New here, please help me decide!

Dre180 · 03-13-2011, 03:22 PM

Hello All,

Im new to the forums, as well as Ebook Readers, although i have been lurking for quite some time. I've been doing too much research as usual and have been driving myself crazy because of it! Simply put, i want an E ink Ereader and i'm looking to buy it as soon as possible. i'm leaving the country next week and would like to have it with me when i travel. I have narrowed my options to what's been discussed here a million times before in the Kindle or the Nook. i like the Sony as well but i would only be looking at the 650 and no wifi is a deal breaker for me. I would really appreciate any help and feedback that you can give in oder to help me make my decision.

I've had a chance to try both and here are my pros and cons for each:

Kindle
Pros

1. The device is snappy. It just "works" and there is a lot to be said for that.
2. The Kindle is extremely lightweight
3. Amazon has terrific support and i just flat out like them as a company. I have never had any issue in any regard with them.
4. Text input is much quicker than nook
5. Dictionary that is better/quicker than the nook
6. Amazon has much better non fiction collection than B&N, and to me, the store generally has a better selection
7. Pearl E Ink screen (although recent 1.5 update makes nook much more comparable)

Cons

1. I do not always want to purchase a book so being able to check out from library is nice. ( i know there are free sources, but i'm relating more to new releases)
2. I do not like the layout of content as much as the nook
3. Having to convert Epubs with Calibre. While this is not hard it is still a minor annoyance that can be avoided with the Nook.

Nook
pros

1. EPub support. While this isn't a deal breaker it is obviously a huge factor. I don't care as much about the lending feature, (which kindle now has) but i do about library books. A key for those who don't see this as a big issue due to selection and availability, the way ebook readers are currently exploding, this can only get better. It has to...
2. I like the look of the nook better
3. Going into the store isn't a huge factor (though the perks are nice)
4. Live support in store is also a benefit, but not essential. I'm enough of a "tech geek" to troubleshoot most issues on my own

Cons

1. Touchscreen. While i like the idea of the screen it is definitely somewhat laggy, although improved with recent update. The thing i've noticed is that the lag isn't really the lcd itself it is more the interaction it has with the Eink screen. When i scroll through the lcd with the eink screen off it doesn't seem to be an issue.
2. As mentioned above, store selection. Not a huge disparity but not as broad of a selection as Amazon.
3. Pricing of Ebooks
4. Screen Resolution. Certainly not bad, just not as nice as Kindle 3.

As you can see, i've done enough research to drive myself crazy which i have

I apologize for the long post but just want to make sure i made the right decision in the end. I know it's difficult for recommendations as most people tend to recommend what they use, understandably. Thanks in advance for all the help/input!

Zarich · 03-13-2011, 04:23 PM

Going by just your cons I see no reason why you should consider a kindle. If you don't like the content layout, or the fact that you can't get library books your options are limited to the sony or nook. On top of which you can get a nook refurb for $99 that still holds a 1 year warranty. So go buy a nook and be happy.

delphin · 03-13-2011, 04:36 PM

Personally, I have family members with the Kindle, Nook, and Sony, and after having a chance to try all three, I opted for the PRS-650.

I found that the WiFi wasn't that big of deal for me, because I greatly prefer shopping for books with my portable Netbook PC, and I have seen threads where several Kindle owners chimed in to report that they also preferred to shop from a PC and just have the books delivered to the device.

There is still some benefit to the Kindle's WiFi or 3G in this scenario, because the Kindle can be anywhere in the house and will still receive the download the next time it is turned on.

It's not that big of deal though, since you have to hook up the USB port occasionally to charge the device anyway, and I find it convenient to just hook up my Sony while browsing for books with my Netbook, and that let's me both top off the battery and download my books instantly.

I nearly always have my Netbook along with me during any kind of extended travel (including the zip-up case, my Gateway Netbook is only about the size of a hardback book itself).

Even when traveling light with just my Sony and no Netbook, there is no problem because I find that I DON'T NEED TO LOAD BOOKS ON THE ROAD. Why whoud I need to, when I already have about 1250 titles loaded on my Sony at any give time? With 8 to 10 bestsellers checked out free on 3 week loans from my local library, plus tons of free public domain books available on Feedbooks, Manybooks, plus the tons of freebies available from Sony, Kobo, Borers, Google, Bean, etc. I don't lack for reading material.

