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Old 03-22-2009, 11:45 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Hitler's 'Mein Kampf' a brief Kindle best seller

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Yes, Sony and Google have teamed up to offer 500,000 free e-books on the Sony Reader. Free is nice, and half a million is an impressive number, but lots of free and cheap e-books can wreak havoc on your database and best-seller lists--just ask Amazon.com, which found itself with Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" briefly sitting atop its best-seller list for legal thrillers in the Kindle Store, experienced earlier Thursday.
As always, the headline is splashier than the acutal facts. It was #1 in *legal thrillers* for all of a few minutes. Still it was an excuse for someone to write an article about Kindle pricing in general.
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:28 AM   #2
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How did it end up in "legal thrillers," of all places?

I suppose it being #1, says a lot about just how bad the writing of John Grisham can be
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Old 03-23-2009, 12:55 AM   #3
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I'm not surprised that it would be a best seller considering that Hitler has to be one of the most historically significant individuals. If people are reading it to try and understand how someone could become so evil it is probably a good thing. I'm more concerned that Mein Kampf has a 3.5 star rating on Amazon and almost half the reviews give it 5 stars.
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Old 03-23-2009, 01:15 AM   #4
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Deputy-Dawg has already uploaded an LRF version into our library, and the book has long been freely available at PG Australia.
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Old 03-23-2009, 04:18 AM   #5
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I have a printed edition of it and find it virtually unreadable. Half fictitious autobiography; half poorly-written political rant.
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Old 03-23-2009, 04:41 AM   #6
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AFAIK the copyright for "Mein kampf" is still owned by the land of Bavaria, which forbids its publication; all present copies are illegal...
And it's a bucketful of sh*t and slander that makes you want to puke.
(next we'll have to explain __again__ that the 'protocol of the elders of Zion' is a XIXth century Russian hoax )
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Old 03-23-2009, 04:51 AM   #7
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I don't see how reading a book can be illegal. How else can we learn from somebody else's mistakes? Naturally, a person should be able to put a story in perspective, but isn't that the same with every book?
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Old 03-23-2009, 04:58 AM   #8
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AFAIK the copyright for "Mein kampf" is still owned by the land of Bavaria, which forbids its publication; all present copies are illegal...
It is illegal to publish it in Germany. Certainly not elsewhere.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:18 AM   #9
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AFAIK the copyright for "Mein kampf" is still owned by the land of Bavaria, which forbids its publication; all present copies are illegal...
I thought so, too. Indeed the copyright´s owned by the Free State of Bavaria, because Hitler lived in Munich before his death. BUT that only preserves re-prints in Germany. Since Germany´s a "life plus 70 country" the copyright will expire 2015, 70 years after Hitler´s death.
Not all present copies are illegal: Publications are allowed in the US and UK, some Swedish and Turkish publishers re-printed it, but were stopped by interim order.
In Germany, it´s legal to own the book and to sell or buy antiquarian versions of it.

I don´t think it´s unreadable, btw (at least not the original version, maybe the English translation is). I still think it is (or can be) a dangerous book if it gets into the hands of someone (especially young people) with extreme tendencies.

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Old 03-23-2009, 05:33 AM   #10
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[....]Indeed the copyright´s owned by the Free State of Bavaria,[....]. BUT that only preserves re-prints in Germany. Since Germany´s a "life plus 70 country" the copyright will expire 2015, 70 years after Hitler´s death.
Not all present copies are illegal: Publications are allowed in the US and UK, some Swedish and Turkish publishers re-printed it, but were stopped by interim order.
In Germany, it´s legal to own the book and to sell or buy antiquarian versions of it.
Thanks for the point.
I think it's illegal in France too (not that you would have any trouble finding it..).
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:40 AM   #11
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Old 03-23-2009, 07:42 AM   #12
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I still think it is (or can be) a dangerous book if it gets into the hands of someone (especially young people) with right wring tendencies.
I think a lot of books/movies/games are. That's why education is so very important. You need something to put it into perspective. But, to just say you aren't allowed to read it, I think you will make it more interesting for those people you didn't want it to read in the first place, to read it.
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Old 03-23-2009, 03:17 PM   #13
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Since making a reference to Hitler or the Nazis is suppose to be the sign that a thread has died... I guess this thread was DOA .

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It is illegal to publish it in Germany. Certainly not elsewhere.
It is illegal to publish or import it to The Netherlands as well.
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Hitler was a wanna-be philosopher, but failed in his attempts as demonstrated by Mein Kampf. However, I support free speech, and that includes this work despite the fact Hitler became a monster.

Even if you ban it, it would simply be available on the internet.
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