Changing the case of text

paperback · 02-05-2022, 06:57 AM

Linux Mint 20.1

Changing case is a common enough occurence but, IMV, it could be improved a little. First you have to select the text, then right-click, then select the options. The keyboard shortcut for "Change case" is the same as that to select "Cut", so you need to press twice to engage. IMV, it would be better to have unique letter shortcuts in the context menu if possible.

Suggestion: Have a menu option for "Change case" and allow this to be accessed purely by keyboard letter shortcuts.

The other thing is that Calibre has an option "Capitalise". Normally this means "make the first letter in every selected word a capital letter", but Calibre interprets this mistakenly as "make the first letter of the selection a capital. In fact, this should called "Sentence case".

Suggestion: Change the wording of the existing "Capitalize" to "Sentence" and add a true "Capitalize" option for those who want a capital leter at the start of every word.

phossler · 02-05-2022, 01:27 PM

Preferences, Keyboard Shortcuts, Tools has UPPER CASE, lowercase, and Title Case options where you can customize the shortcut key

You still have to select the text though since Kovid hasn't had time to add a mind reading option yet

There's also some RegEx-Functions that might be helpful, although I'm not sure which ones were 'built in' and which members were nice enough to help me with

kovidgoyal · 02-05-2022, 07:46 PM

I changed the shortcut letter to h. Although as phossler points out there are already configurable shortcuts for it that dont go through menus. I'ma fraid I dont agree capitalize means capitalize every word, in any case, why would one ever want to capitalize every word? If you want to capitalize words in a sentence, you use title case.

Karellen · 02-05-2022, 09:45 PM

While discussing Capitalize case, I have noticed a bug with this.

I have always interpreted this to mean that the first letter of the first word of every sentence becomes a capital letter, along with nouns.

But using this on consecutive sentences, only the first letter is ever capitalised. Subsequent sentences then get reverted to lower case.

This is expected...

Code:

Hi, I am from France. I am also German. My third sentence.

But using Capitalize case, you end up with...

Code:

Hi, I am from france. i am also german. my third sentence.

Not only are nouns uncapitalised, but letters at the start of a sentence are also uncapitalised.

kovidgoyal · 02-05-2022, 09:59 PM

Yes capitalize capitalises only the first letter of the selection. it does not do language analysis to capitalize things.

Karellen · 02-05-2022, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Yes capitalize capitalises only the first letter of the selection. it does not do language analysis to capitalize things.

Ok.
Any possibility of making the conversion respect the full stop between sentences? I know spotting nouns might be a bit difficult.

Thank you.

kovidgoyal · 02-06-2022, 12:10 AM

That would require language analysis as well. think of for e.g. or etc or languages where the sentence separator is not a period.

Karellen · 02-06-2022, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

That would require language analysis as well. think of for e.g. or etc or languages where the sentence separator is not a period.

ah, of course. Lots of opportunity for false positives.

Thanks anyway

paperback · 02-07-2022, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phossler

Preferences, Keyboard Shortcuts, Tools has UPPER CASE, lowercase, and Title Case options where you can customize the shortcut key

That's true but, IMV, not the most convenient option as it involves remembering three different shortcuts. A better way might be to have one shortcut to open the menu with the "Change case" options in it; then use the keyboard shortcuts suggested by the "menu mnemonics". That way you only have one shortcut to remember for all cases. Alternatively, if the "Change case" could be incorporated into one of the main menu options then you could use all mnemonic shortcuts.

And, AFAICS, "Capitalization" should be changed to "Sentence case". There's a definition at https://writeanswers.royalroads.ca/faq/199241.

phossler · 02-08-2022, 01:03 PM

@paperback

I only ever need the Title Case, mostly when I'm fixing headings that my Saved Searchs missed, so it's not an issue for me

I suppose a logical place would be to add three icons to the Format Text toolbar, but I'm happy with the keyboard shortcut

BetterRed · 02-08-2022, 04:33 PM

I use a utility AnyCase that works everywhere, even HERE

I don't know where the 'drive' to burden every app with multiple variants of common functions such case changing, dictionary lookups, snippets etc came from… but I can guarantee you it wasn't me

BR

phossler · 02-08-2022, 06:28 PM

If you include tags in the selected text, does it leave them alone?

