Did you know that non-fiction is denser than fiction?

Ea · 05-22-2010, 03:20 PM

I am moving next weekend, but since I'll be busy next week, I already started packing. I've packed up most of my books today. I found out that small size moving boxes was the answer - usually I've just spread a thin layer of books in all my moving boxes, but this time I got the feeling there'd be too few boxes all in all if I did that. I've been going through my things and it's been a pleasant surprise to discover that I don't own as much "stuff" as I feared. Only books....

Anyway, I can fill a box with fiction books, and it'll be heavy, but not unmanageably heavy. With non-fiction, I've had to stop when it's filled about 2/3-3/4. And it's not that my fiction books are all small, light-weight, mass-market paperbacks - most of them are not - but non-fiction books are apparently overall denser and thus heavier. And I've got perhaps 2/3 non-fiction to 1/3 part fiction books.

I can't wait till this is over.

GA Russell · 05-22-2010, 03:29 PM

It sounds like your non-fiction books have better paper.

Ea · 05-22-2010, 03:48 PM

Very probably

Though one can imagine that it's all the intellect behind the words on the paper that is weighing down the books

Apparently story-telling is more light-weight.

dreams · 05-22-2010, 05:04 PM

My family calls fiction, "fluff". Now, I know why.

Ea · 05-22-2010, 05:08 PM

Well, at the moment I sincerely wish the fluff-to-seriousdenseness relationship were a bit... different in my home than it is.

dreams · 05-22-2010, 05:48 PM

I hope the move is a good thing and you don't have too much disruption. I paid the movers to transport all my books when my son and I moved. Of course, when I saw what the estimate was for the books, we sold quite a few of them.

neilmarr · 05-23-2010, 04:32 AM

Thank ye gods for ebooks. Neil

GeoffC · 05-23-2010, 04:37 AM

experience, knowledge and ideas are heavy

beppe · 05-23-2010, 06:08 AM

and at the same time they elevate the spirit ...

This brings us right in the middle of Pataphysics. A link? why not. No better a list of the giants on whose shoulders we stand:

Hippocrates of Chios
Sophrotatos the Armenian
Alfred Jarry
Raymond Queneau
Eugene Ionesco
Boris Vian (Considering Boris Vian a giant is a true pataphysical assertion)

just to name a few

kennyc · 05-23-2010, 07:55 AM

One reason I hate moving is my "library." Yes the small boxes are best for books otherwise they become heavy and unwieldy.

Good Luck with the move!

Ea · 05-23-2010, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreams

I hope the move is a good thing and you don't have too much disruption. I paid the movers to transport all my books when my son and I moved. Of course, when I saw what the estimate was for the books, we sold quite a few of them.

It's fine, I'm looking forward to it. It's just that it's nine years since I moved last time and I'm completely out of practice. Plus I've acquired a number of things since then. Apparently especially books *sigh*

Ea · 05-23-2010, 10:42 AM

Just weighed a particularly heavy one; The Art of East Asia. 6 kg!

But I think my IKEA catalogue collection is close on its heels, weight-wise.

Ea · 05-30-2010, 05:47 PM

Everything's in now, my family has left, and I'm going to bed (it's a quarter to twelve). It's SO quiet here (wonderful!) Wish I didn't have school tomorrow

But I can sleep in Tuesday. And sort stuff out. I finally found my shoes, but my make-up is still missing. Now I just need to figure out what bus to take tomorrow.

GeoffC · 05-31-2010, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ea

Everything's in now, my family has left, and I'm going to bed (it's a quarter to twelve). It's SO quiet here (wonderful!) Wish I didn't have school tomorrow

But I can sleep in Tuesday. And sort stuff out. I finally found my shoes, but my make-up is still missing. Now I just need to figure out what bus to take tomorrow.

That's everything packed ?

So the reverse process will be less painful ?

Ea · 05-31-2010, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffC

That's everything packed ?

Everything's packed, moved, and inside my new apartment

(sorry if it wasn't clear)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoffC

So the reverse process will be less painful ?

Well... Define painful

It takes time to pack because there's all the clutter to clear up at the end, but then it also takes a lot of time to put things away finally - and put up things like shelves, lamps, curtain rods, towel holders, etc. That's a great time to have a man in one's life

Unfortunately both my brother and my father are aware I am fully capable of doing such things on my own and will tell me so* - but I don't like doing it. I just put up a light-blocking blind in my bedroom - almost took an hour - once was enough. Though break of dawn at 4.00-3.30 AM is enough as well...

