E-ink webpage news

ProDigit · 10-21-2008, 12:10 PM

On eink.com they are talking about releasing their own prototypes of devices (which they allready released the 6" 800x600 version, 3bit greyscale = 6 grey levels).

The prototypes they hope to release around Q1 2009 are 4bit (or 16 grey level) versions:
5" 800x600
8" 1024x768
9.7" 1200x825

here are further specs:
• Gumstix™ single-board computer, Marvell
XScale® PXA255 processor
• Linux operating system pre-installed
• Multiple input-output options: Bluetooth,
serial over USB
• MMC/USB card (512MB card included)
• Expansion board with four
software-configurable buttons

here is more info:
• E Ink Vizplex™ imaging film
• EPSON S1D13521 display controller
•16-level grayscale image support
• Fast update speed - pen input, text input,
basic animation and pop-up windowing
• Linux software platform
• Display utilities and sample code
• Bluetooth and USB connectivity
• Battery operation
• 2x Li-ion battery with over 4000 mW of power.

Technical data can be found here:
http://www.eink.com/kits/amepd.html
http://www.eink.com/kits/broadsheets...eet_041408.pdf

Thoughts may be that manufacturers like Sony, netronix, irex technologies, and Jinke Electronics might copy a great deal from the prototypes created by e-ink; definately improve on design, and maybe come up with few other tricks on their sleeves.

I'm not a very 'bluetooth' fan, but it might be that the next gen will have bluetooth; maybe good if it would support bluetooth keyboards.

Also, we don't yet know what 'fast display update speed' means..

Boreras · 10-22-2008, 08:30 AM

I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure this news is very old (half a year or so). Not to be rude or anything, but those specs match my memory exactly, so I can't spot anything new.

Ivoch · 10-22-2008, 09:15 AM

Indeed, those developer's kits have been around for a while. Also don't forget to check the prices!

ProDigit · 10-22-2008, 10:56 AM

yeah, they're prototypes,
however they say they haven't released the 5,8,and 9.7" yet..
Maybe their webpage is outdated..

Dylrob · 10-22-2008, 03:33 PM

Wait, shouldn't 3 bit be 8 shades of gray?

000 = 0(1)
001 = 1(2)
010 = 2(3)
011 = 3(4)
100 = 4(5)
101 = 5(6)
110 = 6(7)
111 = 7(8)

JSWolf · 10-22-2008, 03:37 PM

The 4 bit 16 shade versions are to be released Q1 2009. They are not the same old ones. These are new.

ProDigit · 10-22-2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylrob

Wait, shouldn't 3 bit be 8 shades of gray?

000 = 0(1)
001 = 1(2)
010 = 2(3)
011 = 3(4)
100 = 4(5)
101 = 5(6)
110 = 6(7)
111 = 7(8)

Indeed, like the Sony PRS-505 = 3 bit greyscale.

athlonkmf · 10-23-2008, 04:05 AM

so still no sign for new technology. How long has vizplex been out?
I think other technologies will be catching up soon then.

NatCh · 10-23-2008, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by athlonkmf

How long has vizplex been out?

A bit over a year. The first production Vizplex device was the Sony PRS505, which launched on 10/02/08 07.

E-Ink devices have been out considerably longer than that, and so far other technologies don't seem to be doing much in the way of catching up, not so you'd notice, anyway.

pilotbob · 10-23-2008, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatCh

A bit over a year. The first production Vizplex device was the Sony PRS505, which launched on 10/02/08.

Um... 10/2/8 was two weeks ago. Right?

BOb

NatCh · 10-23-2008, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotbob

Um... 10/2/8 was two weeks ago. Right?

Um, yeah, that should be "07."

Thanks for the catch, pilotbob.

ProDigit · 10-23-2008, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatCh

A bit over a year. The first production Vizplex device was the Sony PRS505, which launched on 10/02/08 07.

