The Government is killing people!

SameOldStory · 01-27-2011, 11:48 AM

What may look like a pretty picture is actually a plan to kill off old people!

For the forth time in less than 24 hours I've been shoveling snow. You have to do it BY LAW! A couple of people in this area have been fined over $1000 for not shoveling!

And they well know that a number of people will have heart attacks and die. They just don't care! In fact it's so common that it rarely gets a mention in the newspapers or on TV.

Stop the carnage now!

pholy · 01-27-2011, 12:34 PM

In Toronto, the outer, newer suburbs with wide sidewalks have their walks shoveled by the city with little Bobcat(?) plows. Downtown, with narrow sidewalks and cars parked right beside the walk, the residents have 12 hours after the snow stops to do their shoveling. If city workers do it later (and they aren't too strict), the cost gets added to the owner's tax bill. But seniors and disabled people are exempted, the city will do theirs for them. You need to talk to your council!
In St John's, Newfoundland, as I understand, there is no shoveling bylaw and nobody does it. Roads get plowed, though, so that's where you find the pedestrians. Makes the winter walk somewhat dangerous... they get more snow than Toronto!

kennyc · 01-28-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SameOldStory

What may look like a pretty picture is actually a plan to kill off old people!

For the forth time in less than 24 hours I've been shoveling snow. You have to do it BY LAW! A couple of people in this area have been fined over $1000 for not shoveling!

And they well know that a number of people will have heart attacks and die. They just don't care! In fact it's so common that it rarely gets a mention in the newspapers or on TV.

Stop the carnage now!

I can sympathize....

Barcey · 01-28-2011, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pholy

In Toronto, the outer, newer suburbs with wide sidewalks have their walks shoveled by the city with little Bobcat(?) plows. Downtown, with narrow sidewalks and cars parked right beside the walk, the residents have 12 hours after the snow stops to do their shoveling. If city workers do it later (and they aren't too strict), the cost gets added to the owner's tax bill. But seniors and disabled people are exempted, the city will do theirs for them. You need to talk to your council!
In St John's, Newfoundland, as I understand, there is no shoveling bylaw and nobody does it. Roads get plowed, though, so that's where you find the pedestrians. Makes the winter walk somewhat dangerous... they get more snow than Toronto!

I thought that Toronto calls in the army to shovel their snow.

The rest of Canada will never forget.

jbcohen · 01-28-2011, 01:59 PM

Must be a local law, becuase I don't think that the US Federal Government has any authority in this matter.

wodin · 01-28-2011, 02:07 PM

Nope, don't have to shovel the walkways here!

twowheels · 01-28-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pholy

Downtown, with narrow sidewalks and cars parked right beside the walk, the residents have 12 hours after the snow stops to do their shoveling.

Whoa... what if you're on vacation or a business trip when it snows?

jbcohen · 01-28-2011, 02:17 PM

My local government will get angry with me if I don't but the worst thing they could possibly do to me if I don't is to give me some dirty looks and be really pissed off.

desertblues · 01-28-2011, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SameOldStory

What may look like a pretty picture is actually a plan to kill off old people!

For the forth time in less than 24 hours I've been shoveling snow. You have to do it BY LAW! A couple of people in this area have been fined over $1000 for not shoveling!

And they well know that a number of people will have heart attacks and die. They just don't care! In fact it's so common that it rarely gets a mention in the newspapers or on TV.
Stop the carnage now!

That is just awful for you people.

I fully sympathize with you.

FizzyWater · 01-28-2011, 04:11 PM

It's a city law in Columbus, as well, although I don't know how often it's enforced.

vivaldirules · 01-28-2011, 07:45 PM

I'm pretty sure it's not a law anywhere that you have to do it yourself. There are lots of people who love to do shovel sidewalks for a few bucks. And maybe even some (okay, maybe deranged) friends or relatives who would do it for nothing.

And may I say that is a lovely photo, SOS. I love that time of the late afternoon when refracted sunlight turns the tree tops red. They're lovely in the snow. (says the dog who lives in Houston)

SameOldStory · 01-28-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vivaldirules

I'm pretty sure it's not a law anywhere that you have to do it yourself. There are lots of people who love to do shovel sidewalks for a few bucks. And maybe even some (okay, maybe deranged) friends or relatives who would do it for nothing.

And may I say that is a lovely photo, SOS. I love that time of the late afternoon when refracted sunlight turns the tree tops red. They're lovely in the snow. (says the dog who lives in Houston)

Thanks about the photo. The sky was almost completely gray when the early morning sun peaked thru. I ran inside for the camera and just caught it. Ten minutes later it was all gray again.

Then back to more shoveling.

