Any big advantage to upgrading from 9.9 and 9.10 for a writer?

Gregg Bell · 07-29-2019, 09:37 PM

I've got 9.9 on a linux computer and 9.10 on a windows 10 computer. They both work amazingly well (thank you!) but I keep getting the alert that new versions are available (the latest being 9.16). I've glanced at the changes but can somebody give me their opinion if it would be worthwhile for me to upgrade and to what version, or as long as things are working for me with what I've got I should just hang with it. I'm just writinig novels for publishing on Amazon. Thanks. P.S. Like what does the page edit function (replacing BookView) do?

BetterRed · 07-30-2019, 03:54 AM

First thought - IIABDFI

In my experience, if you're going to upgrade any software, there's rarely any point in not upgrading to the latest official release version. And if you read the release notes for Sigil releases 0.9.11-15 you'll see there are specific reasons for avoiding some of those releases. On Windows version 0.9.16 seems to be rock solid.

I never used Book View (it was several years before I even knew it existed) so I don't miss at all. But surprisingly I find Page Edit useful because I can see the effect of wysiwyg editing in the code inspector panel - and if I'm inclined I can edit the code in the inspector panel and see the effect in the wysiwig panel.

The next version of PageEdit will probably have spellcheck.

I'll let others speak to the technicalities - there were some issues regard the sigil.ini file that you may need to be made aware of. DD and/or KH can advise you best on that.

BR

DiapDealer · 07-30-2019, 05:46 AM

You might actually have trouble upgrading to the latest Sigil on your linux system, Gregg. 0.9.16 and PageEdit work best with a very recent version of Qt. That would probably mean compiling them both yourself.

patrik · 07-30-2019, 05:56 AM

For me, the biggest change is the memory usage. But if you don't see that as a problem, you may want to stay where you are, at least until Qt catches up.

(If you do want to upgrade to the latest and don't want to compile Qt yourself, you can use this PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:beineri/opt-qt-5.12.3-bionic . Do remember to use it when doing the cmake.)

Gregg Bell · 07-30-2019, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BetterRed

First thought - IIABDFI

In my experience, if you're going to upgrade any software, there's rarely any point in not upgrading to the latest official release version. And if you read the release notes for Sigil releases 0.9.11-15 you'll see there are specific reasons for avoiding some of those releases. On Windows version 0.9.16 seems to be rock solid.

I never used Book View (it was several years before I even knew it existed) so I don't miss at all. But surprisingly I find Page Edit useful because I can see the effect of wysiwyg editing in the code inspector panel - and if I'm inclined I can edit the code in the inspector panel and see the effect in the wysiwig panel.

The next version of PageEdit will probably have spellcheck.

I'll let others speak to the technicalities - there were some issues regard the sigil.ini file that you may need to be made aware of. DD and/or KH can advise you best on that.

BR

Thanks very much, Red. I hear you about the IIABDFI notion, but the new versions entice! And I'm at a good place to make a transition. Thanks for the explanation of the the Page Edit function. I don't know if it will help me but I'll find out. And it's good to know 16 is solid.

Gregg Bell · 07-30-2019, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

You might actually have trouble upgrading to the latest Sigil on your linux system, Gregg. 0.9.16 and PageEdit work best with a very recent version of Qt. That would probably mean compiling them both yourself.

Thanks Diap. I was thinking of keeping 9.9 on the Linux computer and getting 9.16 on my Windows 10 computer, which is 64 bit. 9.16 and the page edit plugin (0.7.1) should work on the Windows 10 computer, right? And if I switch a file back and forth between 9.9 and 9.16 there should be no compatibility problems, right?

Gregg Bell · 07-30-2019, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrik

For me, the biggest change is the memory usage. But if you don't see that as a problem, you may want to stay where you are, at least until Qt catches up.

(If you do want to upgrade to the latest and don't want to compile Qt yourself, you can use this PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:beineri/opt-qt-5.12.3-bionic . Do remember to use it when doing the cmake.)

Thanks a lot, Patrik. Right now I'm just planning on getting 9.16 on my Windows 10 computer. If I ever try to get it on the Linux computer, I'll refer back to your reply.

eschwartz · 07-30-2019, 05:41 PM

If you're using Ubuntu Disco, then your qt version will be new enough that you can get the best out of the new Sigil/PageEdit versions.

Otherwise I would not bother. Faffing around with compiling programs from source is enough of a challenge for average users that you don't need to add infrastructure updates on top of that.

Gregg Bell · 07-30-2019, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eschwartz

If you're using Ubuntu Disco, then your qt version will be new enough that you can get the best out of the new Sigil/PageEdit versions.

Otherwise I would not bother. Faffing around with compiling programs from source is enough of a challenge for average users that you don't need to add infrastructure updates on top of that.

Thanks a lot, eschwartz. I'm using Xubuntu 18.04LTS. But yeah, I don't want to mess with the sort of things Patrik was saying if I don't have to. (What he said was way over my head and I would need tons of help to implement it.) I'll just keep 9.9 on the linux computer and try 9.16 on the Windows 10 computer.

DiapDealer · 07-31-2019, 08:26 AM

You shouldn't have any trouble using the different version on Windows, Gregg.

Gregg Bell · 07-31-2019, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiapDealer

You shouldn't have any trouble using the different version on Windows, Gregg.

Great. Thanks Diap.

07-29-2019, 09:37 PM	#1
Gregg Bell Gregg Bell Posts: 2,266 Karma: 3917598 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Itasca, Illinois Device: Kindle Touch 7, Sony PRS300, Fire HD8 Tablet	Any big advantage to upgrading from 9.9 and 9.10 for a writer? I've got 9.9 on a linux computer and 9.10 on a windows 10 computer. They both work amazingly well (thank you!) but I keep getting the alert that new versions are available (the latest being 9.16). I've glanced at the changes but can somebody give me their opinion if it would be worthwhile for me to upgrade and to what version, or as long as things are working for me with what I've got I should just hang with it. I'm just writinig novels for publishing on Amazon. Thanks. P.S. Like what does the page edit function (replacing BookView) do?

07-30-2019, 03:54 AM	#2
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,010 Karma: 30277294 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	First thought - IIABDFI In my experience, if you're going to upgrade any software, there's rarely any point in not upgrading to the latest official release version. And if you read the release notes for Sigil releases 0.9.11-15 you'll see there are specific reasons for avoiding some of those releases. On Windows version 0.9.16 seems to be rock solid. I never used Book View (it was several years before I even knew it existed) so I don't miss at all. But surprisingly I find Page Edit useful because I can see the effect of wysiwyg editing in the code inspector panel - and if I'm inclined I can edit the code in the inspector panel and see the effect in the wysiwig panel. The next version of PageEdit will probably have spellcheck. I'll let others speak to the technicalities - there were some issues regard the sigil.ini file that you may need to be made aware of. DD and/or KH can advise you best on that. BR Last edited by BetterRed; 07-30-2019 at 04:12 AM.

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DiapDealer Grand Sorcerer Posts: 28,880 Karma: 207000000 Join Date: Jan 2010 Device: Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD	You might actually have trouble upgrading to the latest Sigil on your linux system, Gregg. 0.9.16 and PageEdit work best with a very recent version of Qt. That would probably mean compiling them both yourself.

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patrik Guru Posts: 684 Karma: 4568205 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Sweden Device: Kobo Forma	For me, the biggest change is the memory usage. But if you don't see that as a problem, you may want to stay where you are, at least until Qt catches up. (If you do want to upgrade to the latest and don't want to compile Qt yourself, you can use this PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:beineri/opt-qt-5.12.3-bionic . Do remember to use it when doing the cmake.)

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