Calibre's Title Case only affects non-tag text

02-05-2022, 06:57 AM	#1
paperback Connoisseur Posts: 76 Karma: 10 Join Date: Feb 2022 Device: None	Changing the case of text Linux Mint 20.1 Changing case is a common enough occurence but, IMV, it could be improved a little. First you have to select the text, then right-click, then select the options. The keyboard shortcut for "Change case" is the same as that to select "Cut", so you need to press twice to engage. IMV, it would be better to have unique letter shortcuts in the context menu if possible. Suggestion: Have a menu option for "Change case" and allow this to be accessed purely by keyboard letter shortcuts. The other thing is that Calibre has an option "Capitalise". Normally this means "make the first letter in every selected word a capital letter", but Calibre interprets this mistakenly as "make the first letter of the selection a capital. In fact, this should called "Sentence case". Suggestion: Change the wording of the existing "Capitalize" to "Sentence" and add a true "Capitalize" option for those who want a capital leter at the start of every word.

02-05-2022, 01:27 PM	#2
phossler Wizard Posts: 1,087 Karma: 447222 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Valley Forge, PA, USA Device: Kindle Paperwhite	Preferences, Keyboard Shortcuts, Tools has UPPER CASE, lowercase, and Title Case options where you can customize the shortcut key You still have to select the text though since Kovid hasn't had time to add a mind reading option yet There's also some RegEx-Functions that might be helpful, although I'm not sure which ones were 'built in' and which members were nice enough to help me with Attached Thumbnails Last edited by phossler; 02-05-2022 at 02:14 PM.

02-05-2022, 09:45 PM	#4
Karellen Wizard Posts: 1,611 Karma: 9500498 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2	While discussing Capitalize case, I have noticed a bug with this. I have always interpreted this to mean that the first letter of the first word of every sentence becomes a capital letter, along with nouns. But using this on consecutive sentences, only the first letter is ever capitalised. Subsequent sentences then get reverted to lower case. This is expected... Code: Hi, I am from France. I am also German. My third sentence. But using Capitalize case, you end up with... Code: Hi, I am from france. i am also german. my third sentence. Not only are nouns uncapitalised, but letters at the start of a sentence are also uncapitalised.

02-08-2022, 01:03 PM	#10
phossler Wizard Posts: 1,087 Karma: 447222 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Valley Forge, PA, USA Device: Kindle Paperwhite	@paperback I only ever need the Title Case, mostly when I'm fixing headings that my Saved Searchs missed, so it's not an issue for me I suppose a logical place would be to add three icons to the Format Text toolbar, but I'm happy with the keyboard shortcut Attached Thumbnails

02-08-2022, 04:33 PM	#11
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,724 Karma: 29711016 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	I use a utility AnyCase that works everywhere, even HERE I don't know where the 'drive' to burden every app with multiple variants of common functions such case changing, dictionary lookups, snippets etc came from… but I can guarantee you it wasn't me BR Attached Thumbnails

02-05-2022, 07:46 PM	#3
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,345 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I changed the shortcut letter to h. Although as phossler points out there are already configurable shortcuts for it that dont go through menus. I'ma fraid I dont agree capitalize means capitalize every word, in any case, why would one ever want to capitalize every word? If you want to capitalize words in a sentence, you use title case.

02-05-2022, 09:59 PM	#5
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,345 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Yes capitalize capitalises only the first letter of the selection. it does not do language analysis to capitalize things.

02-06-2022, 12:10 AM	#7
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,345 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	That would require language analysis as well. think of for e.g. or etc or languages where the sentence separator is not a period.

02-08-2022, 06:28 PM	#12
phossler Wizard Posts: 1,087 Karma: 447222 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Valley Forge, PA, USA Device: Kindle Paperwhite	If you include tags in the selected text, does it leave them alone? Calibre's Title Case only affects non-tag text

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