I actually like the fact that I can carry a complete standalone independent library around with me, that does NOT need access to the Internet.

Personally I would reconsider the Sony, if you can find one at a reasonable price.

But since you seem to have written off the Sony, let me see if I can confuse you even more

Amazon has top notch service, and has always had freebies and other special promotions, but B&N is playing catchup in the ebook market, so they are even hungrier for business, and could potentially have even better promotions and special deals.

Day to day battery life on the Kindle is much better than Nook, but over the long term, the Nook has an easily user replaceable battery. So, if your battery life drops off as the device ages, at least it's easy to fix on the Nook, not so easy on Kindle which must be returned to Amazon (and then I have heard that you don't even get your same Kindle back).

The built in MP3 player on the Kindle is nearly useless for MP3 music playback or standard MP3 formatted audio books, but does at least support Audible's DRM protected audio books Kindle lacks support though for WMA MS DRM as used by Overdrive for many library audio books, so those would have to be converted to MP3 and would be very difficult to manage on Kindle even after conversion. (These converted MP3 audio books work poorly on Kindle due to very poor track positioning controls, which make it very difficult to find your place again if your listening session is inturrupted)

The Sony's and Nook's built in MP3 players work much better for MP3 music and audio book files, but do not work with Audible or Microsoft's DRM protected audio book titles. Library audio books that are available, or can be converted to MP3, will work quite nicely on both the Nook and Sony.

Amazon is a good source, but a SINGLE source. With the Nook or Sony you can also buy mainstream titles from Sony, Kobo, Borders, or Google's Bookstores and anyone else supporting standard Adobe Adept titles.

BOTH the Kindle and Nook get a little cumbersome to manage and slow down with thousands of titles, and are better thought of as convenient readers to carry around a few dozen titles, with a built in book store anex where you can go to get more.

In my opinion, the Sony is better at organizing large numbers of titles and acting like a stand alone personal library (which is why I went with the Sony), but refurbished WiFi Nooks at $99 dollars are also a great value and that would be my second choice.

(No need for 3G Nook, because B&N 3G doesn't work outside the U.S. but If you do decide to go with a Kindle, I would look at the Kindle 3G coverage map and consider going with the Kindle 3G, as this does gives you more options outside the U.S.)

Dre180 · 03-13-2011, 09:10 PM

Thanks for the quick responses guys, i appreciate the help. I am still on the fence with this decision...

On one hand, i love the idea of having EPub books especially down the line if i decide to get a new reader, i know they will work (aside from Kindle). i want to give the Nook a shot, but just have a feeling in the end i will feel i made a mistake, in terms of its reliability and performance. Maybe some nook owners here can chime in.

On the other hand i do see quite a few people who have moved from the nook to the kindle and have never looked back, giving it nothing but praise. I have rarely read anything negative about the kindle and it's performance aside from it's lack of Epub and library support.

Delphin, i don't want to disregard your Sony recommendation, i really don't. I have a ton of products from them in my home, including multiple HDTV's, a PS3 etc. Although i feel they are mostly overpriced there is no denying the quality (Same as apple). The make excellent products, but you pay for them. For an E Reader i'm just not sure i could justify the price. If i could, i'd almost certainly get the PRS-950, which there is still an outside chance

jbcohen · 03-13-2011, 09:31 PM

Have you considered the Etaco Jet Book Lite and a Kobo? There are a lot more readers out there then just the ones that you considered, why limit the competition that much?

jocampo · 03-13-2011, 11:13 PM

If you like or need public library books, you would need ePub, but I would stay away of a 2 years old device like Nook, with 1st gen eink screen and poor battery life; save some money and buy a Sony.

To me, the touch screen on Nook is so distracting, unresponsive and drains battery like crazy. Outdoor the touchscreen makes it difficult to read also, even when the main screen is eink, browsing and TOC is displayed on the LCD so defeats the eink screen main purpose on the ereader.

