Fujitsu FLEPia vs. iRex iLiad vs. DR1000 video

TadW · 02-21-2009, 03:13 PM

Let the games begin! Here is a video clip demonstrating how Fujitsu's FLEPia compares to the two iRex e-book readers, iLiad and DR1000. The biggest difference is obviously that the FLEPia display is in color. Unfortunately, its screen refresh still leaves a lot to be desired. See for yourself...

The video was apparently taken at the Termina Kinshicho Fujiya restaurant which has WiFi installed to serve news content to the e-readers.

Moejoe · 02-21-2009, 03:17 PM

The fujitsu looks like it would get annoying very quickly. That refresh rate, the unresponsive zoom, it's all too distracting when you want to read. Nice to see a colour screen though

Alexander Turcic · 02-21-2009, 03:20 PM

Contrast seems to be inferior to E Ink, doesn't it?

PhishStyx · 02-21-2009, 03:44 PM

I gotta say, my DR's refresh rate isn't quite as fast as the one in that video (so far I've only used it to look at PDF's, all of which appear to have multiple layers), but it's still a LOT faster than that FLEPia thing.

Tectonic · 02-21-2009, 05:31 PM

I'd like to see a color screen without the touchscreen.

Phogg · 02-21-2009, 05:56 PM

If you will look at 2:20 into the video, it appears that the page turns rapidly when it is just pictures with no embedded text. So the issue is with the controller not the screen technology.

That would also mean that (unless you wanted to do a bunch of zooming in) this could be quite adequate for comic books as is. Not that I don't want improvements in the controller.

Over · 02-21-2009, 07:23 PM

From the wiki:

Page update 2 seconds (8 colors), 10 seconds (4,096 colors)

I guess that if you want to read a novel, B&W book or manga in shades of gray, it's fast. Only if you want the colors, for magazines, graphc novels, comics... it takes 10 seconds.

giddion · 02-21-2009, 09:53 PM

Just a quick blurb on it from slash gear.

etherspin · 02-21-2009, 11:00 PM

wake me up in 2013 when we have colour e-ink with good contrast...

Faenad · 02-22-2009, 10:56 AM

Is this really e-ink or a competing epaper technology?
Because with such low contrasts and low angle of vision -even for B&W only content- the screen seems quite bad, even without considering the refresh times that seems to comes from a slow controller or processor rather than from the screen.

CTH · 02-22-2009, 11:18 AM

It has to be a controll issue, why would the right side of the display be faster than the rest otherwise?

Alexander Turcic · 02-22-2009, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faenad

Is this really e-ink or a competing epaper technology?

It's a competing e-paper technology, using three layers of reflective cholesteric LCDs (ChLCD). See attachment.

Phogg · 02-22-2009, 03:23 PM

It looks like the color is acceptable...from an extremely narrow viewing angle.
We'll put this down as "Doesn't share well with others".

It will handle four color comic books quite acceptably.
Photography of sunsets, not so much.

I can live with it, I think.

pkovak · 02-22-2009, 04:02 PM

From what I saw, thanks, no I won't buy it.

shousa · 02-22-2009, 06:24 PM

Here's a link to the PDFs for the product (I could not find these had been posted before):
http://www.frontech.fujitsu.com/serv...pia/downloads/

Is this easy on the eyes the way my Sony 505 is? (I want this feature - would be a deal maker for me)
Does the screen emit light so can see at night? (I do not want this feature as not good for eyes - would be a deal killer for me)

Prices - according to here (a bit old) http://ameblo.jp/blade-factory/entry-10034258525.html

The smallest one is 2 man 7 sen = around $300 US!!

Anyone know where to buy one? - BTW I have family in Japan

02-21-2009, 03:13 PM	#1
TadW Uebermensch Posts: 2,583 Karma: 1094606 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Italy Device: Kindle	Fujitsu FLEPia vs. iRex iLiad vs. DR1000 video Let the games begin! Here is a video clip demonstrating how Fujitsu's FLEPia compares to the two iRex e-book readers, iLiad and DR1000. The biggest difference is obviously that the FLEPia display is in color. Unfortunately, its screen refresh still leaves a lot to be desired. See for yourself... The video was apparently taken at the Termina Kinshicho Fujiya restaurant which has WiFi installed to serve news content to the e-readers.

