Flight Crew plug-in

Notjohn · 10-30-2019, 10:03 AM

I've had the Flight Crew plug-in installed ever since it was no longer included in Sigil, but now I have installed Sigil 0.9.18 in a new computer, followed by the download of Flight Crew, and no joy!

I am pretty sure that I did absolutely nothing on that earlier occasion. But this time I apparently had to "manage plug-ins"and add it. I did this, opened an epub, and ran Flight Crew, to get this response:

"Status: failed
"Launcher: missing or incorrect paths passed in"

Since I didn't have to address this problem on the previous occasion, I have no idea what I am supposed to do.

Help! Thanks - NJ

DiapDealer · 10-30-2019, 10:19 AM

I honestly wouldn't bother with Flightcrew any more. We've already been debating whether to abandon it altogether.

Having said that however, I know of know reason the latest version from:

https://github.com/Sigil-Ebook/fligh...eleases/latest

wouldn't run.

Just make sure you're downloading the zipped plugin for Windows (if Windows is what you're using).

It certainly works for me on my various machines.

KevinH · 10-30-2019, 10:21 AM

That error message in from the plugin code itself. When invoked it checks to make sure that all the expected files and paths have been properly provided. These hadn't been changed in a very long time until quite recently. And that change happed AFTER Sigil-0.9.18 was released.

Would you please try downloading a fresh flightcrew plugin from here (version 0.9.2):

https://github.com/Sigil-Ebook/flightcrew/releases

Then in Sigil use ManagePlugins to remove flightcrew, then add in the fresh copy of the flightcrew plugin zip archive that you just downloaded.

Please give that a try. If you get the same error, then we will need to dig deeper.

KevinH

Vroni · 10-30-2019, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

I honestly wouldn't bother with Flightcrew any more. We've already been debating whether to abandon it altogether.

I'm using FC as often as i use epubcheck. The reason is simple: files not being used do not make an epoub invalid,

FC is the only tool/plugin i know whcih can detect images not being referred too, unsued stylesheets and fonts which aree not referred.

I really would miss it.

DiapDealer · 10-30-2019, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vroni

I'm using FC as often as i use epubcheck. The reason is simple: files not being used do not make an epoub invalid,

FC is the only tool/plugin i know whcih can detect images not being referred too, unsued stylesheets and fonts which aree not referred.

I really would miss it.

We're not going to take it away from you.

We're just probably not going to continue to develop it any further. We've got some security fixes that we've implemented recently that we may incorporate into a new plugin release (and to perhaps ensure that it will continue to work with Sigil 1.0), but after that... not so much. You'll be free to continue to use it as long as it's useful to you, though.

theducks · 10-30-2019, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vroni

I'm using FC as often as i use epubcheck. The reason is simple: files not being used do not make an epoub invalid,

FC is the only tool/plugin i know whcih can detect images not being referred too, unsued stylesheets and fonts which aree not referred.

I really would miss it.

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Notjohn · 11-02-2019, 07:27 AM

So I should download Epubcheck from the GitHub repository instead? It works as a plug-in?

My computer was wiped out, so both Sigil and Flight Crew were freshly downloaded a day or two before I posted. And yes, I did fetch the Windows zip file. I only did this once before, when Flight Crew was no longer bundled with Sigil, and it installed without a murmur. Same computer but now Win 10 instead of Win 7.

Thank you all! -- NJ

DiapDealer · 11-02-2019, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notjohn

So I should download Epubcheck from the GitHub repository instead? It works as a plug-in?

No. You should download the latest version of Doitus's Epubcheck plugin from the Sigil Plugin subforum. The plugin index thread (in the sticky section of Plugin subforum) has all plugins listed alphabetically with links to their download/support threads.

JSWolf · 11-02-2019, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notjohn

So I should download Epubcheck from the GitHub repository instead? It works as a plug-in?

My computer was wiped out, so both Sigil and Flight Crew were freshly downloaded a day or two before I posted. And yes, I did fetch the Windows zip file. I only did this once before, when Flight Crew was no longer bundled with Sigil, and it installed without a murmur. Same computer but now Win 10 instead of Win 7.

Thank you all! -- NJ

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=248186

That's the link to the epubcheck plugin for Sigil.

DiapDealer · 11-02-2019, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSWolf

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=248186

That's the link to the epubcheck plugin for Sigil.

Thanks so much for completely sidestepping my "teach a man to fish" strategy.

People too quick to post hand-holdy direct links is a big part of why people never learn to find their own way around here.

We don't need to post direct links to plugin threads when there's a perfectly good (and regularly maintained) index IN THE PLUGIN SUBFORUM that will give them links to EVERY plugin. If you must cripple people with direct links, link to that thread instead.

