Hrm...can't decide...shocker :D

[Dominion]

So I can't decide which reader I would like the most. My birthday is next week and I think my wife is getting me a Nook, so in a way the decision is possibly already made for me. However I've been reading alot about the various readers and have become slightly concerned about the future of the Nook and B&N.

Here are some of my thoughts personally on the two devices:

Nook:

• I LOVE the LCD screen at the bottom. I'm a bit of a visuals and OCD whore and have spent ALOT of time organizing my ebook library to have the correct book cover, titles, series, etc.
• I like that it's not owned by Amazon. I have had BAD luck with Amazon in the past but that's mostly with shipping physical items.
• I like the onscreen keyboard.
• I like that it's got a wide range of supported formats as well as the option to root it and play around with the OS.

Kindle 3:

• I like the screen, it's nice and updated.
• I like that it's more established and Amazon (despite my feelings about the company) has a ton of steam left.
• Kinda like the above, it's the third generation, we can look forward to more advances in the future.
• I hear it's faster than the nook but I haven't played with it.
• A larger book library that I can purchase from.

Some things that I NEED to have (rooted or basic):
Sort books by Genre and series, or the ability to search by those headers.
Easily allow me to upload my own books to the device.
Long battery life.
Ease of navigation, I can easily figure out most navigation menus but sometimes I don't want that hassle. I'd rather just easily flip around through things.


My biggest issue is I've recently replaced every book in my physical library with an ebook equivlent, all 350+ books. Most are in the .lit or .epub format and it's not an issue for me to convert to MOBI format with calibre. It'll take awhile but totally doable :P

[fjtorres]

Both readers let you sideload your books via USB.
Kindle lets you email them or download them via the browser.
Kindle has the longer battery life.
Kindle collections let you search or sort.

Sounds like you're looking for somebody to talk you out of a Kindle.

[Dominion]

Originally Posted by fjtorres

Both readers let you sideload your books via USB.
Kindle lets you email them or download them via the browser.
Kindle has the longer battery life.
Kindle collections let you search or sort.

Sounds like you're looking for somebody to talk you out of a Kindle.

Lol, I just hate that stupid keyboard :P

[boswd]

i have the Nook and just love it. Don't worry about the future of BN, it looks like they will be going private at some point. The have made several moves that points them to the fact that the digital ereading is their future with Nook ereader being at the center, Nook Study, Nook apps for Android, iphone, ipod touch and iPad and home computers,

Their library is solid and since it supports epub you can shop pretty much where you want and that includes checking out books from your library. You can't with the Kindle unless you want to do something illeagle.

The Nook's battery life will get you anywhere from 5 to 8 days. It's shorter than the Kindle but it's the tradeoff for have the LCD Screen. And let's face it, finding time to plug in a device after 5 days or so isn't exactly going to ruin your life. besides you can still read it while it's charging.

The nook is already epub so no sending your books to BN via email and sending them back. That's a little annoying. You can just sideload them straight to the Nook

and also you buy books from other sources that are in epub and for some reason you want to try another epub ereader your library comes with you unaltered or any other type of conversion. The kinle is again reformating again and again. Just too much of an unneccary headache to keep on doing that if you ask me.

Nook has replacable battery
Nook and expandable memory
you can finger swipe using the lcd screen (when it goes to sleep) to turn pages. It gives a more natural feel and flow when reading than clicking a button. Though if you like clicking a button you can as well.

Instore support and InStore Experience. Bring your nook in any bn and you get extra coupons, offers, something free from the Starbucks cafe, read any book for an hour. It's pretty fun.


and lets face it much much more stylish accesories

[Dominion]

Originally Posted by boswd

i have the Nook and just love it. Don't worry about the future of BN, it looks like they will be going private at some point. The have made several moves that points them to the fact that the digital ereading is their future with Nook ereader being at the center, Nook Study, Nook apps for Android, iphone, ipod touch and iPad and home computers,

Their library is solid and since it supports epub you can shop pretty much where you want and that includes checking out books from your library. You can't with the Kindle unless you want to do something illeagle.

