KINDLE 3 Questions

tsiwt · 08-01-2010, 08:05 PM

Hi everyone, I've been waiting to buy an ebook reader for a while , the kindle 3 seems like a good buy.. but I have a couple of question--

1) All my books are PDF that I downloaded from the net, I am interested in reading these PDF's books.. DO you think the kindle 3 is a good device for reading pdfs? It is cool that you can higlight and dictionary check the pdf...
but do you think the interface /size is comfortable? This is my key question

2) someone said that with kindle your books might disappear mysteriously except the ones you buy through amazon... I don't like this, is this true? and why?

3) can I connect the kindle 3 via usb to my mac and pass th pdf files or is it all done wireless?

thanks in advance

ATDrake · 08-01-2010, 08:26 PM

1) PDFs which are not password-protected and don't have any DRM copy-restriction can be read on the Kindle. I've only a Kindle 2, which is merely okay when reading PDFs, in my experience. DX would be a better size, especially for technical stuff with diagrams, or anything with lots of pictures.

However, the new K3 is supposed to include a lot of improvements which will make PDFs easier to read and use.

When you buy a Kindle, Amazon gives you an @kindle.com address, to which you can send PDF files for conversion to the Kindle's Mobi/PRC format. This allows you to change the text size and have it read aloud with the Text to Speech function. There is a small charge because they send the results to your Kindle wirelessly.

But if you use the variant @free.kindle.com address, which forwards the converted file to your email for you to transfer yourself, then you pay no fees.

The conversion service works best with simple PDFs which are mostly text with plain formatting and not too many pictures. You can also use the free application Calibre to convert.

2) No. What happened is that Amazon did once use the wireless sync function to delete people's George Orwell books which they mistakenly sold in the wrong region, where a different publisher held the distribution rights, and automatically credited a refund to their accounts.

However, the uproar was such that they ended up giving the affected customers bonus gift certificates and promised never to do it again.

They can't delete your non-Amazon books without seriously going out of their way to basically break into your personal Kindle and then sending something to wipe the contents of the documents folder.

If you have any concerns, just keep the wireless off most of the time. It drains the battery, anyway.

3) Yes. I have a Mac and it's as easy as plugging the Kindle in, waiting for the icon to show up on the desktop, dragging and dropping the files, and ejecting it again.

Don't do it via wireless. You can email your documents directly to the Kindle, but they charge a fee for that, and if you live outside the US, they charge even more.

Hope this helps.

tsiwt · 08-01-2010, 08:41 PM

Yes that is perfect, I am going to buy it right now

Alisa · 08-01-2010, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATDrake

1) PDFs which are not password-protected and don't have any DRM copy-restriction can be read on the Kindle.

I believe they added support for password-protected PDFs in the Kindle 3. I don't know if that will come as a firmware update to the K2 and DX but I wouldn't be surprised.

SteveEisenberg · 08-01-2010, 10:49 PM

Check out this video which is, I believe, produced by the company that does the core Kindle engineering:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=377FAHnR3WI

Question: Does the 3G Kindle 3rd generation I pre-ordered this morning have the stupendous crack-resistant screen shown in the video?

If so, maybe I should cancel the rather over-priced $35 case I pre-ordered with my Kindle, and just use some simple soft protection to guard against scratches.

ProfCrash · 08-01-2010, 11:36 PM

I find that the DXG is too thin for me to hold comfortably. The cover I bought adds the thickness I prefer for reading.

I have heard stories of people sitting on Kindles, dogs sitting on Kindles, that type of thing. I wouldn't risk my Kindle out of a cover, but that is me.

clintbradford · 08-02-2010, 01:36 AM

>> ... Does the 3G Kindle 3rd generation I pre-ordered this morning have the stupendous crack-resistant screen shown in the video?

At its price point, I would NOT expect the US$139 Kindle to have that screen.