If public library books is not a most, get the Kindle. Up to 1 month of battery life, 8 oz, International support and great and huge online bookstore like Amazon.

I had a Nook, sold it and bought a Kindle, zero regrets! Same exact books on Amazon for less or same price.

FF2 · 03-14-2011, 12:44 AM

It is interesting about library books. Someone mentioned Greg Bear and SciFi. I went looking and found, surprisingly, mobi library books. They open on my kindle and they look like newer books, too, or, at least, not old. I know epub is the mainstay of libraries now but....

Dre180 · 03-14-2011, 08:48 AM

Lots of good recommendations in here, thanks! i've been reading all the other can't decide posts as well and after sleeping on it, the nook is out for me. I agree with not having the latest technology which i usually hate, but i could have lived with that, it it performed more consistently. This leaves the Kindle or a Sony reader. Not really a bad word about either in terms of their performance

Quote:

Have you considered the Etaco Jet Book Lite and a Kobo? There are a lot more readers out there then just the ones that you considered, why limit the competition that much?

I have looked at others, but have narrowed it down to these 2. i really did explore all options was just trying to keep this as simple as possible, and these were the ones that made the most sense for me...

What this really boils down to for me, is the Amazon store and Library Books. I like the idea of buying from multiple places and library checkouts, however i also like that i can go to one streamlined place (amazon) and pretty much find whatever i need. Are library books an overrated argument? Are there many new titles, and do they update the selection frequently? I know availability can be sketchy.

Also, i hear the sony store isn't in the same league as amazon. i know there are others, however if Sony had access to B&N store that would have been a major plus. With that being said, if I decided on a Sony, i would opt for the PRS -650. I probably wouldn't shop in the sony store most of the time, hence no need for Wi-Fi. If i opted for kindle i would certainly use Wi-Fi.

Last question and i will leave it at that. I know you can hack the kindle to use custom wallpapers etc. is there also a hack to view book covers instead of a list? would be an added bonus, though not a necessary one.

jocampo · 03-14-2011, 09:19 AM

Library books is not an overrated argument but more a personal choice or preference. But at the end, the kind of books that you are expecting to buy or read should be what ultimately helps with the hardware purchase.

However, Amazon selection is so big that you'll find even classics, for free or very low price.

Also, you can buy mobi books from other stores online or free non copyright classics. I'm mentioning this because people has the misconception that they are locked to Amazon and that's not true. Lot of my IT books are not from Amazon but O'reilly.

FF2 · 03-14-2011, 10:41 AM

DRE:

Check out your library's online offerings. See what kind of waiting lists exist and what format they offer. Popular offerings have waiting lists like paper books. Some large publishers do not sell ebooks to libraries for lending purposes.

And while some folks object to the suggestion, you can play with the drm on library books and read them on the kindle with some effort but not a ton of effort.

delphin · 03-14-2011, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dre180

. . . Are library books an overrated argument? Are there many new titles, and do they update the selection frequently? I know availability can be sketchy.

Also, i hear the sony store isn't in the same league as amazon. i know there are others, however if Sony had access to B&N store that would have been a major plus. With that being said, if I decided on a Sony, i would opt for the PRS -650. I probably wouldn't shop in the sony store most of the time, hence no need for Wi-Fi. If i opted for kindle i would certainly use Wi-Fi.

Last question and i will leave it at that. I know you can hack the kindle to use custom wallpapers etc. is there also a hack to view book covers instead of a list? would be an added bonus, though not a necessary one.

I love Overdrive, which is the name of the service that most public libraries use to check out ebooks.

No need to guess, I suggest find out which of your local libraries has this service available, and check it out yourself.

YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE A READER TO USE OVERDRIVE, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD AND VIEW THE BOOKS ON YOUR PC USING ADE.

Just download Adobe Digital Editions (ADE) free from Adobe.

In fact, at most libraries you don't even have to have a membership account to preview and search their overdrive selections to see what's available, because it won't make you log in until you want to actually download something.

My local library lets me have access to about 700 titles with a nice selection of best selling authors.

Remember though, this is a library, so you can't get a book if it's already checked out.

At my local library, use levels seem to be increasing, because where only about 2/3 of the titles were checked out on an average day before, these days I am lucking if 100 to 150 titles are available, and I have seen as low as 50.