The Nook's battery life will get you anywhere from 5 to 8 days. It's shorter than the Kindle but it's the tradeoff for have the LCD Screen. And let's face it, finding time to plug in a device after 5 days or so isn't exactly going to ruin your life. besides you can still read it while it's charging.

The nook is already epub so no sending your books to BN via email and sending them back. That's a little annoying. You can just sideload them straight to the Nook

and also you buy books from other sources that are in epub and for some reason you want to try another epub ereader your library comes with you unaltered or any other type of conversion. The kinle is again reformating again and again. Just too much of an unneccary headache to keep on doing that if you ask me.

Nook has replacable battery
Nook and expandable memory
you can finger swipe using the lcd screen (when it goes to sleep) to turn pages. It gives a more natural feel and flow when reading than clicking a button. Though if you like clicking a button you can as well.

Instore support and InStore Experience. Bring your nook in any bn and you get extra coupons, offers, something free from the Starbucks cafe, read any book for an hour. It's pretty fun.


and lets face it much much more stylish accesories

I like what you've said about the Nook and is pretty much what's pushing me towards it. As far as the epub debate, I have no issue changing the formats. Pretty much control-a, convert books, go make a sammich. It's not that difficult for me to have all my books in .lit, .epub, AND MOBI format. One of the things that has stopped me nearly dead in my tracks is that without rooting the Nook I don't get series support, I can only sort by a couple options. I do have the search features. Supposedly they have Kindle 3's on display at Best Buy so I might go tomorrow to check it out. I do like the feature of being able to read while in store. Sometimes I just like to head out.

[boswd]

well the Nook has had a series of firmware updates, 4 so far since it's release last October. and the next one i would be surprised if more sorting/folder options aren't part of the next one. What I do in the meantime is use Calibre for my Folders and such. It's worked out well so far, since my library is on Calbire as well.

[Dominion]

Originally Posted by boswd

well the Nook has had a series of firmware updates, 4 so far since it's release last October. and the next one i would be surprised if more sorting/folder options aren't part of the next one. What I do in the meantime is use Calibre for my Folders and such. It's worked out well so far, since my library is on Calbire as well.

How does sorting work exactly? Is it by folder or does it pull tags from calibre?

On the same side does Kindle pull tags from calibre as well for collections or do you have to manually create collections?

[Dominion]

A good question that can help me out maybe. Do the android apps for kindle and nook use the same sorting options as the full device? That would let me check things out a bit more.

[fjtorres]

Originally Posted by Dominion

How does sorting work exactly? Is it by folder or does it pull tags from calibre?

On the same side does Kindle pull tags from calibre as well for collections or do you have to manually create collections?

There are no folders as such. The books are indexed in a flatfile database just as in Nook and the Sonys.
You might want to look into this:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94261

[cfrizz]

Sony's software has Collections and I have made collections of all the authors that I have several books or series from.

[Dominion]

Originally Posted by fjtorres

There are no folders as such. The books are indexed in a flatfile database just as in Nook and the Sonys.
You might want to look into this:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94261

This MIGHT have tipped me over the edge for the Kindle. I plan on hitting up a best buy today to look at the Kindle and a B&N to look at a Nook to make my final decision.

[dixieknits]

I chose the Kindle 3 because the Nook was so very heavy. Also, the touch screen on it seemed more annoying than the Kindle's keyboard and pretty erratic when in use. The Kindle seemed a bit faster on page turns and both have lovely perle ink screens that are easy to read in the evening.
I have converted my epubs and rtf's from my Jetbook to mobi and transferred and set up collections on the Kindle 3. Very easy to do and now there is a third party software available to facilitate this function. I love the light smaller size of the Kindle 3, reminding me of my Jetbook, which is being retired ONLY for evening use.

[ManosHandsOfFate]

I have both and like the K3 better.

I'm not that impressed by the Nook's touchscreen. It looks nice but it's slow and is probably largely responsible for the Nook's bad battery life.

Nook page turns are slower than the K3's.

