, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paola

I always clean up my files with Calibre, and get the fonts I want in the conversion - and I am pretty sure I have not have any problems with italics or bold not showing, at least that I can tell. The FBreader version I have is with page turns - Coolreader's latest version has also got wrist page turn now.
GrayNM is still active in this forum, though I guess the easiest is to send him a private message.

I use calibre in the same manner. And Im using fbreader180 11.3 from graynm and italics definitely arent working unless its in a header. If its in regular text (as in just paragraph) italics and bold do not work. Are you using graynm's version of fbreader (11.3) or you using scififans version (fbreader180 h)?

paola · 12-19-2011, 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guns4Hire

I use calibre in the same manner. And Im using fbreader180 11.3 from graynm and italics definitely arent working unless its in a header. If its in regular text (as in just paragraph) italics and bold do not work. Are you using graynm's version of fbreader (11.3) or you using scififans version (fbreader180 h)?

actually you are right, I've got to take it back: I double checked and in fact I am using Coolreader with wrist page turns. I had not realised, because fo the wrist page turn and the fact that I do not really take notes (the coolreader notes interface is very recognisable) and no longer need to meddle with settings. So with Coolreader I can see bold and italics, but with FBreader you are right, I cannot see them either. But I'll look into it more tonight, and in the meantime apologies for the confusion!

Guns4Hire · 12-19-2011, 04:25 PM

No worries

just trying to get my head around this. Im going to check out coolreader eventually. Its been a long time since I messed with my PB360 like this though Ill have to try and remember what to do with the coolreader files lol.

Guns4Hire · 12-23-2011, 05:52 AM

So I installed coolreader and played around with it. And while it was nice to have italics and bold in areas where it had been coded for it...it just doesn't stack up to fbreader180. I've been too spoiled by fbreader180 so I will just have to do without that feature.

Maybe someday graynm will comeback and finish/continue working on it.

JustForFun · 12-23-2011, 10:06 AM

Looking at a Calibre generated EPub it seems it uses CSS styles for bold and italics, so you won't see bold or italics in paragraphs with FBReader. Headers have an own "style" setting in FBReader, that's why you see bold and/or italics there.

@Guns4Hire: Did you try fbreader180h? Looking at the last changes in GrayNMs repository there weren't any big new features or bugfixes. SciFiFans version is based on version 0.9.x, don't remember which particulary.
Out of interest, what are the features of FBReader you miss in CoolReader?

Guns4Hire · 12-23-2011, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustForFun

@Guns4Hire: Did you try fbreader180h? Looking at the last changes in GrayNMs repository there weren't any big new features or bugfixes. SciFiFans version is based on version 0.9.x, don't remember which particulary.
Out of interest, what are the features of FBReader you miss in CoolReader?

I haven't tried out the h version yet. But I will now since you mention the above.

Nothing I can really point to really. Just that fbr180 seems way more polished and looks way better and I guess I'm used to it.

12-17-2011, 06:50 PM	#1
Guns4Hire Reading...Since 1970 Posts: 610 Karma: 7819 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nova Air C, Nova Pro, LifebookMars, BoyueT62+ Glowlight, NST, PB360	Question regarding fonts, italics and fbreader180 app? I recently changed fonts on my PB360. I went from Droid to LexiaDaMa and I had spotted a misspelled word in the current epub that I was reading. So when I opened it up in Sigil I noticed the sentence below that was in italics. So when I went back to reading the epub I noticed that the sentence that was supposed to be in italics...wasn't in italics. So I reloaded Droid and it didn't have the sentence in italics either. I do have all 4 LexiaDaMa fonts loaded on the device. I am using the custom fbreader180 app or whatever its called. So my question is shouldn't the PB360 display words that are in italics. And if so then what am I doing wrong? And if not then why not? Also does that mean that words that are in bold don't show up either? I searched through the PB forum but didn't spot anything that gave me an answer either way. Thanks,

