|  10-22-2011, 09:08 AM | #1 | 
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				Authors as Entrepreneurs
			 
			
			We tend to think of authors as fairly reclusive characters. The word ‘bookish’ summons up images of fairly self-absorbed, introverted characters, with a slight detachment from the real world. And from the authors I have met, I would say that is, in the most, a fairly accurate characterisation. Some were larger than life – Dickens, perhaps, and certainly Hemmingway – but they also led largely artistic careers.  Now, however, something is changing. Authors are becoming entrepreneurs. The books industry has changed. Even when you are published by one of the big houses – Headline in my case – you still need to do a lot of marketing of yourself to make sure your book finds an audience. You need to build a website, get on Twitter, and give talks. There is no point in expecting the publisher to do it all for you. And, more and more authors are turning to Kindle as well. They are bringing out their own books, and promoting then themselves, either entirely on their own, or in conjunction with traditionally published books. They are in effect setting up small businesses. One consequence, however, is that the books we all read will be increasingly produced by people who are as much entrepreneurs as writers. That may well not be a bad thing. A lot of fiction in the last half-century has been very inward-looking. It doesn’t have much of the energy and involvement in the world of Victorian fiction. But it certainly means that the types of books that get written are going to be very different. - Matt Lynn -[Promotional link removed - MODERATOR] Last edited by Dr. Drib; 10-22-2011 at 11:39 AM. | 
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|  10-22-2011, 08:50 PM | #2 | 
| Zealot            Posts: 140 Karma: 379182 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Charleston, SC Device: Kindle for PC | 
			
			I'd say it's a change for the better.  But then again, I like being a creative business person.
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|  10-23-2011, 07:31 AM | #3 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 3,418 Karma: 35207650 Join Date: Jun 2011 Device: iPad | 
			
			While it is currently true for me, I hate it personally. I rather pay someone to do the business stuff and let me just write even if it means less cash in my pocket. I love to write, thats what I want to do. I have worked sales (both retail and otherwise) and I am not very good at it nor do I enjoy it.
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|  10-23-2011, 02:59 PM | #4 | 
| Guru            Posts: 915 Karma: 3537194 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Kobo, Kindle 3, Paperwhite | 
			
			I don't mind promoting, especially when it's hanging around ebook forums and spouting opinions, which is what I'd be doing anyway. But it does seem wrong to not be writing.
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|  10-24-2011, 12:57 PM | #5 | 
| Grand Sorcerer            Posts: 8,478 Karma: 5171130 Join Date: Jan 2006 Device: none | 
			
			It seems to work better for some than others; my efforts at "hanging about and giving opinions" haven't resulted in an upsurge of interest in my books, or in significant sales.  I'm also not great at promotion, and with a day job and a tight budget, don't have a lot of time or money to throw at the problem.
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|  10-24-2011, 01:34 PM | #6 | 
| Sci-Fi Author            Posts: 1,158 Karma: 14743509 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Michigan Device: PC (Calibre) | 
			
			mattlynn: You are correct.  Today the market is a lot different than before.  But at the same time our world is far more interconnected.  So ignoring the social media and self promotion aspects is death to an author, regardless if they're with a big house, or self published.  Authors aren't seen as being incredible people propped up on gilded pedestals anymore.  People see them as average joes with a rather exceptional talent.  So they're no longer "unreachable" like they used to be, thus you as the author are expected to come down to the readers level and interact directly with them.  Trust me, I've been trying to beat that fact into a lot of new author's heads, but not enough seem to be getting the picture.   As for me, I'm finding that 3rd party marketing seems to work better for me, as I'm not the hands on marketing type. Probably because I've had issues with social interaction for years. Being a geeky introvert it makes reaching out to potential readers rather difficult for someone like myself.   | 
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|  10-26-2011, 09:52 AM | #7 | |
| I write stories.            Posts: 700 Karma: 16437432 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Northern Germany Device: kindle | Quote: 
 Amazon has lowered the entry barriers for self-publishers and the internet has provided far more sense of community than they've ever had before, but authors acting as entrepreneurs is most definitely not a new occurance. | |
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|  10-27-2011, 05:48 AM | #8 | 
| Zealot            Posts: 126 Karma: 415116 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Frederick MD Device: Nook | 
			
