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How publishers are losing the Pokemon People
(Middle-of-the-night post.)
So I'm planning to put my house on the market and move, and I'm looking at the 6 floor-to-ceiling bookcases that are filled to the brim and thinking: No. Just no. I've lugged those books through a dozen moves already and my back isn't getting any stronger. So it's off to the Kindle Watch at eReader IQ because dear-god-am-I-addicted-to-those-email-alerts. And I'm actually pleased and surprised to see that probably about 60% of my library is available in Kindle edition. Maybe a little more. It's definitely a MAJOR improvement from earlier in the year when the numbers were closer to 30%. But I was amused/annoyed to see that most of the non-fiction books are priced in the $10-and-up range and most of the fiction books are priced in the $8-and-up range. And this is for books that are (a) several years old, (b) available for extremely cheap used prices, and (c) most of which I bought used in the first place. The irony is that I've got enough books now that I actually feel less attached to my paper library. I'll re-buy some of them based on price and how dear the book is to me, and I'll cut and scan a few that aren't available, but all those books that I read once and don't need to read again? No way am I paying $12 a pop for those. And the funny thing is, if they were between $1-5, I know myself enough to know that I *would* pay. Because I'm definitely a Pokemon person and I've got to catch them all. Once I read a book, I usually develop an irrational fear that I MIGHT WANT TO READ IT AGAIN AND WHAT IF IT'S GONE. (This actually has happened -- there are several books from my childhood that I want to read but can't find or remember the name of. I haunt the book finding sites regularly.) But between my reviewing-everything-I-read policy (which means I can find the book again by checking through my reviewing records) and the delicious glut of new ebooks in my To Read pile, I'm becoming less attached to my paper books -- enough so that I'm not going to re-buy them if they're more than $6 a pop. My Pokemon addiction has been thwarted by the high prices. I realize that publishers are still fiddling around trying to find pricing sweet spots, and this is NOT a grumble-agency-publishers post. But it is an open post to point out that when I've already spent money on a book (and money that probably didn't reach you because I've been buying at used book stores for years), then I'll only re-buy the ebook at a reasonably low price. And if your book has been out for a few years and only now making the ebook rounds, you might want to think about snagging repeat buyers. Ironically, my search tonight seemed to indicate that the NEWER books were priced lower than the OLDER ones. Very odd. Last edited by anamardoll; 09-04-2011 at 02:05 AM. |
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Yeah, I gotta agree.
There was a recent post about how much of L. Sprague de Camp's works are going to finally be available as e-books. https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=148527 The price? $9.99 each. No thanks. I'm a big fan of his and probably have half of them in paperback. And I'd love to get the other half. But not for $10 a pop, especially as these books were typically not very long (200 pages at most). Ditto for another series of books I loved as a kid - The Pelbar Cycle. I had them all in paperback but Kindle edition? $9.99. In both cases, the authors are long dead. I have to think that really plays a role. Whatever relative owns the rights doesn't really care, so they sell the rights to greedy, unscrupulous companies... |
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I own pretty much every Xanth book and despite not liking the series that much aymore, I'd buy the 30 or so books again... but not at $8 a pop! Ha.
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Sometimes I wonder if the people in the publishing business ever took economics 101.
Maybe they slept their way through it? Do they not understand such a simple concept as price elasticity? They clearly haven't a clue how to maximize back catalog value. L. Sprague DeCamp? Very good writer. Very prolific. His catalog has quite a few excellent works. It also has its share of potboilers. Which just about screams: "Bundle!" Instead of pricing each book as if it were some precious jewel or collectible, they should be bundling, omnibusing, and grab-bagging the heck out of his catalog, trying to maximize the return from the full catalog. As is, his top 5 or 6 works will sell decently among folks who already know of him, the rest might sell to afluent completists, and none will get much traction among those that aren't already familiar with his place in SF history. Contrast that with how BAEN handles the works of Laumer, Schmitz, Anderson, Pournelle, Heinlein, Anvil etc. Pournelle's back catalog, for example, was intro'ed as a limited-time bundle at a modest but reasonable price, then sold unbundled at their normal reasonable pricing. The others are being slowly added to the Webscription store, get added to the monthly bundles where possibly unfamilar readers can be exposed to their works, and they even slip in a volume or two into the Free Library. Building awareness of the author and his works takes precedence over squeezing every last drop of blood from each buyer; setting the stage for followup sales over time matters more than "preserving perceived value". It's still (relatively) early in the ebook evolution but you would think that by now more publishers would understand that midlist and (especially) backlist ebooks are long-term full-catalog plays. There is more money to be made by "selling" the L. Sprague DeCamp "brand" as a source of books that range from amusing to brilliant that there is from milking LEST DARKNESS FALL for every last penny. Short-term, quarter-by-quarter thinking *might* be vaguely justifiable in the world of batch-printed pbooks, but in the world of ebooks it is just a surefire way to send customers looking elsewhere. Last edited by fjtorres; 09-04-2011 at 09:13 AM. |
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Oh, how I agree. Pre Agency I bought like mad, even books I already had or books I didn't keep because they were only so-so, just so I could have all of an author's works or for nostalgia's sake. There is a limit to how much I'll pay for nostalgia or completeness though and $7 is it's upper limit. With more reasonable prices I would throw my budget to the winds and end up spending a lot more overall.