This isn't as bad as you might think, because you can get on the wait-list and the server will send you an automatic email when your title is available.

You can have lots of titles wait-listed at the same time, and that way there is something new available every few days.

Just surf on over to one of your local libraries web pages and check things out.

As far a comparing the Sony Store to Amazon, remember it's not just the Sony Store, it's the Sony Store, PLUS Kobo, PLUS Borders, PLUS Google Books, because with the Nook or Sony you can buy from them as well.

Truth be told, you can do that with the Kindle as well, but you would have to mess around with DRM and format conversions, and if you are willing to do that, Amazon and B&N books will also work fine on the Sony.

This is not needed to put Kobo, Borders, or Google Books on the Sony though, because they all use Adobe ADEPT DRM and are 100% cross compatible.

So why don't you just surf over to your library, the Sony Store, Kobo, Google Books, and Borders and do some quick searches for your favorite authors, and make up your mind for yourself.

I doesn't cost anything to window shop.

OtterBooks · 03-14-2011, 01:54 PM

Library usage: Sony (edit: apparently some people use their Kindle for library use just fine, though). Otherwise Kindle imo. It's too bad B&N hasn't updated the Nook, because it was a good value in relation to the Kindle 2. Personally, I hate the touch panel, though some folks like it. Looks like someone glued a five-year old iPod to my ereader. I find it far more distracting then the keyboard.

boswd · 03-14-2011, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jocampo

If you like or need public library books, you would need ePub, but I would stay away of a 2 years old device like Nook, with 1st gen eink screen and poor battery life; save some money and buy a Sony.

To me, the touch screen on Nook is so distracting, unresponsive and drains battery like crazy. Outdoor the touchscreen makes it difficult to read also, even when the main screen is eink, browsing and TOC is displayed on the LCD so defeats the eink screen main purpose on the ereader.

If public library books is not a most, get the Kindle. Up to 1 month of battery life, 8 oz, International support and great and huge online bookstore like Amazon.

I had a Nook, sold it and bought a Kindle, zero regrets! Same exact books on Amazon for less or same price.

ahhh you just love thinking this Pearl screen is the most advance latest and greatest technology we have seen in the past decade.

reality check joey, its only a bump in contrast ratio, somethin Kindle had to build all new hardware around.

the nook accomplished this with just a little update.

Screens are on par, and yet the nook didn't have to build an entire new device, though I must admit they did have to ditch the uglyness that was the K2 so I don't exactly blame Amazon on that one.

To the OP, pay no mind to JOey he for whatever reason hates, HATES I mean he HATES Barnes and Noble, so his views are a toss, he's got an agenda against them. Trust me on this I am by far not the only one who has noticed this.

but to your question I go Nook over the kindle for many reasons

1. If you have a BN near by you take advantage of the 'more in Store" features, that gives you in store coupons, Starbucks deals, and reading any book in store etc.

2. expandable memory card slot, very usefull if you want to put audio books, music and podcast on

3. replacable battery. ( kindle your battery wears down, you have to send it in) Nook head out to the store and you are all set.

4. Nook accesories are some of if not the best out there.

5. the touchscreen, I love it, I love seeing my bookcover art and the scrolling feels more at home since i own a droid. Also you get the feel for it, the connection between the lcd and eink, once you get the feel for the flow, it becomes actually quite pleasing and enjoyabe.

I also love the page swiping option. more of a natural flow when reading as opposed to the clicking of a button. when the screen goes dark you just lightly graze your finger across the lcd screen and that turns your pages back and forth. It's nice.

6. Just a much better looking device

7. and reason you mentioned ePub and the ability to shop anywhere on the web and take advantage of many many discounted books sales, Kobo bookstore is just the best in terms of deals. and oh yeah that whole library thing.

8. in store support, if you have any questions, issues or problems.

Good luck to you

Catz2.0 · 03-14-2011, 02:15 PM

You don't sound like you really like the "feel" of the kindle. But I have owned a touchscreen e reader myself and even some of the newer ones that I've played around with do seem quite a bit laggy.