			I decided to self-publish after reading several agent and publisher blogs which stated that as a small author I would be expected to do my own marketing. Well, geez, if that's the case, then why was I bothering looking for a publisher when I could just use Smashwords and KDP? Whatever skills I have as a writer, I have even less as a marketer. Still, one of my four self-published e-books does pretty well, and I get some sales of the other e-books every month. The key seems to be writing something people might actually want to read. And Amazon does a good job of helping people find that book once it starts to sell. I'm writing a novella at the moment. Talk about marketing hell. Too short for a novel; too long for a short story. Nobody wants to deal with them. Oy! But you have to write what you have to write, and this is a story I believe in, so I'll put it out there and let it join all the other teardrops in the ocean. | 
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|  10-27-2011, 07:21 AM | #9 | 
| Wizard            Posts: 2,409 Karma: 4132096 Join Date: Sep 2008 Device: Kindle Paperwhite/iOS Kindle App | 
			
			This has always been kind of a weak argument to me. ALL jobs have drudge parts. If it's a hobby and you are just doing it for fun, okay, but if it's a job, then the drudge parts are just part of the whole process. I am a great teacher, but I dislike playground duty, for instance. I'd rather be teaching. And yet, it's part of the job so when my turn comes up, I do it. To say you prefer the writing part is totally fair, but to say that it seems 'wrong' to do anything but purely write is, to me, disingenuous. The marketing is the drudge work. Every career has it.
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|  10-27-2011, 07:50 AM | #10 | ||
| Autism Spectrum Disorder            Posts: 1,212 Karma: 6244877 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Coastal Texas Device: Android Phone | Quote: 
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 I wonder how the original circle of Cthulhu Mythos writers would have done if they'd had access to the modern internet. | ||
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|  10-27-2011, 08:13 AM | #11 | 
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|  10-31-2011, 07:58 PM | #12 | |
| occasional author            Posts: 2,315 Karma: 2064403292 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Wandering God's glorious hills, valleys and plains. Device: A Franklin BI (before Internet) was the first.  I still have it. | Quote: 
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|  10-31-2011, 09:34 PM | #13 | |
| occasional author            Posts: 2,315 Karma: 2064403292 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Wandering God's glorious hills, valleys and plains. Device: A Franklin BI (before Internet) was the first.  I still have it. | Quote: 
 Essentially the site should have a little history of yourself, a little history on how how the books started, and better still some unknown facts and meanings related to your work. You can talk about your plans for the future. Even more importantly, you can select passages from your work that you think will interest people and attract buyers. If you take questions or comments be careful if it is readable by the public. You should learn to moderate any messages or questions left at the beginning. Try to collect a list of email or twit addresses so you can send news out to your readers. Don't worry about traffic. It may come or not, but the point is you will be ready if people are interested. A domain name can be as little as 10 to $12 a year. A minimal type website can be free provided by many companies. I got my start over at Yahoo for free. They will provide simple tools to build it. Later I moved up, so to speak. So you can start with what I consider the essentials for $12 per year and a little work, or even $0 per year if you leave off the domain name. I suggest you look at 1and1 for rates if you decide to buy stuff. | |
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|  10-31-2011, 10:04 PM | #14 | |
| occasional author            Posts: 2,315 Karma: 2064403292 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Wandering God's glorious hills, valleys and plains. Device: A Franklin BI (before Internet) was the first.  I still have it. | Quote: 
 The Edition of Wordsworth I have has "Shropshire Lad," "More Poems," "Last Poems," "Additional Poems." Some of these were brought to light after Housman's death by his brother Laurence. I will share a bit of Houseman, #54, ...Lad" "With rue my heart is laden for golden friends I had, For many a rose-lipt maiden And many a lightfoot lad By brooks too broad for leaping The lightfoot boys are laid; The rose-lipt girls are sleeping In fields where roses fade." I marvel at the feelings that come forth reading such. Last edited by frahse; 11-02-2011 at 03:02 AM. | |
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|  10-31-2011, 10:20 PM | #15 | |
| occasional author            Posts: 2,315 Karma: 2064403292 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Wandering God's glorious hills, valleys and plains. Device: A Franklin BI (before Internet) was the first.  I still have it. | Quote: 
 The new movie "Captain America" is set up to sell distinctive action figures and neat war vehicles. | |
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