Editorial - The Palm Experience on Windows Mobile

Bob Russell · 09-26-2005, 03:21 PM

Direct from the Palm Inc press release announcing the Windows Mobile Treo Smartphone, we read "The Palm Experience on Windows Mobile... the companies demonstrated the Palm experience now brought to life on Windows Mobile."

Sure, I know very well that Palm Inc bought out the rights to the name Palm. And I believe that Palm Inc will bring added value to Windows Mobile. But did they really buy the right to claim the Palm experience is being brought to Windows Mobile? Clearly, the Palm experience implies the PalmOS experience, not the Palm, Inc additional features for the Treo. It's deceptive. And clearly they are trying to use the name to twist the meaning.

Maybe they earned the right to use that phrase in that manner, and I have nothing against Windows Mobile, but that martketing phrase sure rubs me the wrong way.

Laurens · 09-26-2005, 03:34 PM

As you say, the "Palm experience" is just a marketing slogan. As such, you should take not take it literally.

MrSaint · 09-26-2005, 03:46 PM

Palm, better get back on track with Palm OS, or you'll lose!

By offering your one and only successful product equipped with Windows Mobile, you make yourself vulnerable to all the competitors in the Windows Mobile market. Until now, you stood by yourself - Tapwave & Co were just small side players along the way. Now you have Dell, HP, and all the other heavyweights of the WM world against you... and trust me, they won't go easy on you or your one-product innovation.

The "Palm Experience" is lost when the last PalmOS device hits the market.

Laurens · 09-26-2005, 03:49 PM

The banners on the site say "Palm smartphone experience".

Jimmie Geddes · 09-26-2005, 08:01 PM

I am an Associate Writer for PalmAddict, and have my own site. I just posted how much I agree with your editorial, but this isn't really to "rub us"

. Here's my link:
http://www.gadgetsonthego.net/2005/0...n-windows.html

Jimmie Geddes · 09-26-2005, 08:06 PM

Great story by the way. You said what I was thinking all day

Jimmie Geddes · 09-26-2005, 08:36 PM

Just posted it on PalmAddict as well.
http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmad...e_palm_ex.html

MrSaint · 09-26-2005, 09:07 PM

Jimmie I just read your editorial, and I agree with what you and Bob said. However, when you say:

...why do you think Ed Colligan made it clear today that the "Treo for Windows" is just an extension, Palm is committed to the Palm Treo,

there is one important thing to keep in mind: Palm's commitment to stick to Palm OS is very much dependent on PalmSource's ability, or willingness (with Access as its new owner), to deliver upgrades for PalmOS. Sure, Palm has done its own tweaks here and there (as apparent in a buggy LifeDrive), but for a major upgrade to a modern mobile OS, Palm needs PalmSource - or switch over to Windows Mobile. It won't have the time and resource to develop its own OS from scratch.

Jimmie Geddes · 09-26-2005, 10:04 PM

I agree with you as well, I am hoping Palm OS for Linux comes to fruition. This is just Palm "buying" time.

derekweb · 10-04-2005, 02:04 PM

Is it, though? What are they buying time for?

Personally, I think that Palm is thinking that the only way to survive is to get into the corporate market. Take most popular handheld, bar none, add WM to it (which for some silly reason Microsoft is the preferred mobile solution,... got me as to why, no logical reason there), and viola! You have a very potent, potential mix that MIGHT "save the day" in terms of corporate sales.

Personally, I think it's going to be a nightmare especially if they start making their hardware (especially phone hybrids) with multiple OSs. That will mean that Sprint, Cingular, and others will have to quality check and test EACH version that is released. I'd lay bets that they won't even come close to offering BOTH OSs if a Treo like that were released. One will lose, right off the bat.

This simply reminds me of the process used to get Fish home and into your home fishtank vs the petstore fish tank. Sudden shocks will kill the fish. By slowly letting them acclimate to small changes, they're better able to survive.

I'm really curious if this is the long term plan for Palm, stated or otherwise.

