Total wireless backup?

Stonecold · 10-20-2010, 05:11 PM

Is there a way to ask Amazon to somehow backup all of my Kindle content including my personal documents? It's just that I messed up my Kindle 3 by installing a faulty USB Network hack and now my Kindle is refusing to connect to my computer so I can't uninstall the hack. I really don't want to do a factory reset because so much of my content are personal documents and I haven't backed up my data in months (and I can't now because my Kindle won't connect via USB). Is it possible for Amazon to backup all my data wirelessly and e-mail it to me or something? I know Amazon are very friendly and there's a good chance they'd do that for me, but would they be able to? Could they wirelessly extract the data from my Kindle? If they can and do, I'll be able to reset my Kindle to factory defaults and put the data Amazon sent me back on.

Tiersten · 10-20-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Stonecold

Is there a way to ask Amazon to somehow backup all of my Kindle content including my personal documents?

No. It only backups your annotations, bookmarks and furthest read and only if they're items from the Kindle store. I doubt Kindle CS would be able to initiate a backup like you want either as the mechanism is mainly based on download only of eBooks. The only uploading is the previous mentioned data and diagnostic log files. You can ask them but I wouldn't expect them to be able to. They'd be opening a huge can of worms anyway if they did have this ability considering people already pointlessly rage about the data that is uploaded already.

Nahgem · 10-20-2010, 06:02 PM

That sucks. I had to do something similar with my Nook, but fortunately, I back up my data frequently enough to not lose anything.

For the personal documents you've emailed to your Kindle, do you still have copies of those emails in a sent folder or something? Might be able to recover some of them that way.

Tiersten · 10-20-2010, 06:04 PM

In any case, the Kindle shouldn't contain the only copy of anything important :P

Stonecold · 10-20-2010, 06:04 PM

Then do you know of any other way to backup or transfer data from my Kindle without connecting it to a computer? I have a Kindle 3 (B006) so I can't backup my data to a microSD card like Kindle 1 can.

Stonecold · 10-20-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nahgem

That sucks. I had to do something similar with my Nook, but fortunately, I back up my data frequently enough to not lose anything.

I thought Nook had a MicroSD card slot. Doesn't it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nahgem

For the personal documents you've emailed to your Kindle, do you still have copies of those emails in a sent folder or something? Might be able to recover some of them that way.

Sadly, most of my "personal documents" were free, out-of-copyright (pre-1923) e-books from Inkmesh or pirated, non-DRMed e-books from other sites. Very few of my files were transfered via e-mail.

P.S. Do you think, if I were to reset my Kindle 3 to factory defaults to remove the hack I installed incorrectly, I would be able to restore the data with Recuva?

Nahgem · 10-20-2010, 06:31 PM

Nook has a micro SD slot, yes, but I haven't actually installed a card yet. Everything was backed up on my PC and external hard drive, so I just sideloaded again. *shrug*

I have no idea about recovering the files, but I hope you figure something out. I'm guessing you don't have the original files on your computer, so you can't just sideload once the Kindle is reset? Best of luck!

Tiersten · 10-20-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Stonecold

P.S. Do you think, if I were to reset my Kindle 3 to factory defaults to remove the hack I installed incorrectly, I would be able to restore the data with Recuva?

Maybe. Maybe not. The flash controller and Kindle software may prevent it from working by doing wear leveling. No idea what would happen as I've never done a factory reset and examined the flash drive. I'd say this would be an absolute last resort anyway because undeleting files is generally unreliable anyway for anything which isn't easy to piece together or if there are multiple files involved.

curstpriest · 10-20-2010, 06:59 PM

Isn't there a low-level drop to USB mode for loading firmware you can force the device into?

Stonecold · 10-20-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tiersten

Maybe. Maybe not. The flash controller and Kindle software may prevent it from working by doing wear leveling. No idea what would happen as I've never done a factory reset and examined the flash drive. I'd say this would be an absolute last resort anyway because undeleting files is generally unreliable anyway for anything which isn't easy to piece together or if there are multiple files involved.

