Renegade Formatting

Ron46 · 02-19-2010, 09:45 PM

If I load a plain .txt file on my Jetbook Lite with nothing (I repeat, nothing) but plain text (not even tab characters), the file displays on the reader with indents wherever the text looks like a numbered list and other formatting that is not in the plain text file (whether it be ASCII, UTF 8, ISO 8858-1 etc).

I have examined the text with various editors, and there is nothing in these files that would instruct the reader to do this. I am currently working on a file where I want all the text to line up on the left without indents and cannot do it. The files display as written on all editors but take on a life of their own in the Jetbook.

Does anyone have any idea how the reader is doing this and how to make it STOP?

greenapple · 02-19-2010, 10:33 PM

Your text contains line breaks (not usually shown on text pad, or shown by default on Word).

You could try a site like http://www.textfixer.com/tools/remove-line-breaks.php
or remove the line breaks with search and replace with a text editor.

cmbs · 02-20-2010, 12:05 AM

I also have a jetbook lite and I can tell you it also ignores/reformats both mobi and epub to suit itself, it does not display the formatting that's really in the file. I wish they'd fix that.

Ron46 · 02-21-2010, 01:05 PM

CMBS- thanks for the validation. I have had people tell me this behavior is not possible- that there must be something in the file I am overlooking. Nope!

Ectaco recommends using txt files for public domain (Gutenberg) files when that is all you need, but the reader does not honor the basic text file and imposes it's own formatting. I have tried everything, including totally reformatting the reader and reinstalling the firmware then running it without an SD card. The problem is imbedded in the machine.

cmbs · 02-21-2010, 02:59 PM

Yep. I hate that. It's like they don't think we can format books good enough, they're going to do it for us. But in fact one time there was an epub that wouldn't open in ADE. The epub file had over 3,000 errors. But someone with Stanza could read it because Stanza rewrites a lot of the formatting code. Because he could read it on Stanza, this guy thought his ebook was fine!

Maybe they could offer a choice of them rewriting the formatting or not.

GhostHawk · 02-21-2010, 03:13 PM

Ron have you tried downloading that same book in an RTF format?

I tend to use manybooks.net simply because it lets me choose the format.
I find I prefer the rtf to most others.
Although generally formatting doesn't upset my applecart.

02-19-2010, 09:45 PM	#1
Ron46 Zealot Posts: 103 Karma: 110 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Massachusetts Device: JetbookLite, EB-1150, PalmIIIXE	Renegade Formatting If I load a plain .txt file on my Jetbook Lite with nothing (I repeat, nothing) but plain text (not even tab characters), the file displays on the reader with indents wherever the text looks like a numbered list and other formatting that is not in the plain text file (whether it be ASCII, UTF 8, ISO 8858-1 etc). I have examined the text with various editors, and there is nothing in these files that would instruct the reader to do this. I am currently working on a file where I want all the text to line up on the left without indents and cannot do it. The files display as written on all editors but take on a life of their own in the Jetbook. Does anyone have any idea how the reader is doing this and how to make it STOP? Last edited by Ron46; 02-19-2010 at 09:46 PM. Reason: format

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02-19-2010, 10:33 PM	#2
greenapple Evangelist Posts: 404 Karma: 664 Join Date: Dec 2009 Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Kindle DX, Kobo Aura HD	Your text contains line breaks (not usually shown on text pad, or shown by default on Word). You could try a site like http://www.textfixer.com/tools/remove-line-breaks.php or remove the line breaks with search and replace with a text editor.

02-20-2010, 12:05 AM	#3
cmbs non-believer Posts: 384 Karma: 713 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Device: Cybook Gen 3, JetBook Lite	I also have a jetbook lite and I can tell you it also ignores/reformats both mobi and epub to suit itself, it does not display the formatting that's really in the file. I wish they'd fix that.

02-21-2010, 01:05 PM	#4
Ron46 Zealot Posts: 103 Karma: 110 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Massachusetts Device: JetbookLite, EB-1150, PalmIIIXE	CMBS- thanks for the validation. I have had people tell me this behavior is not possible- that there must be something in the file I am overlooking. Nope! Ectaco recommends using txt files for public domain (Gutenberg) files when that is all you need, but the reader does not honor the basic text file and imposes it's own formatting. I have tried everything, including totally reformatting the reader and reinstalling the firmware then running it without an SD card. The problem is imbedded in the machine.

02-21-2010, 02:59 PM	#5
cmbs non-believer Posts: 384 Karma: 713 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA Device: Cybook Gen 3, JetBook Lite	Yep. I hate that. It's like they don't think we can format books good enough, they're going to do it for us. But in fact one time there was an epub that wouldn't open in ADE. The epub file had over 3,000 errors. But someone with Stanza could read it because Stanza rewrites a lot of the formatting code. Because he could read it on Stanza, this guy thought his ebook was fine! Maybe they could offer a choice of them rewriting the formatting or not.

02-21-2010, 03:13 PM	#6
GhostHawk Data Privateer! Posts: 586 Karma: 62887 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fargo ND Device: Ectaco Jetbook& Jetbook Lite	Ron have you tried downloading that same book in an RTF format? I tend to use manybooks.net simply because it lets me choose the format. I find I prefer the rtf to most others. Although generally formatting doesn't upset my applecart.

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