Not too sure what is happening here ...

GeoffC · 05-18-2011, 07:11 AM

Downloaded my first kindle file into Calibre 0.7.56 - and was able to view it.

Then made a request for it to be converted into mobi - to add cover etc. Process failed because it couldn't initialise a certain plugin (me thought if the book could be viewed that it wasn't drm'ed).

Since that occasion I have been unable to view using the Calibre viewer, every time I hit the 'view' icon, Calibre indicates it is trying to add the book - then complains I already have a copy in the database ..... .

Downloaded and installed 0.8.1. ... but this has not changed the action that 'view' wants to add a book .....

GeoffC · 05-18-2011, 09:15 AM

Latest :

Have deleted "kindle for PC" - it was taking over !

The view option now tells me the azw file is not recognised, so at least my duplicate downloading has stopped ....

kovidgoyal · 05-18-2011, 10:28 AM

You need to fix your plugin, and all your problems will disappear.

Pookeysgirl · 05-18-2011, 11:07 AM

Hi Geoff,

I had a similar issue about a month ago. I had to uninstall the plug-in and re-install it after downloading it again from the website. Not sure why or how it got messed up in the first place, but it fixed the problem :

:

GeoffC · 05-18-2011, 11:21 AM

Actually I've spent a fair part of the afternoon on this -
my solution,

replaced 'kindle for PC' with the previous version
the book I wanted to convert was then downloaded as a zip file, instead of a azw
Calibre then converted it !
it's differently formatted in the viewer - but as long as the text is readable that's all that matters.

serves me right for picking an Amazon freebie .....

now to remove kindle for PC from my PC -

Thanks for your help guys and gals .....

KevinH · 05-18-2011, 11:38 AM

Hi,

That particular website has an updated FAQ that points out that Amazon has completely changed its Kindle specific "storage" format in Kindle for PC 1.5.0 and so this has finally broken things for that plugin. In other words ... *no* tool will work anymore if you are using Kindle for PC 1.5.0 or later. It was bound to happen at some point in time and it did.

According to the FAQ, the only current "solution" is to downgrade to Kindle for PC 1.4.1 or earlier (which is what I think you just did) and things will magically all work again. Just remember to turn-off autoupdate with K4PC otherwise K4PC will upgrade itself automatically.

Although there have been a few minor Calibre nits with those plugins over the years, Calibre itself is pretty robust and if ever broken, quickly fixed. So if you have any trouble related to "those" plugins, your best first bet is to check out the FAQ on the "plugin" site or ask in the comments there first.

My 2 cents.

GeoffC · 05-19-2011, 04:58 AM

My best solution was, once I had the book, was to remove kindle4PC .....

[as an aside, there is a plugin in my Calibre plugin folder - but it does not show up in the plugin manager ....

- can't say anymore 'cause it's the plugin we're not supposed to mention ....

]

nynaevelan · 05-19-2011, 06:37 AM

The plugin you are not allowed to mention will probably never be included in the plugin updater script, that is what you are referring to right??

As a side note I prefer to download my books to k4pc first and then import them into calibre. I know you can do this from the kindle but I prefer not to put books onto my kindle until after I have run that plugin and edited metadata. Luckily I found out 1.5.x would break them so I never updated and I do not turn on automatic updating for any software, if something goes wrong with my pc I like to be able to backtrack to where the problem started and this gives me better control.

Nyn

GeoffC · 05-19-2011, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nynaevelan

The plugin you are not allowed to mention will probably never be included in the plugin updater script, that is what you are referring to right??

Aye ...

and yet other scripts one isn't allowed to mention, are there

itimpi · 05-19-2011, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffC

and yet other scripts one isn't allowed to mention, are there

I could not spot any that fell into this category

kiwidude · 05-19-2011, 11:07 AM

I'm glad you said that itimpi as I have no idea what GeoffC is trying to say. Plugin Updater uses as it's source the plugin index sticky thread in the plugins forum. The only plugins it *can* show are those listed on that thread. And none of those are even close to being in violation of MobileRead policies in any way?

Unless the MobileRead policy changes (unlikely), or Plugin Updater moves away from being dependent on the MobileRead forums for its index and zip files then no other plugins can appear in Plugin Updater.