I did do a test. I backed up my younger sister's Kindle 2 onto my computer and then reset her device to factory defaults. I then connected the empty device to my computer and had Recuva scan the device. The only files it found were a couple semi-intact GIF screenshots and a badly corrupt audiobook (along with something that it thought was an AVI file titled "index`db"). Unless Kindle 3 doesn't emit as powerful a flash as Kindle 2, I won't be able to recover anything useful with Recuva.

Stonecold · 10-20-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by curstpriest

Isn't there a low-level drop to USB mode for loading firmware you can force the device into?

There might be, but I wouldn't know how to access it. Firmware updates are normally just dropped into the root of the device anyways.

curstpriest · 10-20-2010, 08:41 PM

Why do you need to recover files exactly? Like you should be able to get anything you had before easily if you paid for it, just go to the pay-site and re-download... If you got it through other means.. then get it through those means again...
I don't get it, the kindle doesn't have word processing software, and it isn't a camcorder, so wtf did you lose that you need to recover?

curstpriest · 10-20-2010, 08:43 PM

Recovery mode

To enable the recovery mode, reboot and hold the Home-botton when the screen is flashing from black to white.

Connect via USB to a computer and manage the files on the device. Press R to reboot.

Does this work on K3?

http://blogkindle.com/2009/03/kindle-2-recovery-mode/

This alex kid has the exact same avatar as you (mabye it is you?)
he broke his kindle with USBnetwork hack too! awsome

Anyways, try rebooting with usb plugged in, and maybe it will default to usb drive mode before kindle loads its normal firmware? I can't tell that kid's engrish is bad. Try fiddling with recovery mode options.

Alex
July 10th, 2010 at 11:47 am

I’ve tried entering the recovery mode trick and it use to work. Now, for some reason, if you hold the home button while the Kindle is rebooting, the Kindle says: “Type ‘RESET’ to reset to factory defaults”. I think I’ve found out why. I think recovery mode was removed from firmware version 2.5. I think it only worked in version 2.3.
ctduc
July 15th, 2010 at 9:45 am

hi Alex,

you can reenter USB Drive Mode flow below steps:
1. plugin usb
2. restart your kindle
3. you will be on usb drive mode after the progress bar is finish

I thinks a bricked my kindle after try usbNet hack, it not recognize my USB, thanks god I found this

Stonecold · 10-20-2010, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by curstpriest

Recovery mode

To enable the recovery mode, reboot and hold the Home-botton when the screen is flashing from black to white.

Connect via USB to a computer and manage the files on the device. Press R to reboot.

Does this work on K3?

http://blogkindle.com/2009/03/kindle-2-recovery-mode/

This alex kid has the exact same avatar as you (mabye it is you?)
he broke his kindle with USBnetwork hack too! awsome

Anyways, try rebooting with usb plugged in, and maybe it will default to usb drive mode before kindle loads its normal firmware? I can't tell that kid's engrish is bad. Try fiddling with recovery mode options.

Alex
July 10th, 2010 at 11:47 am

I’ve tried entering the recovery mode trick and it use to work. Now, for some reason, if you hold the home button while the Kindle is rebooting, the Kindle says: “Type ‘RESET’ to reset to factory defaults”. I think I’ve found out why. I think recovery mode was removed from firmware version 2.5. I think it only worked in version 2.3.
ctduc
July 15th, 2010 at 9:45 am

hi Alex,

you can reenter USB Drive Mode flow below steps:
1. plugin usb
2. restart your kindle
3. you will be on usb drive mode after the progress bar is finish

I thinks a bricked my kindle after try usbNet hack, it not recognize my USB, thanks god I found this

Yup, that's me. Same avatar, same Kindle problems and everything. Anyways, thanks for showing me the reply I got. I forgot I even was on that site! I'll try that now.

NiLuJe · 10-20-2010, 11:13 PM

AFAIK, you can no longer access the recovery mode *without* doing a factory reset since FW 2.5. (ie. it's now hold [home] during a cold boot => 'type reset' screen => hold [home] (after having typed reset, ie. on the reset to factory defaults progress bar) => recovery instead of hold [home] during a cold boot => recovery).