The Nook is heavier - definitely something to take into account if you read on your back holding the device above your face.

Being able to mail docs to the K3 is a nice feature.

I don't like how shiny the touchscreen and bezel of the Nook are. I found the reflectivity to be pretty annoying.

The K3 dictionary is easier to use (i.e. short definitions that stay on the page you're reading)

I think the best thing about the Nook is that it supports epub.

[Latinandgreek]

Have you considered the new Sony PRS-650? It has the updated screen of the Kindle, it's nice and light, you can view books by bookcover, and you might enjoy the touchscreen, and it's battery should last longer than the nooks - about 2 weeks per charge. It also has an onscreen keyboard, 12 dictionaries included, can handle a wide variety of formats, you can now sort books into collections on the reader itself...

For some reason, the Nook has never appealed to me (but then again, I don't live in the U.S, so even buying it would be a hassle). I would consider buying a Kindle or the Kindle DX as a backup reader, mostly because of the Amazon Kindle store access. Of the 6 inch readers on the market, however, the PRS-650 is by far the most appealing to me, and seems to be much better for viewing PDFs than the Nook or Kindle (I read a lot of PDFs).

[boswd]

Originally Posted by ManosHandsOfFate

I have both and like the K3 better.

I'm not that impressed by the Nook's touchscreen. It looks nice but it's slow and is probably largely responsible for the Nook's bad battery life.
yeah the LCD screen is the reason the battery life is shorter on the Nook than the others. I for one think it's a tradeoff I'm willing to live with. For one charging my nook every 5 to 8 days just is not an inconvience. it just isn't. by any stretch of the imagination. Unlike you I adore the color touchscreen and navigating with it. I could not go from a Nook to a Kindle, no way, way to antiquated for naviagtion.

Nook page turns are slower than the K3's.
yeah the K3 is faster but is it really advantageous. The nook's page turning speen after v1.2 was on par with the Kindle 2's page turning speed. The page turning speed was just fine. To me it was a solution to a problem that didn't exisit. It wasn't like the K2 and the Nook took 5 seconds for the page to turn. They both do it in under 2 seconds which is still alot faster than physically turning a page. So while the K3 page turning is faster, the difference is basically pointless since both the K2 and Nook's page turning is quite fast. I would like to see someone work on some page turning animation instead of the "negative flash".

The Nook is heavier - definitely something to take into account if you read on your back holding the device above your face.
Yes the Nook is heavier than the K3 but that doesn't make the Nook heavy. My pen is heavier than my pencil but that doesn't make my pen heavy. Let's put this in perspective and a little dose of reality. The Nook weighs 11oz's The Nook weighs right about the same as a 400 page Trade Paperback book. Now if a trade paperback book was oooooohhh sooo heavy for you than I don't know what to tell you. Egads people what did you guy do before e-readers came out? Whined and complain about hardcovers? Geeesh those things weigh about 2 to 3lbs and people complain about an 11 oz Nook? Sorry just cant wrap my head around it. So yes the nook is heavier than the K3 it is by no means in any way shape or form heavy. If you truely find the Nook too heavy well maybe some milk should be added to your diet because you may have some brittle bones

Being able to mail docs to the K3 is a nice feature.
Huh? IOW's "We don't except other formats besides Mobi, send it to us and wait for it to be returned" as opposed Ok epub straight to my Nook device. that I just don't get.

I don't like how shiny the touchscreen and bezel of the Nook are. I found the reflectivity to be pretty annoying.

to each his own I guess, I don't notice the reflectivity at all. Its really not an issue but I guess if some people are over the top senstive then as I said to each his own.

The K3 dictionary is easier to use (i.e. short definitions that stay on the page you're reading)

I'll give you that one but it's not like the nooks is a chore to use either and is pretty quick, you have to remember in the past you would have to stop what you were doing and go and look it up either via a computer or a personal dictionary, so it's not like the Nook's dictionary makes you have to go into some form of labor or anything like that.

I think the best thing about the Nook is that it supports epub.

and it's LCD screen