PW3 Get jailbreak back after reset?

Altarate · 07-25-2019, 04:37 AM

Hey Guys,

a few years ago I bought the Kindle PW3 and the first step was jailbreaking it.

I had no problems and everything was working fine.
After a lot of time not using the Kindle today I loaded and started it.
I noticed, that the Kindle upgraded to the Firmware 5.10.2 by itself.
I also recognized, that KUAL was not accesible anymore.

Then I made a huge mistake: I reseted the Kindle via the settings without knowing, that a downgrade from my Firmware is not possible.

Afterwards I tried to reinstall the Jailbreak again, which did not work.
The Kindle deletes the files by itself.

Is there any way to get the Jailbreak back to my device?

What is really interesting:
In the past I installed some custom screensavers.
Those are still (after the reset) working.
I remember, that I had to put the files in a folder named "screensavers" but this folder does not exist anymore after the reset.

Maybe the reset did not delete the Jailbreak?

I hope you can help me

Greetings

hius07 · 07-25-2019, 05:06 AM

The last chance is to try to install the hotfix
http://mr-public.auth-2ac4bfee353948...5.x-hotfix.zip

Altarate · 07-25-2019, 05:21 AM

Thanks for the answer.
So i just copy the update file to the kindle and select update in the settings?

Whats should I do afterwards?

hius07 · 07-25-2019, 05:28 AM

After (in case of) successful hotfix installation you'd reinstall booklet KUAL and all hacks you need.

Altarate · 07-25-2019, 05:37 AM

So I was able to install the Hotfix. The device restarted and I copyed KUAL to the documents folder. Unfortunately KUAL is still not showing up at my books :/

Altarate · 07-25-2019, 06:36 AM

Wow I just got KUAL working!
I used this turorial to install it: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=313086

Thank your for the help

!

ilovejedd · 07-25-2019, 10:39 AM

Just to expound on the matter, reset doesn't actually remove the jailbreak. Installing/updating firmware will remove the jailbreak. Reset does remove the hotfix though, which is what makes sure the jailbreak gets copied to the correct location after a firmware update.

As you have noticed, the KUAL azw2 document no longer works on new firmware (5.9 and above). Now, every time the firmware updates, you'll have to reinstall KUAL along with your other add-ons.

If I were you though, I'd install the KUAL Helper+ add-on now, use the Prevent OTA Update option and keep firmware on 5.11 or older. It seems Amazon's getting nastier with regards to JB on 5.12 onwards.

Altarate · 07-26-2019, 01:57 AM

Thanks for the answer!

I just installed KUAL Helper+ add-on and enabled the Prevent OTA Update option.
Just for my understanding:
After restarting KUAL this option is not activated anymore. Is it set in the background though?

ilovejedd · 07-26-2019, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altarate

I just installed KUAL Helper+ add-on and enabled the Prevent OTA Update option.
Just for my understanding:
After restarting KUAL this option is not activated anymore. Is it set in the background though?

That's weird. Mine still shows up. Anyway, all it does is create the update blocking directory and a SKIP_UPDATE_CHECK file somewhere in the root filesystem (can't recall exact location, maybe /var/local?). The updater on 5.11.x and older doesn't phone home to Amazon for firmware updates if it sees that file.

Alas, this doesn't work anymore on 5.12 and newer.

Altarate · 07-26-2019, 04:51 AM

I checked if the following stuff is beeing created via SSH:

/mnt/us/update.bin.tmp.partial directory
/var/local/system/SKIP_UPDATE_CHECK file

Both are existing so I guess I should be fine

knc1 · 07-26-2019, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altarate

I checked if the following stuff is beeing created via SSH:

/mnt/us/update.bin.tmp.partial directory
/var/local/system/SKIP_UPDATE_CHECK file

Both are existing so I guess I should be fine

Check the output of the:
;dm
search bar command (semi-colon required).
At least the "system" document will show if the device is trying to 'phone home' or not.

NiLuJe · 07-26-2019, 01:44 PM

That button is not dynamic, so, unless you somehow reinstalled an older Helper extension version, it has no reason to ever disappear.