I hate waking early in the summer - you'd know, I think.

*they'll help if I look helpless enough *lol*

05-22-2010, 03:20 PM	#1
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Did you know that non-fiction is denser than fiction? I am moving next weekend, but since I'll be busy next week, I already started packing. I've packed up most of my books today. I found out that small size moving boxes was the answer - usually I've just spread a thin layer of books in all my moving boxes, but this time I got the feeling there'd be too few boxes all in all if I did that. I've been going through my things and it's been a pleasant surprise to discover that I don't own as much "stuff" as I feared. Only books.... Anyway, I can fill a box with fiction books, and it'll be heavy, but not unmanageably heavy. With non-fiction, I've had to stop when it's filled about 2/3-3/4. And it's not that my fiction books are all small, light-weight, mass-market paperbacks - most of them are not - but non-fiction books are apparently overall denser and thus heavier. And I've got perhaps 2/3 non-fiction to 1/3 part fiction books. I can't wait till this is over.

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05-22-2010, 03:29 PM	#2
GA Russell Argos win Grey Cup! Posts: 7,673 Karma: 31487351 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC Device: Paperwhite, Kindles 10 & 4 and jetBook Lite	It sounds like your non-fiction books have better paper.

05-22-2010, 03:48 PM	#3
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Very probably Though one can imagine that it's all the intellect behind the words on the paper that is weighing down the books Apparently story-telling is more light-weight.

05-22-2010, 05:04 PM	#4
dreams It's about the umbrella Posts: 25,110 Karma: 56250158 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Sony 505\| K Fire \| KK 3G+Wi-Fi \| iPhone 3Gs \|Vista 32-bit Hm Prem w/FF	My family calls fiction, "fluff". Now, I know why.

05-22-2010, 05:08 PM	#5
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Well, at the moment I sincerely wish the fluff-to-seriousdenseness relationship were a bit... different in my home than it is.

05-22-2010, 05:48 PM	#6
dreams It's about the umbrella Posts: 25,110 Karma: 56250158 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Sony 505\| K Fire \| KK 3G+Wi-Fi \| iPhone 3Gs \|Vista 32-bit Hm Prem w/FF	I hope the move is a good thing and you don't have too much disruption. I paid the movers to transport all my books when my son and I moved. Of course, when I saw what the estimate was for the books, we sold quite a few of them.

05-23-2010, 04:32 AM	#7
neilmarr neilmarr Posts: 7,215 Karma: 6000059 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Monaco-Menton, France Device: sony	Thank ye gods for ebooks. Neil

05-23-2010, 04:37 AM	#8
GeoffC Chocolate Grasshopper ... Posts: 27,599 Karma: 20821184 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Scotland Device: Muse HD , Cybook Gen3 , Pocketbook 302 (Black) , Nexus 10: wife has PW	experience, knowledge and ideas are heavy

05-23-2010, 06:08 AM	#9
beppe Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,161 Karma: 81026524 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Italy Device: Kindle3, Ipod4, IPad2	and at the same time they elevate the spirit ... This brings us right in the middle of Pataphysics. A link? why not. No better a list of the giants on whose shoulders we stand: Hippocrates of Chios Sophrotatos the Armenian Alfred Jarry Raymond Queneau Eugene Ionesco Boris Vian (Considering Boris Vian a giant is a true pataphysical assertion) just to name a few

05-23-2010, 07:55 AM	#10
kennyc The Dank Side of the Moon Posts: 35,891 Karma: 119230421 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Denver, CO Device: Kindle2; Kindle Fire	One reason I hate moving is my "library." Yes the small boxes are best for books otherwise they become heavy and unwieldy. Good Luck with the move!

05-23-2010, 10:42 AM	#12
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Just weighed a particularly heavy one; The Art of East Asia. 6 kg! But I think my IKEA catalogue collection is close on its heels, weight-wise.

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05-30-2010, 05:47 PM	#13
Ea Wizard Posts: 3,490 Karma: 5239563 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Denmark Device: Kindle 3\|iPad air\|iPhone 4S	Everything's in now, my family has left, and I'm going to bed (it's a quarter to twelve). It's SO quiet here (wonderful!) Wish I didn't have school tomorrow But I can sleep in Tuesday. And sort stuff out. I finally found my shoes, but my make-up is still missing. Now I just need to figure out what bus to take tomorrow.