"There are lots of people who love to do shovel sidewalks for a few bucks."

The law says us old folk have to do it ourselves. I think that it has to do with lowering Medicare coasts. Or something like that, anyway.

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Originally Posted by wodin

Nope, don't have to shovel the walkways here!

What about chipping away the lava when it covers the sidewalk?

WARNING - The OP is prone to flippancy and foolishness.
Any serious responces calls into question, ummm, all kinds of things.

wodin · 01-28-2011, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SameOldStory

What about chipping away the lava when it covers the sidewalk?

WARNING - The OP is prone to flippancy and foolishness.
Any serious responces calls into question, ummm, all kinds of things.

Naw, that's over in Grace's neck of the lava fields. Only thing we worry about is the sand washed in by the tsunamis.

Fbone · 01-28-2011, 09:33 PM

Oh, my aching back. This shoveling has got to stop!

Forget asking neighborhood kids to shovel. They wanted $300 to shovel my neighbor's walkway and half of her driveway. Such enterprising teenagers we have.

devilsadvocate · 01-29-2011, 01:55 AM

If any municipality informs me that I'm required to shovel snow, guess where the shovel's going...

01-27-2011, 11:48 AM	#1
SameOldStory My True Self Posts: 3,126 Karma: 66242098 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Trantor, Galactic Center Device: Galaxy Tab 2 7.0	The Government is killing people! What may look like a pretty picture is actually a plan to kill off old people! For the forth time in less than 24 hours I've been shoveling snow. You have to do it BY LAW! A couple of people in this area have been fined over $1000 for not shoveling! And they well know that a number of people will have heart attacks and die. They just don't care! In fact it's so common that it rarely gets a mention in the newspapers or on TV. Stop the carnage now!

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pholy Booklegger Posts: 1,801 Karma: 7999816 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Device: BeBook(1 & 2010), PEZ, PRS-505, Kobo BT, PRS-T1, Playbook, Kobo Touch	In Toronto, the outer, newer suburbs with wide sidewalks have their walks shoveled by the city with little Bobcat(?) plows. Downtown, with narrow sidewalks and cars parked right beside the walk, the residents have 12 hours after the snow stops to do their shoveling. If city workers do it later (and they aren't too strict), the cost gets added to the owner's tax bill. But seniors and disabled people are exempted, the city will do theirs for them. You need to talk to your council! In St John's, Newfoundland, as I understand, there is no shoveling bylaw and nobody does it. Roads get plowed, though, so that's where you find the pedestrians. Makes the winter walk somewhat dangerous... they get more snow than Toronto!

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jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,033 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Where am I? Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature edition and a Samsung S24 Ultra	Must be a local law, becuase I don't think that the US Federal Government has any authority in this matter.

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wodin Illiterate Posts: 10,279 Karma: 37848716 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Sandwich Isles Device: Samsung Galaxy S10+, Microsoft Surface Pro	Nope, don't have to shovel the walkways here!

01-28-2011, 02:17 PM	#8
jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,033 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Where am I? Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature edition and a Samsung S24 Ultra	My local government will get angry with me if I don't but the worst thing they could possibly do to me if I don't is to give me some dirty looks and be really pissed off.

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FizzyWater You kids get off my lawn! Posts: 4,220 Karma: 73492664 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Device: Oasis 2 and Libra H2O and half a dozen older models I can't let go of	It's a city law in Columbus, as well, although I don't know how often it's enforced.

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vivaldirules When's Doughnut Day? Posts: 10,059 Karma: 13675475 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Houston, TX, US Device: Sony PRS-505, iPad	I'm pretty sure it's not a law anywhere that you have to do it yourself. There are lots of people who love to do shovel sidewalks for a few bucks. And maybe even some (okay, maybe deranged) friends or relatives who would do it for nothing. And may I say that is a lovely photo, SOS. I love that time of the late afternoon when refracted sunlight turns the tree tops red. They're lovely in the snow. (says the dog who lives in Houston)

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Fbone Is that a sandwich? Posts: 8,313 Karma: 103930826 Join Date: Jun 2010 Device: Nook Glowlight Plus	Oh, my aching back. This shoveling has got to stop! Forget asking neighborhood kids to shovel. They wanted $300 to shovel my neighbor's walkway and half of her driveway. Such enterprising teenagers we have.

01-29-2011, 01:55 AM	#15
devilsadvocate Complicated Warlock Posts: 677 Karma: 160970 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Madiganistan Device: HP Mini 1101, Droid X rooted, GTab rooted/VEGAnTAB Ginger Edition/CM7	If any municipality informs me that I'm required to shovel snow, guess where the shovel's going...

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