If you meant the checkmark disappeared, that's perfectly normal. The checkmark is a transient GUI feature that just indicates a button has been clicked *in that session*.

07-25-2019, 04:37 AM	#1
Altarate Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2019 Device: PW3	Get jailbreak back after reset? Hey Guys, a few years ago I bought the Kindle PW3 and the first step was jailbreaking it. I had no problems and everything was working fine. After a lot of time not using the Kindle today I loaded and started it. I noticed, that the Kindle upgraded to the Firmware 5.10.2 by itself. I also recognized, that KUAL was not accesible anymore. Then I made a huge mistake: I reseted the Kindle via the settings without knowing, that a downgrade from my Firmware is not possible. Afterwards I tried to reinstall the Jailbreak again, which did not work. The Kindle deletes the files by itself. Is there any way to get the Jailbreak back to my device? What is really interesting: In the past I installed some custom screensavers. Those are still (after the reset) working. I remember, that I had to put the files in a folder named "screensavers" but this folder does not exist anymore after the reset. Maybe the reset did not delete the Jailbreak? I hope you can help me Greetings

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07-25-2019, 05:06 AM	#2
hius07 Wizard Posts: 1,179 Karma: 3592925 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Ukraine Device: Kindle	The last chance is to try to install the hotfix http://mr-public.auth-2ac4bfee353948...5.x-hotfix.zip

07-25-2019, 05:21 AM	#3
Altarate Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2019 Device: PW3	Thanks for the answer. So i just copy the update file to the kindle and select update in the settings? Whats should I do afterwards?

07-25-2019, 05:28 AM	#4
hius07 Wizard Posts: 1,179 Karma: 3592925 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Ukraine Device: Kindle	After (in case of) successful hotfix installation you'd reinstall booklet KUAL and all hacks you need.

07-25-2019, 05:37 AM	#5
Altarate Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2019 Device: PW3	So I was able to install the Hotfix. The device restarted and I copyed KUAL to the documents folder. Unfortunately KUAL is still not showing up at my books :/

07-25-2019, 06:36 AM	#6
Altarate Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2019 Device: PW3	Wow I just got KUAL working! I used this turorial to install it: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=313086 Thank your for the help !

07-25-2019, 10:39 AM	#7
ilovejedd hopeless n00b Posts: 5,110 Karma: 19597086 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: in the middle of nowhere Device: PW4, PW3, Libra H2O, iPad 10.5, iPad 11, iPad 12.9	Just to expound on the matter, reset doesn't actually remove the jailbreak. Installing/updating firmware will remove the jailbreak. Reset does remove the hotfix though, which is what makes sure the jailbreak gets copied to the correct location after a firmware update. As you have noticed, the KUAL azw2 document no longer works on new firmware (5.9 and above). Now, every time the firmware updates, you'll have to reinstall KUAL along with your other add-ons. If I were you though, I'd install the KUAL Helper+ add-on now, use the Prevent OTA Update option and keep firmware on 5.11 or older. It seems Amazon's getting nastier with regards to JB on 5.12 onwards.

07-26-2019, 01:57 AM	#8
Altarate Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2019 Device: PW3	Thanks for the answer! I just installed KUAL Helper+ add-on and enabled the Prevent OTA Update option. Just for my understanding: After restarting KUAL this option is not activated anymore. Is it set in the background though?

07-26-2019, 04:51 AM	#10
Altarate Junior Member Posts: 6 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jul 2019 Device: PW3	I checked if the following stuff is beeing created via SSH: /mnt/us/update.bin.tmp.partial directory /var/local/system/SKIP_UPDATE_CHECK file Both are existing so I guess I should be fine

07-26-2019, 01:44 PM	#12
NiLuJe BLAM! Posts: 13,506 Karma: 26047202 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Paris, France Device: Kindle 2i, 3g, 4, 5w, PW, PW2, PW5; Kobo H2O, Forma, Elipsa, Sage, C2E	That button is not dynamic, so, unless you somehow reinstalled an older Helper extension version, it has no reason to ever disappear. If you meant the checkmark disappeared, that's perfectly normal. The checkmark is a transient GUI feature that just indicates a button has been clicked in that session.

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