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Old 11-06-2022, 07:13 PM   #1
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ver 6.8 Share books by email keeps author in title

UPDATE TO MY ORIGINAL POST:
THE SITUATION I DESCRIBE BELOW IS BASICALLY INCORRECT. SORRY.
ACCORDING TO KOVID GOYAL'S REPLY BELOW, IN CALIBRE VER 6.8 THE AUTHOR IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE FILENAME WHEN BEING EMAILED TO AN @kindle.com ADDRESS, SO DON'T END UP IN THE TITLE ON YOUR KINDLE

I HAVE FOUND THAT TO BE TRUE. But as of right now the author is still included
in the filename if you use the @FREE.KINDLE.COM address, to avoid charges for large files sent over Amazon's 4G LTE service, which some of us Oasis owners still have

I have always used the "free" address. I'll have to switch to the regular address. Eventually maybe the "free" address can be included in the "no author in filename" category.


I saw the note on this latest version 6.8 that author name should be removed from filename before emailing an epub to a kindle address because Amazon is reading the author from the metadata, not from the filename.

BUT THIS RENDERS CALIBRE'S "SHARE BY EMAIL" FOR BOOKS USELESS because Calibre leaves the author in the filename and does not remove it or alter the filename before emailing it. This is all done in the background and the user has no control over it (as far as I know). The user doesn't create the filename in calibre. So in order to send a converted epub to kindle one would have to send the email independently of calibre and attach the file to an email (after saving that epub format to disk in an easily accessed directory and then removing the author from the filename).

Can't calibre be set up to take the author out of the filename, or create a new filename for emailing purposes, before emailing a book internally. Calibre creates a filename; it ought to be able to change, uncreate, or re-create one at the emailing stage. It does so (even in ver 6.8) for news feed downloads that are sent by email. I tried that today and there is no "calibre" as author in the filename emailed to kindle:

Harper's Magazine [Sun, 06 Nov 2022]
calibre
101.3 KB
Created on November 6, 2022


But for an ebook, the author is kept in the filename when emailed from calibre:

The Berlin Exchange (epub) - Joseph Kanon
Joseph Kanon
847.8 KB
Created on November 6, 2022


Or maybe there ought to be an option in the conversion process for the user to omit the author from the filename, maybe via a plugin of some kind.. It may be "nice" to have it but for sharing purposes it gets in the way. Let the user decide.

Until Amazon updates its "Send to Kindle" to be able to send epubs (without changing the extension jpeg!), emailing through calibre is the only simple "sending" method. And even in the Send to Kindle app we may have to remove the author from the generated filename before sending.

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Old 11-06-2022, 07:47 PM   #2
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Is there a way to keep the author out of the filename upon importing/adding a new book? And keeping it out of filename after any conversions?

Books imported from Amazon never have the author in the filename when they are originally downloaded to computer "for transfer to device via usb". The author only gets into the filename when added to calibre.

It adds the author to the filename (by reading file contents) from any imported book, from any source, even ones that have no author in the filename.

So calibre must read the author from the file contents upon adding/importing the book. Can't it be told "DONT'T DO THAT"? ...via an option of some kind in preferences?

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Old 11-06-2022, 08:07 PM   #3
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I just emailed a epub to my kindle using calibre 6.8 the file name does not include the author name.

Penric's Labors
Lois McMaster Bujold
636.3 KB
Created on November 6, 2022

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I saw the note on this latest version 6.8 that author name should be removed from filename before emailing an epub to a kindle address because Amazon is reading the author from the metadata, not from the filename.

BUT THIS RENDERS CALIBRE'S "SHARE BY EMAIL" FOR BOOKS USELESS because Calibre leaves the author in the filename and does not remove it or alter the filename before emailing it. This is all done in the background and the user has no control over it (as far as I know). The user doesn't create the filename in calibre. So in order to send a converted epub to kindle one would have to send the email independently of calibre and attach the file to an email (after saving that epub format to disk in an easily accessed directory and then removing the author from the filename).

Can't calibre be set up to take the author out of the filename, or create a new filename for emailing purposes, before emailing a book internally. Calibre creates a filename; it ought to be able to change, uncreate, or re-create one at the emailing stage. It does so (even in ver 6.8) for news feed downloads that are sent by email. I tried that today and there is no "calibre" as author in the filename emailed to kindle:

Harper's Magazine [Sun, 06 Nov 2022]
calibre
101.3 KB
Created on November 6, 2022


But for an ebook, the author is kept in the filename when emailed from calibre:

The Berlin Exchange (epub) - Joseph Kanon
Joseph Kanon
847.8 KB
Created on November 6, 2022


Or maybe there ought to be an option in the conversion process for the user to omit the author from the filename, maybe via a plugin of some kind.. It may be "nice" to have it but for sharing purposes it gets in the way. Let the user decide.

Until Amazon updates its "Send to Kindle" to be able to send epubs (without changing the extension jpeg!), emailing through calibre is the only simple "sending" method. And even in the Send to Kindle app we may have to remove the author from the generated filename before sending.
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Old 11-06-2022, 08:29 PM   #4
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I've tried every imaginable option in preferences, with my limited knowledge. Won't go into that here since nothing really worked. Just to say if you set the preference for calibre to not read the metadata from the contents but simply from the filename upon import, and the filename has no author in it, you're stuck with author "unknown" printed in the new filename, and if email that through calibre you get "unknown" in the title and the author spots, not a blank.