Poppaea · 03-14-2011, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catz2.0

You don't sound like you really like the "feel" of the kindle. But I have owned a touchscreen e reader myself and even some of the newer ones that I've played around with do seem quite a bit laggy.

Sonys aren't the page turn is almost instanteanous.

To the OP

Check out the Singarpore Library. It is for free has tons of ebooks, new ones and even has a lot of mobis. Problem with mobis is, you are stuck with the book for 3 weeks, no chance of an early return as you can do with Overdrive.

Personally I would never buy a Kindle. Having a push-button device (which btw looks a zillion times better than the Kindle) and a Sony with the same screen as the Kindle but has IR technology there is a world of difference in the reading experience.

Also the Sony has collections, shows the cover titels, lets you choose your screensaver freely and....

I could go on for quite a while why I would always fork out for a Sony. Here we say: The one who buys cheap buys twice. And when I have a look at the Kindle forums where they have long threads 'when will there be a touchscreen' and 'I want epub' I know this is a very true saying once again.

03-13-2011, 03:22 PM	#1
Dre180 Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NY Device: Nook (Wifi)	New here, please help me decide! Hello All, Im new to the forums, as well as Ebook Readers, although i have been lurking for quite some time. I've been doing too much research as usual and have been driving myself crazy because of it! Simply put, i want an E ink Ereader and i'm looking to buy it as soon as possible. i'm leaving the country next week and would like to have it with me when i travel. I have narrowed my options to what's been discussed here a million times before in the Kindle or the Nook. i like the Sony as well but i would only be looking at the 650 and no wifi is a deal breaker for me. I would really appreciate any help and feedback that you can give in oder to help me make my decision. I've had a chance to try both and here are my pros and cons for each: Kindle Pros 1. The device is snappy. It just "works" and there is a lot to be said for that. 2. The Kindle is extremely lightweight 3. Amazon has terrific support and i just flat out like them as a company. I have never had any issue in any regard with them. 4. Text input is much quicker than nook 5. Dictionary that is better/quicker than the nook 6. Amazon has much better non fiction collection than B&N, and to me, the store generally has a better selection 7. Pearl E Ink screen (although recent 1.5 update makes nook much more comparable) Cons 1. I do not always want to purchase a book so being able to check out from library is nice. ( i know there are free sources, but i'm relating more to new releases) 2. I do not like the layout of content as much as the nook 3. Having to convert Epubs with Calibre. While this is not hard it is still a minor annoyance that can be avoided with the Nook. Nook pros 1. EPub support. While this isn't a deal breaker it is obviously a huge factor. I don't care as much about the lending feature, (which kindle now has) but i do about library books. A key for those who don't see this as a big issue due to selection and availability, the way ebook readers are currently exploding, this can only get better. It has to... 2. I like the look of the nook better 3. Going into the store isn't a huge factor (though the perks are nice) 4. Live support in store is also a benefit, but not essential. I'm enough of a "tech geek" to troubleshoot most issues on my own Cons 1. Touchscreen. While i like the idea of the screen it is definitely somewhat laggy, although improved with recent update. The thing i've noticed is that the lag isn't really the lcd itself it is more the interaction it has with the Eink screen. When i scroll through the lcd with the eink screen off it doesn't seem to be an issue. 2. As mentioned above, store selection. Not a huge disparity but not as broad of a selection as Amazon. 3. Pricing of Ebooks 4. Screen Resolution. Certainly not bad, just not as nice as Kindle 3. As you can see, i've done enough research to drive myself crazy which i have I apologize for the long post but just want to make sure i made the right decision in the end. I know it's difficult for recommendations as most people tend to recommend what they use, understandably. Thanks in advance for all the help/input!