If you think $35 is "over-priced" for a protective case - just wait 'till you accidentally sit on your eReader or drop it onto concrets or some other such disaster. Thirty-five bucks is not outrageous, IMHO, for protection. PLUS, of course, a $20 InvisibleShield screen protector.

ProfCrash · 08-02-2010, 10:10 AM

hehehe $35 is cheap compared to my Oberon's.

mrExtreme · 08-02-2010, 09:54 PM

How to Upload my own PDF into Kindle and read on it, without sending email to Amazon? Is that possible?

carld · 08-02-2010, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrExtreme

How to Upload my own PDF into Kindle and read on it, without sending email to Amazon? Is that possible?

Easy, plug your Kindle into the provided USB cable and copy the file over to your Kindle's Document folder manually. I suspect, but don't know, that once the K3 comes out you'll be able to email your files for free as long as you connect via wi-fi.

fjtorres · 08-02-2010, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carld

I suspect, but don't know, that once the K3 comes out you'll be able to email your files for free as long as you connect via wi-fi.

That has been confirmed.
http://kindleworld.blogspot.com/2010...dle-3-pdf.html

colleenaustralia · 08-02-2010, 10:28 PM

If you use the download freely available 'microsoft reader' or the older 'microsoft creator' software then when you import a pdf to it,then it can be saved as the file format that will be recognized by the Kindle. I do this all the time.

carld · 08-02-2010, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fjtorres

That has been confirmed.
http://kindleworld.blogspot.com/2010...dle-3-pdf.html

That's excellent, thank you.

Alisa · 08-03-2010, 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colleenaustralia

If you use the download freely available 'microsoft reader' or the older 'microsoft creator' software then when you import a pdf to it,then it can be saved as the file format that will be recognized by the Kindle. I do this all the time.

The Kindle now natively reads PDF.

fjtorres · 08-03-2010, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colleenaustralia

If you use the download freely available 'microsoft reader' or the older 'microsoft creator' software then when you import a pdf to it,then it can be saved as the file format that will be recognized by the Kindle. I do this all the time.

That would be *Mobipocket* Creator, not Microsoft.

http://www.mobipocket.com/en/Downloa...ilsCreator.asp

But yes, Mobi creator is one of the few tools that does a decent job of extracting good content out of the roach motel PDF format. Worth noting that in converting (mostly-text) PDFs to Mobipocket format (which Kindle reads natively) it also leaves behind a clean HTML version of the document.

Also, note that at installation time, Mobi Creator can be installed as the "home Edition" or the "publisher edition". The Publisher installation is the one that allows PDF input.

And, finally; as pointed out, Kindle natively reads DRM-free PDFs. But like all pdf readers, some PDFs can be suboptimal on a 6" screen. Hence, Mobi Creator.

08-01-2010, 08:05 PM	#1
tsiwt Member Posts: 11 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: none	KINDLE 3 Questions Hi everyone, I've been waiting to buy an ebook reader for a while , the kindle 3 seems like a good buy.. but I have a couple of question-- 1) All my books are PDF that I downloaded from the net, I am interested in reading these PDF's books.. DO you think the kindle 3 is a good device for reading pdfs? It is cool that you can higlight and dictionary check the pdf... but do you think the interface /size is comfortable? This is my key question 2) someone said that with kindle your books might disappear mysteriously except the ones you buy through amazon... I don't like this, is this true? and why? 3) can I connect the kindle 3 via usb to my mac and pass th pdf files or is it all done wireless? thanks in advance

08-01-2010, 08:41 PM	#3
tsiwt Member Posts: 11 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2010 Device: none	thanks Yes that is perfect, I am going to buy it right now

08-01-2010, 10:49 PM	#5
SteveEisenberg Grand Sorcerer Posts: 7,459 Karma: 44114178 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: near Philadelphia USA Device: Kindle Kids Edition, Fire HD 10 (11th generation)	Another Kindle 3 Question Check out this video which is, I believe, produced by the company that does the core Kindle engineering: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=377FAHnR3WI Question: Does the 3G Kindle 3rd generation I pre-ordered this morning have the stupendous crack-resistant screen shown in the video? If so, maybe I should cancel the rather over-priced $35 case I pre-ordered with my Kindle, and just use some simple soft protection to guard against scratches.

