Mobileread/Amazon dust up hits PC World

Daithi · 03-13-2009, 07:58 PM

There is a really nice article from PC World that covers Amazon's demand that Mobileread remove any references to kindlepid.py

PC World article

Go visit the article and press the Digg button.

Dragoro · 03-13-2009, 08:50 PM

Interesting article. Wonder how long itll be and if itll be before amazon either finds a fix to prevent the program or finds a way to get the program off the net.

AnemicOak · 03-13-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragoro

Interesting article. Wonder how long itll be and if itll be before amazon either finds a fix to prevent the program or finds a way to get the program off the net.

Once something like this is in the wild there is no getting it off the net.

dreams · 03-13-2009, 09:03 PM

digg done

I would be nice if there were more comments on the article from Kindle users expressing their disappointment with Amazon.

Dragoro · 03-13-2009, 09:04 PM

apple managed to for a long while with programs that took music from ipod and put it on comp. Eventually they lost that battle, but it took a long time for them to lose it.

Daithi · 03-13-2009, 10:00 PM

It's spreading! A search on Google.News and Yahoo.News shows similar articles on Slashdot, TechSpot, Techdirt, Register, PC World, Macworld, and Engadget. None of them, or the comments posted by site visitors, is favorable to Amazon's actions.

CopperTrail · 03-13-2009, 10:02 PM

I'm surprised it took Amazon this long to figure out that the script was posted on this site, that thread has been there for a long time.

Boston · 03-13-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CopperTrail

I'm surprised it took Amazon this long to figure out that the script was posted on this site, that thread has been there for a long time.

My guess is that they've known about it all along, but its more the fear of it being misused by those purchasing via their iPhone that prompted the action (as opposed to Kindle owners using it to get other content on their Kindles).

slayda · 03-13-2009, 10:08 PM

I found the article extremely interesting, especially where they linked to the MR post that shows the letter sent. Either I'm just a dumb engineer or their lawyer screwed up.

From the letter MR is to remove all ANTI-circumvention ... MR, to my knowledge, has never had any ANTI-circumvention anything and what Amazon was accusing MR of having was CIRCUMVENTION scripts;

Maybe a lawyer should look at it.

CopperTrail · 03-13-2009, 10:08 PM

Good point Boston, didn't think of that.

wallcraft · 03-13-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by slayda

From the letter MR is to remove all ANTI-circumvention ... MR, to my knowledge, has never had any ANTI-circumvention anything and what Amazon was accusing MR of having was CIRCUMVENTION scripts;

DMCA includes "anti-circumvention provisions" (Wiki: Anti-circumvention), so the letter starts out correctly but then falls down on "anti-circumvention tools" (as you say, should be circumvention tools).

AnemicOak · 03-13-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CopperTrail

I'm surprised it took Amazon this long to figure out that the script was posted on this site, that thread has been there for a long time.

There are people from Amazon who lurk here. They've known about for a long time.

radiationman · 03-13-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wallcraft

DMCA includes "anti-circumvention provisions" (Wiki: Anti-circumvention), so the letter starts out correctly but then falls down on "anti-circumvention tools" (as you say, should be circumvention tools).

But isn't the responsibility of the rights holder i.e. mobipocket or the publishers to defend their copyrights under the DMCA? Amazon's encryption isn't being broken or circumvented here so does Amazon actually have a DMCA claim. If this is an issue, shouldn't mobipocket or the publishers be the ones issuing the take down notices?

tompe · 03-13-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Daithi

It's spreading! A search on Google.News and Yahoo.News shows similar articles on Slashdot, TechSpot, Techdirt, Register, PC World, Macworld, and Engadget. None of them, or the comments posted by site visitors, is favorable to Amazon's actions.

Some comment on Engadget was positive and accused MobileRead of wanting to sell more or their own stuff...

bwaldron · 03-13-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tompe

Some comment on Engadget was positive and accused MobileRead of wanting to sell more or their own stuff...

03-13-2009, 07:58 PM	#1
Daithi Publishers are evil! Posts: 2,418 Karma: 36205264 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Device: Various Kindles	Mobileread/Amazon dust up hits PC World There is a really nice article from PC World that covers Amazon's demand that Mobileread remove any references to kindlepid.py PC World article Go visit the article and press the Digg button.

03-13-2009, 10:08 PM	#9
slayda Retired & reading more! Posts: 2,764 Karma: 1884247 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Alabama, USA Device: Kindle 1, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6S+, Kobo Aura One	I found the article extremely interesting, especially where they linked to the MR post that shows the letter sent. Either I'm just a dumb engineer or their lawyer screwed up. From the letter MR is to remove all ANTI-circumvention ... MR, to my knowledge, has never had any ANTI-circumvention anything and what Amazon was accusing MR of having was CIRCUMVENTION scripts; Maybe a lawyer should look at it. Attached Thumbnails

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Dragoro Lovecraft Fan Posts: 414 Karma: 539914 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2, Kindle Touch	Interesting article. Wonder how long itll be and if itll be before amazon either finds a fix to prevent the program or finds a way to get the program off the net.

03-13-2009, 09:03 PM	#4
dreams It's about the umbrella Posts: 25,110 Karma: 56250158 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: Sony 505\| K Fire \| KK 3G+Wi-Fi \| iPhone 3Gs \|Vista 32-bit Hm Prem w/FF	digg done I would be nice if there were more comments on the article from Kindle users expressing their disappointment with Amazon.

03-13-2009, 09:04 PM	#5
Dragoro Lovecraft Fan Posts: 414 Karma: 539914 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Michigan Device: Kindle Paperwhite 2, Kindle Touch	apple managed to for a long while with programs that took music from ipod and put it on comp. Eventually they lost that battle, but it took a long time for them to lose it.

03-13-2009, 10:00 PM	#6
Daithi Publishers are evil! Posts: 2,418 Karma: 36205264 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Rhode Island Device: Various Kindles	It's spreading! A search on Google.News and Yahoo.News shows similar articles on Slashdot, TechSpot, Techdirt, Register, PC World, Macworld, and Engadget. None of them, or the comments posted by site visitors, is favorable to Amazon's actions.

03-13-2009, 10:02 PM	#7
CopperTrail Enthusiast Posts: 29 Karma: 57 Join Date: Feb 2005 Device: Dell Axim X3i	I'm surprised it took Amazon this long to figure out that the script was posted on this site, that thread has been there for a long time.

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