03-13-2011, 04:36 PM	#3
delphin Evangelist Posts: 434 Karma: 346901 Join Date: Dec 2010 Device: SONY PRS-650	Personally, I have family members with the Kindle, Nook, and Sony, and after having a chance to try all three, I opted for the PRS-650. I found that the WiFi wasn't that big of deal for me, because I greatly prefer shopping for books with my portable Netbook PC, and I have seen threads where several Kindle owners chimed in to report that they also preferred to shop from a PC and just have the books delivered to the device. There is still some benefit to the Kindle's WiFi or 3G in this scenario, because the Kindle can be anywhere in the house and will still receive the download the next time it is turned on. It's not that big of deal though, since you have to hook up the USB port occasionally to charge the device anyway, and I find it convenient to just hook up my Sony while browsing for books with my Netbook, and that let's me both top off the battery and download my books instantly. I nearly always have my Netbook along with me during any kind of extended travel (including the zip-up case, my Gateway Netbook is only about the size of a hardback book itself). Even when traveling light with just my Sony and no Netbook, there is no problem because I find that I DON'T NEED TO LOAD BOOKS ON THE ROAD. Why whoud I need to, when I already have about 1250 titles loaded on my Sony at any give time? With 8 to 10 bestsellers checked out free on 3 week loans from my local library, plus tons of free public domain books available on Feedbooks, Manybooks, plus the tons of freebies available from Sony, Kobo, Borers, Google, Bean, etc. I don't lack for reading material. I actually like the fact that I can carry a complete standalone independent library around with me, that does NOT need access to the Internet. Personally I would reconsider the Sony, if you can find one at a reasonable price. But since you seem to have written off the Sony, let me see if I can confuse you even more Amazon has top notch service, and has always had freebies and other special promotions, but B&N is playing catchup in the ebook market, so they are even hungrier for business, and could potentially have even better promotions and special deals. Day to day battery life on the Kindle is much better than Nook, but over the long term, the Nook has an easily user replaceable battery. So, if your battery life drops off as the device ages, at least it's easy to fix on the Nook, not so easy on Kindle which must be returned to Amazon (and then I have heard that you don't even get your same Kindle back). The built in MP3 player on the Kindle is nearly useless for MP3 music playback or standard MP3 formatted audio books, but does at least support Audible's DRM protected audio books Kindle lacks support though for WMA MS DRM as used by Overdrive for many library audio books, so those would have to be converted to MP3 and would be very difficult to manage on Kindle even after conversion. (These converted MP3 audio books work poorly on Kindle due to very poor track positioning controls, which make it very difficult to find your place again if your listening session is inturrupted) The Sony's and Nook's built in MP3 players work much better for MP3 music and audio book files, but do not work with Audible or Microsoft's DRM protected audio book titles. Library audio books that are available, or can be converted to MP3, will work quite nicely on both the Nook and Sony. Amazon is a good source, but a SINGLE source. With the Nook or Sony you can also buy mainstream titles from Sony, Kobo, Borders, or Google's Bookstores and anyone else supporting standard Adobe Adept titles. BOTH the Kindle and Nook get a little cumbersome to manage and slow down with thousands of titles, and are better thought of as convenient readers to carry around a few dozen titles, with a built in book store anex where you can go to get more. In my opinion, the Sony is better at organizing large numbers of titles and acting like a stand alone personal library (which is why I went with the Sony), but refurbished WiFi Nooks at $99 dollars are also a great value and that would be my second choice. (No need for 3G Nook, because B&N 3G doesn't work outside the U.S. but If you do decide to go with a Kindle, I would look at the Kindle 3G coverage map and consider going with the Kindle 3G, as this does gives you more options outside the U.S.) Last edited by delphin; 03-13-2011 at 06:43 PM.

03-13-2011, 11:13 PM	#6
jocampo Layback feline Posts: 3,034 Karma: 6980745 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Device: Oasis 2nd gen, Sony DPTS1, iPad Pro 10.5"	If you like or need public library books, you would need ePub, but I would stay away of a 2 years old device like Nook, with 1st gen eink screen and poor battery life; save some money and buy a Sony. To me, the touch screen on Nook is so distracting, unresponsive and drains battery like crazy. Outdoor the touchscreen makes it difficult to read also, even when the main screen is eink, browsing and TOC is displayed on the LCD so defeats the eink screen main purpose on the ereader. If public library books is not a most, get the Kindle. Up to 1 month of battery life, 8 oz, International support and great and huge online bookstore like Amazon. I had a Nook, sold it and bought a Kindle, zero regrets! Same exact books on Amazon for less or same price. Last edited by jocampo; 03-13-2011 at 11:15 PM.