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08-01-2010, 08:26 PM	#2
ATDrake Wizzard Posts: 11,517 Karma: 33048258 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Roundworld Device: Kindle 2 International, Sony PRS-T1, BlackBerry PlayBook, Acer Iconia	1) PDFs which are not password-protected and don't have any DRM copy-restriction can be read on the Kindle. I've only a Kindle 2, which is merely okay when reading PDFs, in my experience. DX would be a better size, especially for technical stuff with diagrams, or anything with lots of pictures. However, the new K3 is supposed to include a lot of improvements which will make PDFs easier to read and use. When you buy a Kindle, Amazon gives you an @kindle.com address, to which you can send PDF files for conversion to the Kindle's Mobi/PRC format. This allows you to change the text size and have it read aloud with the Text to Speech function. There is a small charge because they send the results to your Kindle wirelessly. But if you use the variant @free.kindle.com address, which forwards the converted file to your email for you to transfer yourself, then you pay no fees. The conversion service works best with simple PDFs which are mostly text with plain formatting and not too many pictures. You can also use the free application Calibre to convert. 2) No. What happened is that Amazon did once use the wireless sync function to delete people's George Orwell books which they mistakenly sold in the wrong region, where a different publisher held the distribution rights, and automatically credited a refund to their accounts. However, the uproar was such that they ended up giving the affected customers bonus gift certificates and promised never to do it again. They can't delete your non-Amazon books without seriously going out of their way to basically break into your personal Kindle and then sending something to wipe the contents of the documents folder. If you have any concerns, just keep the wireless off most of the time. It drains the battery, anyway. 3) Yes. I have a Mac and it's as easy as plugging the Kindle in, waiting for the icon to show up on the desktop, dragging and dropping the files, and ejecting it again. Don't do it via wireless. You can email your documents directly to the Kindle, but they charge a fee for that, and if you live outside the US, they charge even more. Hope this helps.

08-01-2010, 11:36 PM	#6
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	I find that the DXG is too thin for me to hold comfortably. The cover I bought adds the thickness I prefer for reading. I have heard stories of people sitting on Kindles, dogs sitting on Kindles, that type of thing. I wouldn't risk my Kindle out of a cover, but that is me.

08-02-2010, 01:36 AM	#7
clintbradford Older ... slower ... Posts: 450 Karma: 1924 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Jurupa Valley CA US Device: Kobo, Kindles 2/3/Keyboard/Fire/Fire HD, HDX.	>> ... Does the 3G Kindle 3rd generation I pre-ordered this morning have the stupendous crack-resistant screen shown in the video? At its price point, I would NOT expect the US$139 Kindle to have that screen. If you think $35 is "over-priced" for a protective case - just wait 'till you accidentally sit on your eReader or drop it onto concrets or some other such disaster. Thirty-five bucks is not outrageous, IMHO, for protection. PLUS, of course, a $20 InvisibleShield screen protector.

08-02-2010, 10:10 AM	#8
ProfCrash Tea Enthusiast Posts: 8,554 Karma: 75384937 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Somewhere in the USA Device: Kindle1, Kindle DX Graphite, K3 3G, IPad 3, PW2	hehehe $35 is cheap compared to my Oberon's.

08-02-2010, 09:54 PM	#9
mrExtreme Member Posts: 10 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Device: Kindle 3	How to Upload my own PDF into Kindle and read on it, without sending email to Amazon? Is that possible?

08-02-2010, 10:28 PM	#12
colleenaustralia Junior Member Posts: 1 Karma: 10 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Australia Device: none	If you use the download freely available 'microsoft reader' or the older 'microsoft creator' software then when you import a pdf to it,then it can be saved as the file format that will be recognized by the Kindle. I do this all the time.

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