12-18-2011, 01:41 PM	#4
JustForFun Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 752 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: PB360	IIRC, FBReader180 supports <b>, <i>, <strong> and <em>. Basic support for styling with CSS styles was only added to the latest version from SciFiFan (FBReader180h). It supports font-weight:bold and font-style:italic. I don't know if these changes were integrated into the better known version of FBReader180 from GrayNM. Edit: SciFiFans version: http://pbook.s3.amazonaws.com/fbreader_180h.zip (Direct download, I'm not aware of a home page.) GrayNMs version: http://code.google.com/p/fbreader-pockebook/ Last edited by JustForFun; 12-18-2011 at 01:57 PM. Reason: added links

12-18-2011, 01:56 PM	#5
Guns4Hire Reading...Since 1970 Posts: 610 Karma: 7819 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nova Air C, Nova Pro, LifebookMars, BoyueT62+ Glowlight, NST, PB360	From what I could tell from reading the h version from scififan is at least 5 months older than graynm`s version. So these two guys have disappeared from the scene and we have no new developments since the beginning off 2011? That is too bad. Last edited by Guns4Hire; 12-18-2011 at 02:06 PM.

12-18-2011, 01:58 PM	#6
JustForFun Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 752 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: PB360	SciFiFan seems to be not active here, GraNM was and maybe is. Maybe FBReader in its current state works for them, so the don't see a need to develop it further. The base version of FBreader used on PocketBooks is rather old and it would be a lot of work to add better styling support to it. Newer versions of FBReader have better styling support, but they were never adapted to the PocketBooks. There were attempts but they didn't work out. Perhaps you should try the CoolReader port, as it is supposed to have better styling support. Last edited by JustForFun; 12-18-2011 at 02:35 PM.

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12-18-2011, 03:29 AM	#2
troll05 Harmless idiot Posts: 3,411 Karma: 2154829 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Zuhause Device: PB622, Nexus7, Sony PRS 350, Tolino und nur noch wenig toter Baum:(	FBreader pretty much ignores styles, try CoolReader3 or Adobe viewer

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12-18-2011, 02:48 PM	#7
Guns4Hire Reading...Since 1970 Posts: 610 Karma: 7819 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nova Air C, Nova Pro, LifebookMars, BoyueT62+ Glowlight, NST, PB360	Im going to look into coolreader but I really like fbreader just wish there was a little more support. Its all good. :}

12-18-2011, 03:19 PM	#8
paola Wizard Posts: 2,840 Karma: 5843878 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Device: Pocketbook Pro 903, (beloved Pocketbook 360 RIP), Kobo Mini, Kobo Aura	I always clean up my files with Calibre, and get the fonts I want in the conversion - and I am pretty sure I have not have any problems with italics or bold not showing, at least that I can tell. The FBreader version I have is with page turns - Coolreader's latest version has also got wrist page turn now. GrayNM is still active in this forum, though I guess the easiest is to send him a private message.

12-19-2011, 04:25 PM	#11
Guns4Hire Reading...Since 1970 Posts: 610 Karma: 7819 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nova Air C, Nova Pro, LifebookMars, BoyueT62+ Glowlight, NST, PB360	No worries just trying to get my head around this. Im going to check out coolreader eventually. Its been a long time since I messed with my PB360 like this though Ill have to try and remember what to do with the coolreader files lol.

12-23-2011, 05:52 AM	#12
Guns4Hire Reading...Since 1970 Posts: 610 Karma: 7819 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nova Air C, Nova Pro, LifebookMars, BoyueT62+ Glowlight, NST, PB360	So I installed coolreader and played around with it. And while it was nice to have italics and bold in areas where it had been coded for it...it just doesn't stack up to fbreader180. I've been too spoiled by fbreader180 so I will just have to do without that feature. Maybe someday graynm will comeback and finish/continue working on it.

12-23-2011, 10:06 AM	#13
JustForFun Enthusiast Posts: 30 Karma: 752 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: PB360	Looking at a Calibre generated EPub it seems it uses CSS styles for bold and italics, so you won't see bold or italics in paragraphs with FBReader. Headers have an own "style" setting in FBReader, that's why you see bold and/or italics there. @Guns4Hire: Did you try fbreader180h? Looking at the last changes in GrayNMs repository there weren't any big new features or bugfixes. SciFiFans version is based on version 0.9.x, don't remember which particulary. Out of interest, what are the features of FBReader you miss in CoolReader?

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