10-20-2010, 05:11 PM	#1
Stonecold Connoisseur Posts: 95 Karma: 500 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Davis, CA Device: Kindle 3 (B006)	Total wireless backup? Is there a way to ask Amazon to somehow backup all of my Kindle content including my personal documents? It's just that I messed up my Kindle 3 by installing a faulty USB Network hack and now my Kindle is refusing to connect to my computer so I can't uninstall the hack. I really don't want to do a factory reset because so much of my content are personal documents and I haven't backed up my data in months (and I can't now because my Kindle won't connect via USB). Is it possible for Amazon to backup all my data wirelessly and e-mail it to me or something? I know Amazon are very friendly and there's a good chance they'd do that for me, but would they be able to? Could they wirelessly extract the data from my Kindle? If they can and do, I'll be able to reset my Kindle to factory defaults and put the data Amazon sent me back on.

10-20-2010, 08:43 PM	#13
curstpriest Confused Posts: 402 Karma: 5538 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bay Area Device: Kindle DXG	Recovery mode To enable the recovery mode, reboot and hold the Home-botton when the screen is flashing from black to white. Connect via USB to a computer and manage the files on the device. Press R to reboot. Does this work on K3? http://blogkindle.com/2009/03/kindle-2-recovery-mode/ This alex kid has the exact same avatar as you (mabye it is you?) he broke his kindle with USBnetwork hack too! awsome Anyways, try rebooting with usb plugged in, and maybe it will default to usb drive mode before kindle loads its normal firmware? I can't tell that kid's engrish is bad. Try fiddling with recovery mode options. Alex July 10th, 2010 at 11:47 am I’ve tried entering the recovery mode trick and it use to work. Now, for some reason, if you hold the home button while the Kindle is rebooting, the Kindle says: “Type ‘RESET’ to reset to factory defaults”. I think I’ve found out why. I think recovery mode was removed from firmware version 2.5. I think it only worked in version 2.3. ctduc July 15th, 2010 at 9:45 am hi Alex, you can reenter USB Drive Mode flow below steps: 1. plugin usb 2. restart your kindle 3. you will be on usb drive mode after the progress bar is finish I thinks a bricked my kindle after try usbNet hack, it not recognize my USB, thanks god I found this Last edited by curstpriest; 10-20-2010 at 08:52 PM.

10-20-2010, 11:13 PM	#15
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047190 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	AFAIK, you can no longer access the recovery mode without doing a factory reset since FW 2.5. (ie. it's now hold [home] during a cold boot => 'type reset' screen => hold [home] (after having typed reset, ie. on the reset to factory defaults progress bar) => recovery instead of hold [home] during a cold boot => recovery). Last edited by NiLuJe; 10-21-2010 at 12:50 AM.

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10-20-2010, 06:02 PM	#3
Nahgem Groupie Posts: 170 Karma: 1065326 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Nooks	That sucks. I had to do something similar with my Nook, but fortunately, I back up my data frequently enough to not lose anything. For the personal documents you've emailed to your Kindle, do you still have copies of those emails in a sent folder or something? Might be able to recover some of them that way.

10-20-2010, 06:04 PM	#4
Tiersten Guru Posts: 987 Karma: 8641 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle 3G+WiFi	In any case, the Kindle shouldn't contain the only copy of anything important :P

10-20-2010, 06:31 PM	#7
Nahgem Groupie Posts: 170 Karma: 1065326 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: Nooks	Nook has a micro SD slot, yes, but I haven't actually installed a card yet. Everything was backed up on my PC and external hard drive, so I just sideloaded again. shrug I have no idea about recovering the files, but I hope you figure something out. I'm guessing you don't have the original files on your computer, so you can't just sideload once the Kindle is reset? Best of luck!

10-20-2010, 06:59 PM	#9
curstpriest Confused Posts: 402 Karma: 5538 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bay Area Device: Kindle DXG	Isn't there a low-level drop to USB mode for loading firmware you can force the device into?

10-20-2010, 08:41 PM	#12
curstpriest Confused Posts: 402 Karma: 5538 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bay Area Device: Kindle DXG	Why do you need to recover files exactly? Like you should be able to get anything you had before easily if you paid for it, just go to the pay-site and re-download... If you got it through other means.. then get it through those means again... I don't get it, the kindle doesn't have word processing software, and it isn't a camcorder, so wtf did you lose that you need to recover?

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