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03-13-2011, 04:23 PM	#2
Zarich Zealot Posts: 129 Karma: 1202 Join Date: Feb 2011 Device: Kindle 3 Wi-Fi	Going by just your cons I see no reason why you should consider a kindle. If you don't like the content layout, or the fact that you can't get library books your options are limited to the sony or nook. On top of which you can get a nook refurb for $99 that still holds a 1 year warranty. So go buy a nook and be happy.

03-13-2011, 09:10 PM	#4
Dre180 Junior Member Posts: 7 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NY Device: Nook (Wifi)	Thanks for the quick responses guys, i appreciate the help. I am still on the fence with this decision... On one hand, i love the idea of having EPub books especially down the line if i decide to get a new reader, i know they will work (aside from Kindle). i want to give the Nook a shot, but just have a feeling in the end i will feel i made a mistake, in terms of its reliability and performance. Maybe some nook owners here can chime in. On the other hand i do see quite a few people who have moved from the nook to the kindle and have never looked back, giving it nothing but praise. I have rarely read anything negative about the kindle and it's performance aside from it's lack of Epub and library support. Delphin, i don't want to disregard your Sony recommendation, i really don't. I have a ton of products from them in my home, including multiple HDTV's, a PS3 etc. Although i feel they are mostly overpriced there is no denying the quality (Same as apple). The make excellent products, but you pay for them. For an E Reader i'm just not sure i could justify the price. If i could, i'd almost certainly get the PRS-950, which there is still an outside chance

03-13-2011, 09:31 PM	#5
jbcohen Wizard Posts: 3,030 Karma: 11196738 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Where am I? Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature edition and a Samsung S24 Ultra	Have you considered the Etaco Jet Book Lite and a Kobo? There are a lot more readers out there then just the ones that you considered, why limit the competition that much?

03-14-2011, 12:44 AM	#7
FF2 Wizard Posts: 1,105 Karma: 1025784 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: WiFi Kindle3	It is interesting about library books. Someone mentioned Greg Bear and SciFi. I went looking and found, surprisingly, mobi library books. They open on my kindle and they look like newer books, too, or, at least, not old. I know epub is the mainstay of libraries now but....

03-14-2011, 09:19 AM	#9
jocampo Layback feline Posts: 3,034 Karma: 6980745 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA Device: Oasis 2nd gen, Sony DPTS1, iPad Pro 10.5"	Library books is not an overrated argument but more a personal choice or preference. But at the end, the kind of books that you are expecting to buy or read should be what ultimately helps with the hardware purchase. However, Amazon selection is so big that you'll find even classics, for free or very low price. Also, you can buy mobi books from other stores online or free non copyright classics. I'm mentioning this because people has the misconception that they are locked to Amazon and that's not true. Lot of my IT books are not from Amazon but O'reilly.

03-14-2011, 10:41 AM	#10
FF2 Wizard Posts: 1,105 Karma: 1025784 Join Date: Oct 2010 Device: WiFi Kindle3	DRE: Check out your library's online offerings. See what kind of waiting lists exist and what format they offer. Popular offerings have waiting lists like paper books. Some large publishers do not sell ebooks to libraries for lending purposes. And while some folks object to the suggestion, you can play with the drm on library books and read them on the kindle with some effort but not a ton of effort.

03-14-2011, 01:54 PM	#12
OtterBooks Wizard Posts: 1,262 Karma: 2979086 Join Date: Nov 2010 Device: Kindle 4, iPad Mini/Retina	Library usage: Sony (edit: apparently some people use their Kindle for library use just fine, though). Otherwise Kindle imo. It's too bad B&N hasn't updated the Nook, because it was a good value in relation to the Kindle 2. Personally, I hate the touch panel, though some folks like it. Looks like someone glued a five-year old iPod to my ereader. I find it far more distracting then the keyboard.

03-14-2011, 02:15 PM	#14
Catz2.0 Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Florida Device: Pandigital E Reader, iPhone 4	You don't sound like you really like the "feel" of the kindle. But I have owned a touchscreen e reader myself and even some of the newer ones that I've played around with do seem quite a bit laggy.

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