Turtle91 · 11-03-2019, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Thanks so much for completely sidestepping my "teach a man to fish" strategy.

Speaking of teaching a man to fish - here is an alternate version:

Quote:

Give a man a plane ticket and he can fly for a day.
Push a man out the door in-flight and he can fly for the rest of his life!

Sorry...just a little morbid pilot humor...

theducks · 11-03-2019, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turtle91

Sorry...just a little morbid pilot humor...

Never understood those folk who liked to free fall.

I want to be (aerodynamically) Flying when I leave a solid surface.

Notjohn · 11-05-2019, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

Thanks so much for completely sidestepping my "teach a man to fish" strategy.

People too quick to post hand-holdy direct links is a big part of why people never learn to find their own way around here.

We don't need to post direct links to plugin threads when there's a perfectly good (and regularly maintained) index IN THE PLUGIN SUBFORUM that will give them links to EVERY plugin. If you must cripple people with direct links, link to that thread instead.

I trust that others have noticed the irony that it was the resident curmudgeon who tried to help, and who got smacked for it.

Happily, Flight Crew is now working as before. But why is Epubcheck not linked on the Sigil Releases page? Doug seems to delight in catering only to the in-group. It is for that reason that I advise people to tread very carefully when they go to this forum.

KevinH · 11-05-2019, 12:40 PM

We do not link the epubcheck plugin on the Releases page because it is not our (Sigil-Ebook) plugin! We did not develop it nor do we maintain it. All the credit for that goes to Doitsu. It is Doitsu's plugin!

It is in the plugin index so that people can find it.

I truly expect to see almost all epub publishing moving away from epub2 to epub3 given its importance overseas, especially in Japan and Asian markets. So flightcrew's future usefulness is in question.

DiapDealer · 11-05-2019, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH

It is in the plugin index so that people can find it.

And the link to the Plugin Index is included in the Wiki.

10-30-2019, 10:03 AM	#1
Notjohn mostly an observer Posts: 1,519 Karma: 987654 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Kindle	Flight Crew plug-in I've had the Flight Crew plug-in installed ever since it was no longer included in Sigil, but now I have installed Sigil 0.9.18 in a new computer, followed by the download of Flight Crew, and no joy! I am pretty sure that I did absolutely nothing on that earlier occasion. But this time I apparently had to "manage plug-ins"and add it. I did this, opened an epub, and ran Flight Crew, to get this response: "Status: failed "Launcher: missing or incorrect paths passed in" Since I didn't have to address this problem on the previous occasion, I have no idea what I am supposed to do. Help! Thanks - NJ

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10-30-2019, 10:19 AM	#2
DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,570 Karma: 204127028 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	I honestly wouldn't bother with Flightcrew any more. We've already been debating whether to abandon it altogether. Having said that however, I know of know reason the latest version from: https://github.com/Sigil-Ebook/fligh...eleases/latest wouldn't run. Just make sure you're downloading the zipped plugin for Windows (if Windows is what you're using). It certainly works for me on my various machines.

10-30-2019, 10:21 AM	#3
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,763 Karma: 5706256 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	That error message in from the plugin code itself. When invoked it checks to make sure that all the expected files and paths have been properly provided. These hadn't been changed in a very long time until quite recently. And that change happed AFTER Sigil-0.9.18 was released. Would you please try downloading a fresh flightcrew plugin from here (version 0.9.2): https://github.com/Sigil-Ebook/flightcrew/releases Then in Sigil use ManagePlugins to remove flightcrew, then add in the fresh copy of the flightcrew plugin zip archive that you just downloaded. Please give that a try. If you get the same error, then we will need to dig deeper. KevinH

11-02-2019, 07:27 AM	#7
Notjohn mostly an observer Posts: 1,519 Karma: 987654 Join Date: Dec 2012 Device: Kindle	So I should download Epubcheck from the GitHub repository instead? It works as a plug-in? My computer was wiped out, so both Sigil and Flight Crew were freshly downloaded a day or two before I posted. And yes, I did fetch the Windows zip file. I only did this once before, when Flight Crew was no longer bundled with Sigil, and it installed without a murmur. Same computer but now Win 10 instead of Win 7. Thank you all! -- NJ

11-05-2019, 12:40 PM	#14
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 8,763 Karma: 5706256 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	We do not link the epubcheck plugin on the Releases page because it is not our (Sigil-Ebook) plugin! We did not develop it nor do we maintain it. All the credit for that goes to Doitsu. It is Doitsu's plugin! It is in the plugin index so that people can find it. I truly expect to see almost all epub publishing moving away from epub2 to epub3 given its importance overseas, especially in Japan and Asian markets. So flightcrew's future usefulness is in question.

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