Dictionary only works on pre-loads?

amo · 12-01-2010, 08:03 PM

It's just come to my attention that the dictionary in the WiFi Kobo only seems to work on the pre-loaded books- not on side-loads, and not even on a book purchased from the kobobooks site. Surely, that's a bug?

digital_steve · 12-01-2010, 08:18 PM

It only works on kobo format books, which aren't your average epub apparently

HTH

erictoma · 12-01-2010, 08:46 PM

This is really a stupid thing ! I will not buy from them and let Kobo representatives here know that I m not buying from them because of that silly behavior.

Jar Jar Binks · 12-01-2010, 08:51 PM

Well that tears that I was going to get a Kobo for my Mom. NOPE!!!
Jar Jar Binks

amo · 12-01-2010, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digital_steve

It only works on kobo format books, which aren't your average epub apparently

HTH

You'd think a book purchased from the kobobooks site would be in kobo format, wouldn't you?

amo · 12-01-2010, 10:40 PM

Jar Jar and erictoma, I still really like my kobo though. It does everything I want it to do. The dictionary isn't high on my list of important things; in fact, I hadn't even noticed that particular bug until erictoma's other thread. And I've found kobo's customer service really great, at least here in Canada. I fully expect them to fix the current bugs in their next firmware release (which is why I started this thread, to bring the problem to the attention of the kobo techies).

So in spite of the bugs, I'd still recommend the kobo. I have no experience with other readers, but I'm not sorry I got a kobo vs. one of the other machines.

amo · 12-03-2010, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digital_steve

It only works on kobo format books, which aren't your average epub apparently

In another thread, someone said that kobo format only "comes across" if you load it via the desktop app? I don't use the desktop app (can't, my Mac's too old), only ADE. I wonder if that's why the dictionary doesn't work on the kobo-bought book I have?

pholy · 12-03-2010, 12:14 PM

Yep, that would be it. You would have downloaded the .acsm file to ADE, and it would have downloaded and copied over a standard encrypted epub file. So - no dictionary access to epub files, no matter which store they come from.

Psyke · 12-03-2010, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amo

In another thread, someone said that kobo format only "comes across" if you load it via the desktop app? I don't use the desktop app (can't, my Mac's too old), only ADE. I wonder if that's why the dictionary doesn't work on the kobo-bought book I have?

more than likely, because loading the books onto the kobo via ADE, even purchased books, are still sideloaded, which the dictionary does not work with.

taming · 12-03-2010, 12:50 PM

Yes, the renderer (which decrypts as part of the process of running the dictionary) currently only does its magic on kepub formatted books. Not sure if a change could be made to decrypt using two different DRM schemes, though decrypting non-DRM books would (theoretically) be more possible. I'm not counting on that happening any time soon.

erictoma · 12-03-2010, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amo

Jar Jar and erictoma, I still really like my kobo though. It does everything I want it to do. The dictionary isn't high on my list of important things; in fact, I hadn't even noticed that particular bug until erictoma's other thread. And I've found kobo's customer service really great, at least here in Canada. I fully expect them to fix the current bugs in their next firmware release (which is why I started this thread, to bring the problem to the attention of the kobo techies).

So in spite of the bugs, I'd still recommend the kobo. I have no experience with other readers, but I'm not sorry I got a kobo vs. one of the other machines.

Sorry to offend your feeling, I like Kobo but the dictionary is very high in my list of important thinks because i m welling to improve my English

amo · 12-03-2010, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erictoma

Sorry to offend your feeling, I like Kobo but the dictionary is very high in my list of important thinks because i m welling to improve my English

Oh, I'm not offended at all! I just wanted to make sure you know that the kobo is still a great little machine, in spite of the "missing" dictionary.

And way to go for trying to learn better English- it works (did I mention English isn't my first language, either? I did the same as you, I made a real effort to learn it. Now people can't even tell any more that I didn't grow up in Canada.). I also think you're really smart checking out this stuff before you buy.

erictoma · 12-03-2010, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amo

Oh, I'm not offended at all! I just wanted to make sure you know that the kobo is still a great little machine, in spite of the "missing" dictionary.