If the author can't be removed from the filename in calibre's email process, then I'm just going to have to be resigned to have the author's name in two places in my Kindle library, in the author slot and as part of the title.

I can't be bothered jumping through a bunch of hoops to manually changed that every time I send a book. Additionally, I have recently found that every time I email an epub outside of calibre I first get an email from Amazon asking me to verify that I really sent that book, even though it comes from an "approved" address. What a pain. I don't get a verification request when things are emailed from within Calibre. Strange.
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Old 11-06-2022, 08:38 PM   #5
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I just emailed a epub to my kindle using calibre 6.8 the file name does not include the author name.

Penric's Labors
Lois McMaster Bujold
636.3 KB
Created on November 6, 2022

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The title in your Kindle doesn't have the author name in it, but I presume that the filename of the file you emailed didn't have the author name in it either. In other words the filename was probably Penric's Labors.epub, not Penric's Labor - Lois McMaster Bujold.epub.

Every file I've emailed via calibre lately (which includes the author in the filename by default) arrives in the Kindle library with the author in both the title and the author slots. This is unfortunately by design since Amazon no longer regards that little hyphen in the filename as indicating that an author follows. It gets its author info from the file contents and regards everything in the filename as a title. You must have removed the author from the filename somehow. OR MORE LIKELY, Amazon is being inconsistent. That wouldn't be surprising.

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Old 11-06-2022, 08:49 PM   #6
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The author is not included in the filename when emailling to @kindle.com addresses, since calibre 6.8.
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File name as noted on my computer using the file manger.

Penric's Labors - Lois McMaster Bujold.epub

This is from the calibre library folder as named by calibre.
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The title in your Kindle doesn't have the author name in it, but I presume that the filename of the file you emailed didn't have the author name in it either. In other words the filename was probably Penric's Labors.epub, not Penric's Labor - Lois McMaster Bujold.epub.

Every file I've emailed via calibre lately (which includes the author in the filename by default) arrives in the Kindle library with the author in both the title and the author slots. This is unfortunately by design since Amazon no longer regards that little hyphen in the filename as indicating that an author follows. It gets its author info from the file contents and regards everything in the filename as a title.
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File name as noted on my computer using the file manger.

Penric's Labors - Lois McMaster Bujold.epub

This is from the calibre library folder as named by calibre.
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Ooo!
I thought there was a new Penric, but I see this is an Omnibus of the books I already have (and read)
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The title in your Kindle doesn't have the author name in it, but I presume that the filename of the file you emailed didn't have the author name in it either. In other words the filename was probably Penric's Labors.epub, not Penric's Labor - Lois McMaster Bujold.epub.

Every file I've emailed via calibre lately (which includes the author in the filename by default) arrives in the Kindle library with the author in both the title and the author slots. This is unfortunately by design since Amazon no longer regards that little hyphen in the filename as indicating that an author follows. It gets its author info from the file contents and regards everything in the filename as a title. You must have removed the author from the filename somehow. OR MORE LIKELY, Amazon is being inconsistent. That wouldn't be surprising.
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I just emailed a epub to my kindle using calibre 6.8 the file name does not include the author name.

Penric's Labors
Lois McMaster Bujold
636.3 KB
Created on November 6, 2022

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NOW THIS IS WEIRD.

I always email things to the free.kindle.com address because items will only be downloaded over wifi. If I use the plain kindle.com address they can be downloaded to my Kindle Oasis using mobile data over 4G LTE network (I have one of the last devices that can still do that). But if the item is over 1MB I get charged 15 cents a MB up to the $3.00 limit I've got set. Amazon isn't very consistent about charging that but ...

BUT ANYWAY, I sent this same epub book (emailed via calibre 6.8) to both addresses just now. The one sent to the plain kindle.com address arrived with no author in the Title line:

Chesapeake (epub)
James A. Michener
2.3 MB
Created on November 6, 2022


Whereas the same file sent to the FREE.kindle.com address arrives with the author in both Title and Author lines. Same book, same file, same filename, different result:

Chesapeake (epub) - James A. Michener
James A. Michener
2.3 MB
Created on November 6, 2022


WEIRD. That may explain why your epub also did not include the author in the title.
BTW, I always an (epub) to the title of books I convert to distinguish them on my Kindles from Amazon purchases, KIndle Unlimited books, and public library loans, or old mobi conversions.
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Moral of the story for me, for now: email books through calibre using the regular, not the "free" kindle address and hope that keeps working and that the Oasis is connected to Wi-Fi at home when I usually email books to it.

I also have newsfeeds automatically emailed daily to the free kindle address to avoid any charges. So there isn't any risk there of incurring any expense. Some news files can be rather large.
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The author is not included in the filename when emailling to @kindle.com addresses, since calibre 6.8.
I think we've just discovered that. BUT the author is still included when a file is emailed to a FREE.KINDLE.COM address, which some of us use because we are fortunate enough to still have an Oasis with 4G LTE service and don't want to incur charges for large files if there is no wifi available.. All the earlier Kindles with only 3G mobile connections obviously no longer work.

All my news feeds are emailed to the FREE address because the files can be large. And those don't include "calibre" as the author in the title even though "- calibre" is in the filename.

But any epub books I've emailed through calibre still have the author in the title if they are sent via FREE.KINDLE.COM

I've decided to just stop using the "free" address for books for now, but keep it for newsfeeds.
But maybe you could also add the @free.kindle.com address to exclude the author in the filename as well. Would be appreciated.

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