09-26-2005, 03:21 PM	#1
Bob Russell Recovering Gadget Addict Posts: 5,381 Karma: 676161 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Device: iPad	Editorial - The Palm Experience on Windows Mobile Direct from the Palm Inc press release announcing the Windows Mobile Treo Smartphone, we read "The Palm Experience on Windows Mobile... the companies demonstrated the Palm experience now brought to life on Windows Mobile." Sure, I know very well that Palm Inc bought out the rights to the name Palm. And I believe that Palm Inc will bring added value to Windows Mobile. But did they really buy the right to claim the Palm experience is being brought to Windows Mobile? Clearly, the Palm experience implies the PalmOS experience, not the Palm, Inc additional features for the Treo. It's deceptive. And clearly they are trying to use the name to twist the meaning. Maybe they earned the right to use that phrase in that manner, and I have nothing against Windows Mobile, but that martketing phrase sure rubs me the wrong way.

09-26-2005, 08:01 PM	#5
Jimmie Geddes Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2005 Device: Sprint Treo 650	I am an Associate Writer for PalmAddict, and have my own site. I just posted how much I agree with your editorial, but this isn't really to "rub us". Here's my link: http://www.gadgetsonthego.net/2005/0...n-windows.html

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09-26-2005, 03:34 PM	#2
Laurens Jah Blessed Posts: 1,295 Karma: 1373 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Netherlands Device: iPod Touch	As you say, the "Palm experience" is just a marketing slogan. As such, you should take not take it literally.

09-26-2005, 03:46 PM	#3
MrSaint Little Computer Guy Posts: 73 Karma: 2466 Join Date: Aug 2005 Device: Treo 650 + iPaq	Palm, better get back on track with Palm OS, or you'll lose! By offering your one and only successful product equipped with Windows Mobile, you make yourself vulnerable to all the competitors in the Windows Mobile market. Until now, you stood by yourself - Tapwave & Co were just small side players along the way. Now you have Dell, HP, and all the other heavyweights of the WM world against you... and trust me, they won't go easy on you or your one-product innovation. The "Palm Experience" is lost when the last PalmOS device hits the market.

09-26-2005, 03:49 PM	#4
Laurens Jah Blessed Posts: 1,295 Karma: 1373 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The Netherlands Device: iPod Touch	The banners on the site say "Palm smartphone experience".

09-26-2005, 08:06 PM	#6
Jimmie Geddes Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2005 Device: Sprint Treo 650	Great story by the way. You said what I was thinking all day

09-26-2005, 08:36 PM	#7
Jimmie Geddes Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2005 Device: Sprint Treo 650	Just posted it on PalmAddict as well. http://palmaddict.typepad.com/palmad...e_palm_ex.html

09-26-2005, 09:07 PM	#8
MrSaint Little Computer Guy Posts: 73 Karma: 2466 Join Date: Aug 2005 Device: Treo 650 + iPaq	Jimmie I just read your editorial, and I agree with what you and Bob said. However, when you say: ...why do you think Ed Colligan made it clear today that the "Treo for Windows" is just an extension, Palm is committed to the Palm Treo, there is one important thing to keep in mind: Palm's commitment to stick to Palm OS is very much dependent on PalmSource's ability, or willingness (with Access as its new owner), to deliver upgrades for PalmOS. Sure, Palm has done its own tweaks here and there (as apparent in a buggy LifeDrive), but for a major upgrade to a modern mobile OS, Palm needs PalmSource - or switch over to Windows Mobile. It won't have the time and resource to develop its own OS from scratch.

09-26-2005, 10:04 PM	#9
Jimmie Geddes Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2005 Device: Sprint Treo 650	I agree with you as well, I am hoping Palm OS for Linux comes to fruition. This is just Palm "buying" time.

10-04-2005, 02:04 PM	#10
derekweb Groupie Posts: 160 Karma: 3134 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: United States Device: Palm Treo 700p & iPaq hx2755	Is it, though? What are they buying time for? Personally, I think that Palm is thinking that the only way to survive is to get into the corporate market. Take most popular handheld, bar none, add WM to it (which for some silly reason Microsoft is the preferred mobile solution,... got me as to why, no logical reason there), and viola! You have a very potent, potential mix that MIGHT "save the day" in terms of corporate sales. Personally, I think it's going to be a nightmare especially if they start making their hardware (especially phone hybrids) with multiple OSs. That will mean that Sprint, Cingular, and others will have to quality check and test EACH version that is released. I'd lay bets that they won't even come close to offering BOTH OSs if a Treo like that were released. One will lose, right off the bat. This simply reminds me of the process used to get Fish home and into your home fishtank vs the petstore fish tank. Sudden shocks will kill the fish. By slowly letting them acclimate to small changes, they're better able to survive. I'm really curious if this is the long term plan for Palm, stated or otherwise.

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