05-18-2011, 07:11 AM	#1
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Not too sure what is happening here ... Downloaded my first kindle file into Calibre 0.7.56 - and was able to view it. Then made a request for it to be converted into mobi - to add cover etc. Process failed because it couldn't initialise a certain plugin (me thought if the book could be viewed that it wasn't drm'ed). Since that occasion I have been unable to view using the Calibre viewer, every time I hit the 'view' icon, Calibre indicates it is trying to add the book - then complains I already have a copy in the database ..... . Downloaded and installed 0.8.1. ... but this has not changed the action that 'view' wants to add a book .....

05-18-2011, 11:07 AM	#4
Pookeysgirl Wizard Posts: 1,705 Karma: 12696746 Join Date: May 2010 Device: K3, Kobo Mini	Hi Geoff, I had a similar issue about a month ago. I had to uninstall the plug-in and re-install it after downloading it again from the website. Not sure why or how it got messed up in the first place, but it fixed the problem ::

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05-18-2011, 09:15 AM	#2
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Latest : Have deleted "kindle for PC" - it was taking over ! The view option now tells me the azw file is not recognised, so at least my duplicate downloading has stopped ....

05-18-2011, 10:28 AM	#3
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,219 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	You need to fix your plugin, and all your problems will disappear.

05-18-2011, 11:21 AM	#5
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	Actually I've spent a fair part of the afternoon on this - my solution, replaced 'kindle for PC' with the previous version the book I wanted to convert was then downloaded as a zip file, instead of a azw Calibre then converted it ! it's differently formatted in the viewer - but as long as the text is readable that's all that matters. serves me right for picking an Amazon freebie ..... now to remove kindle for PC from my PC - Thanks for your help guys and gals .....

05-18-2011, 11:38 AM	#6
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,504 Karma: 5703586 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	Hi, That particular website has an updated FAQ that points out that Amazon has completely changed its Kindle specific "storage" format in Kindle for PC 1.5.0 and so this has finally broken things for that plugin. In other words ... no tool will work anymore if you are using Kindle for PC 1.5.0 or later. It was bound to happen at some point in time and it did. According to the FAQ, the only current "solution" is to downgrade to Kindle for PC 1.4.1 or earlier (which is what I think you just did) and things will magically all work again. Just remember to turn-off autoupdate with K4PC otherwise K4PC will upgrade itself automatically. Although there have been a few minor Calibre nits with those plugins over the years, Calibre itself is pretty robust and if ever broken, quickly fixed. So if you have any trouble related to "those" plugins, your best first bet is to check out the FAQ on the "plugin" site or ask in the comments there first. My 2 cents.

05-19-2011, 04:58 AM	#7
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	My best solution was, once I had the book, was to remove kindle4PC ..... [as an aside, there is a plugin in my Calibre plugin folder - but it does not show up in the plugin manager .... - can't say anymore 'cause it's the plugin we're not supposed to mention .... ]

05-19-2011, 06:37 AM	#8
nynaevelan eBook Junkie Posts: 1,526 Karma: 1464018 Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Device: Kindle Fire 2020, Kindle PW2	The plugin you are not allowed to mention will probably never be included in the plugin updater script, that is what you are referring to right?? As a side note I prefer to download my books to k4pc first and then import them into calibre. I know you can do this from the kindle but I prefer not to put books onto my kindle until after I have run that plugin and edited metadata. Luckily I found out 1.5.x would break them so I never updated and I do not turn on automatic updating for any software, if something goes wrong with my pc I like to be able to backtrack to where the problem started and this gives me better control. Nyn

05-19-2011, 11:07 AM	#11
kiwidude Calibre Plugins Developer Posts: 4,723 Karma: 2197770 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Australia Device: Kindle Oasis	I'm glad you said that itimpi as I have no idea what GeoffC is trying to say. Plugin Updater uses as it's source the plugin index sticky thread in the plugins forum. The only plugins it can show are those listed on that thread. And none of those are even close to being in violation of MobileRead policies in any way? Unless the MobileRead policy changes (unlikely), or Plugin Updater moves away from being dependent on the MobileRead forums for its index and zip files then no other plugins can appear in Plugin Updater.

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