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Do you know how much they paid for the rights to DeKamp's works? How much they paid to convert them? How many sales they will have? What sort of elasticity there is. Economics *does not mean* that you make the most money by selling the highest volume...that is not always the case. Sometimes you make more money by charging more and selling less. I think the publishers know this. And of course they can lower the price later, which makes sure that they get full price...and full profit... from people willing to pay it...but still make some profit from people who are willing to wait and pay less later. Let's say it cost the publishers $5,000 (but you can use any number) to buy the rights to and prepare a book to be sold as an e-book. If you sell the book at $10 and sell 1,000 copies, you've made $10,000. Subtracting your $5,000 fixed cost, you have a gross profit of $5,000. Let's say you charge instead $3, and as a result, sales are triple. You sell 3,000 books at $3 each, for a total of $9,000. Subtract your costs and you have a gross profit of $4,000. Economics 101 suggests that you are better off pricing the book higher. But of course to find the optimum price, you need to know how much sales will increase when you drop the price. If they increase by 4 times, you are better off selling at a lower price. If they don't increase at all, or increase by less than ~70%, you will *lose* money. 1500 sales x $3 = $4500, less $5,000 cost means a loss of $500. So how can a publisher maximize total profits without being omniscient? It's not that hard to figure out. (I'll use the original number from the example, but any will do). First, the publisher offers the book for sale at $10, and sells 1,000. This nets $10,000. Later, the publisher drops the price to $6. Let's say he sells another 1,000 copies. This nets an additional $6,000. Finally, the publisher drops the price to $3, selling another 1,000 copies and netting an additional $3,000. This leaves a total net of $19,000. Subtract the $5,000 cost and you have a gross profit of $14,000. This approach is *far better* than simply pricing the book at $3 to begin with, since some of the people who would pay $3 for the book would also pay much more. This approach is also better than just charging $10 for the book, since that leaves on the table the sales that could be made to people who would pay less than $10 for the book. Not only is this approach the best approach economically; it is *also* the approach that the publishers seem to be taking. I think they did, in fact, pay attention in Econ. 101. Quote:
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Baen is not the Apple, Google, or MS of the publishing world; it is a tiny niche publisher that puts out around 80 titles or so per year. (Random House puts out 80,000 titles per year in the US). There's no reason to assume that Baen is significantly more profitable than other publishers - or more profitable at all. The fact that other publishers don't copy Baen doesn't suggest that they are stupid; it suggests that what Baen does can't really be copied. Which is probably true - Baen set up a website very early and accustomed people to going there to buy certain books. This is not really scalable to other publishers since it would result in 1000's of separate websites. Plus, having their own website also means that Baen doesn't have to pay Amazon/Apple/B&N etc. 30% from each sale. |
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Actually, when it comes to the likes of DeCamp, Baen *is* the proper comparable as they are in the exact same niche as DelRey and Tor and the other BPH-owned SF houses.
Likewise, I took pains to limit my examples to their tactics promoting the back catalogs of DeCamp peers from the 40's-60's, tactics that are readily available to any publisher that chooses to use them, just as they used to practice direct mail order sales in the 70's and 80's. The used to publish newsletters and sell both bundles and blind grab-bag bundles, too. Finally price elasticity was in fact part of economics 101 when I took it. |
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I went through something similar in audio over 20 years ago. I would have bought hundreds of CDs to replace LPs, but the price was just way too high. I was willing to wait a few years for the production costs to come down and for pent up demand to taper, but by the time AOL was flooding mailboxes with s/w CD-ROMs, CD recorders were cheap, and blank CDs almost free, audio CD prices were still sky high.
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