The dictionary is not missing at all, after your post I thought that the built in dictionary works only with the purchased books From Kobo.
But after Tamy explanation, I have changed my mind.
She said that the dictionary works also on free ebooks from Kobo, which is great for improving English vocabulary without paying a cent.
Relying on free ebooks from local libraries would not be good for me, because they don't support the built dictionary and secondo most of their ebooks are literallyrubbish.

You have you solved your bug.

jayupark · 03-25-2011, 10:42 PM

I really hope Kobo gets a bit more out of it's product with the next firmware update. Dictionary, better bookmarks, slight speed improvement, jump to page, etc would make it a top tier reader.

taming · 03-26-2011, 08:01 AM

The dictionary works with any book in kepub format. It does not "catch" plurals, but I have been told they are looking at that for the next wifi update. Go-to pages are already in the 1.9 WiFi update. I have no idea if the original kobo will get that at not.

12-01-2010, 08:03 PM	#1
amo Teaist Posts: 230 Karma: 74542 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: British Columbia, Canada Device: Kobo WiFi, Kobo Aura ONE, Android cell phone	Dictionary only works on pre-loads? It's just come to my attention that the dictionary in the WiFi Kobo only seems to work on the pre-loaded books- not on side-loads, and not even on a book purchased from the kobobooks site. Surely, that's a bug?

12-01-2010, 08:46 PM	#3
erictoma Banned Posts: 223 Karma: 126 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Montreal Quebec Canada Device: None	This is really a stupid thing ! I will not buy from them and let Kobo representatives here know that I m not buying from them because of that silly behavior. Last edited by erictoma; 12-01-2010 at 09:01 PM.

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12-01-2010, 08:18 PM	#2
digital_steve Muppet Posts: 240 Karma: 442 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tasmania Device: Kobo Aura HD, Sony PRS-650	It only works on kobo format books, which aren't your average epub apparently HTH

12-01-2010, 08:51 PM	#4
Jar Jar Binks Enthusiast Posts: 46 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lindsay,Ontario Canada Device: PRS650 And PRS 350 Yay I got it !!! I got it !!! I'm in love.	Well that tears that I was going to get a Kobo for my Mom. NOPE!!! Jar Jar Binks

12-01-2010, 10:40 PM	#6
amo Teaist Posts: 230 Karma: 74542 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: British Columbia, Canada Device: Kobo WiFi, Kobo Aura ONE, Android cell phone	Jar Jar and erictoma, I still really like my kobo though. It does everything I want it to do. The dictionary isn't high on my list of important things; in fact, I hadn't even noticed that particular bug until erictoma's other thread. And I've found kobo's customer service really great, at least here in Canada. I fully expect them to fix the current bugs in their next firmware release (which is why I started this thread, to bring the problem to the attention of the kobo techies). So in spite of the bugs, I'd still recommend the kobo. I have no experience with other readers, but I'm not sorry I got a kobo vs. one of the other machines.

12-03-2010, 12:14 PM	#8
pholy Booklegger Posts: 1,801 Karma: 7999816 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Device: BeBook(1 & 2010), PEZ, PRS-505, Kobo BT, PRS-T1, Playbook, Kobo Touch	Yep, that would be it. You would have downloaded the .acsm file to ADE, and it would have downloaded and copied over a standard encrypted epub file. So - no dictionary access to epub files, no matter which store they come from.

12-03-2010, 12:50 PM	#10
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	Yes, the renderer (which decrypts as part of the process of running the dictionary) currently only does its magic on kepub formatted books. Not sure if a change could be made to decrypt using two different DRM schemes, though decrypting non-DRM books would (theoretically) be more possible. I'm not counting on that happening any time soon.

03-25-2011, 10:42 PM	#14
jayupark Enthusiast Posts: 37 Karma: 41930 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Arlington, MA Device: Kindle 3G, Kobo wifi	I really hope Kobo gets a bit more out of it's product with the next firmware update. Dictionary, better bookmarks, slight speed improvement, jump to page, etc would make it a top tier reader.

03-26-2011, 08:01 AM	#15
taming Trying for calm & polite Posts: 4,012 Karma: 9455193 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mostly in Canada Device: kobo original, WiFI, Touch, Glo, and Aura	The dictionary works with any book in kepub format. It does not "catch" plurals, but I have been told they are looking at that for the next wifi update. Go-to pages are already in the 1.9 WiFi update. I have no idea if the original kobo will get that at not.

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