02-22-2009, 06:24 PM	#15
shousa Groupie Posts: 181 Karma: 232 Join Date: May 2006	Here's a link to the PDFs for the product (I could not find these had been posted before): http://www.frontech.fujitsu.com/serv...pia/downloads/ Is this easy on the eyes the way my Sony 505 is? (I want this feature - would be a deal maker for me) Does the screen emit light so can see at night? (I do not want this feature as not good for eyes - would be a deal killer for me) Prices - according to here (a bit old) http://ameblo.jp/blade-factory/entry-10034258525.html The smallest one is 2 man 7 sen = around $300 US!! Anyone know where to buy one? - BTW I have family in Japan Last edited by shousa; 02-22-2009 at 06:34 PM.

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02-21-2009, 03:17 PM	#2
Moejoe Banned Posts: 5,100 Karma: 72193 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South of the Border Device: Coffin	The fujitsu looks like it would get annoying very quickly. That refresh rate, the unresponsive zoom, it's all too distracting when you want to read. Nice to see a colour screen though

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Alexander Turcic Fully Converged Posts: 18,171 Karma: 14021202 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Switzerland Device: Too many to count here.	Contrast seems to be inferior to E Ink, doesn't it?

02-21-2009, 03:44 PM	#4
PhishStyx The me that I am Posts: 413 Karma: 1078 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: In my house! Duh! Device: Kindle 1 & DR 1000s	I gotta say, my DR's refresh rate isn't quite as fast as the one in that video (so far I've only used it to look at PDF's, all of which appear to have multiple layers), but it's still a LOT faster than that FLEPia thing.

02-21-2009, 05:31 PM	#5
Tectonic Tech Lust Posts: 31 Karma: 10 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Canada Device: Sony PRS-700, HP iPaq 210	I'd like to see a color screen without the touchscreen.

02-21-2009, 05:56 PM	#6
Phogg PHD in Horribleness Posts: 2,320 Karma: 23599604 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the ironbound section, near avenue L Device: Just a whole bunch. I guess I am a collector now.	If you will look at 2:20 into the video, it appears that the page turns rapidly when it is just pictures with no embedded text. So the issue is with the controller not the screen technology. That would also mean that (unless you wanted to do a bunch of zooming in) this could be quite adequate for comic books as is. Not that I don't want improvements in the controller.

02-21-2009, 07:23 PM	#7
Over Wizard Posts: 1,462 Karma: 6061516 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Cascais, Portugal Device: Kindle PW, Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2", OnePlus 6	From the wiki: Page update 2 seconds (8 colors), 10 seconds (4,096 colors) I guess that if you want to read a novel, B&W book or manga in shades of gray, it's fast. Only if you want the colors, for magazines, graphc novels, comics... it takes 10 seconds.

02-21-2009, 09:53 PM	#8
giddion Connoisseur Posts: 73 Karma: 186 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: CT, USA Device: samsung i910 now - cybook later	Just a quick blurb on it from slash gear.

02-21-2009, 11:00 PM	#9
etherspin Connoisseur Posts: 79 Karma: 292 Join Date: Jan 2009 Device: none	wake me up in 2013 when we have colour e-ink with good contrast...

02-22-2009, 10:56 AM	#10
Faenad Ad astra per aspera Posts: 347 Karma: 724 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mexico Device: PRS-505, PRS-300 & HTC HD2	Is this really e-ink or a competing epaper technology? Because with such low contrasts and low angle of vision -even for B&W only content- the screen seems quite bad, even without considering the refresh times that seems to comes from a slow controller or processor rather than from the screen.

02-22-2009, 11:18 AM	#11
CTH Zealot Posts: 129 Karma: 1000153 Join Date: Jan 2007	It has to be a controll issue, why would the right side of the display be faster than the rest otherwise?

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02-22-2009, 03:23 PM	#13
Phogg PHD in Horribleness Posts: 2,320 Karma: 23599604 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the ironbound section, near avenue L Device: Just a whole bunch. I guess I am a collector now.	It looks like the color is acceptable...from an extremely narrow viewing angle. We'll put this down as "Doesn't share well with others". It will handle four color comic books quite acceptably. Photography of sunsets, not so much. I can live with it, I think.

02-22-2009, 04:02 PM	#14
pkovak Connoisseur Posts: 60 Karma: 10 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Earth Device: none	From what I saw, thanks, no I won't buy it.