E-Ink devices have been out considerably longer than that, and so far other technologies don't seem to be doing much in the way of catching up, not so you'd notice, anyway.

hum? Please come again?

NatCh · 10-23-2008, 11:55 AM

I was answering athlonkmf's question about how long Vizplex (the current generation of e-ink) has been out, and to his thought that other display technologies were catching up to e-ink.

Does that make it any clearer, ProDigit?

pilotbob · 10-23-2008, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatCh

E-Ink devices have been out considerably longer than that, and so far other technologies don't seem to be doing much in the way of catching up, not so you'd notice, anyway.

Wasn't the Sony 500 the first production eink device in Oct 06? Or was it just the first eInk ebook reader?

NatCh · 10-23-2008, 12:13 PM

Neither.

Back in '03 the EBR-1000EP, AKA Sony Librie, was the first e-ink device, and dedicated e-ink reading device.

And the iLiad was shipping several months before the PRS500.

10-21-2008, 12:10 PM	#1
ProDigit Karmaniac Posts: 2,553 Karma: 11499146 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Miami FL Device: PRS-505, Jetbook, + Mini, +Color, Astak Ez Reader Pro, PPW1, Aura H2O	E-ink webpage news On eink.com they are talking about releasing their own prototypes of devices (which they allready released the 6" 800x600 version, 3bit greyscale = 6 grey levels). The prototypes they hope to release around Q1 2009 are 4bit (or 16 grey level) versions: 5" 800x600 8" 1024x768 9.7" 1200x825 here are further specs: • Gumstix™ single-board computer, Marvell XScale® PXA255 processor • Linux operating system pre-installed • Multiple input-output options: Bluetooth, serial over USB • MMC/USB card (512MB card included) • Expansion board with four software-configurable buttons here is more info: • E Ink Vizplex™ imaging film • EPSON S1D13521 display controller •16-level grayscale image support • Fast update speed - pen input, text input, basic animation and pop-up windowing • Linux software platform • Display utilities and sample code • Bluetooth and USB connectivity • Battery operation • 2x Li-ion battery with over 4000 mW of power. Technical data can be found here: http://www.eink.com/kits/amepd.html http://www.eink.com/kits/broadsheets...eet_041408.pdf Thoughts may be that manufacturers like Sony, netronix, irex technologies, and Jinke Electronics might copy a great deal from the prototypes created by e-ink; definately improve on design, and maybe come up with few other tricks on their sleeves. I'm not a very 'bluetooth' fan, but it might be that the next gen will have bluetooth; maybe good if it would support bluetooth keyboards. Also, we don't yet know what 'fast display update speed' means..

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10-22-2008, 08:30 AM	#2
Boreras Connoisseur Posts: 50 Karma: 12642 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: TBA	I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure this news is very old (half a year or so). Not to be rude or anything, but those specs match my memory exactly, so I can't spot anything new.

10-22-2008, 09:15 AM	#3
Ivoch Enthusiast Posts: 34 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Germany Device: Cybook Gen3	Indeed, those developer's kits have been around for a while. Also don't forget to check the prices!

10-22-2008, 10:56 AM	#4
ProDigit Karmaniac Posts: 2,553 Karma: 11499146 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Miami FL Device: PRS-505, Jetbook, + Mini, +Color, Astak Ez Reader Pro, PPW1, Aura H2O	yeah, they're prototypes, however they say they haven't released the 5,8,and 9.7" yet.. Maybe their webpage is outdated..

10-22-2008, 03:33 PM	#5
Dylrob Murderous Mustela Posts: 10,234 Karma: 48000000 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The other land of schnitzel and beer Device: iPad M1 Pro, Kindle Paperwhite	Wait, shouldn't 3 bit be 8 shades of gray? 000 = 0(1) 001 = 1(2) 010 = 2(3) 011 = 3(4) 100 = 4(5) 101 = 5(6) 110 = 6(7) 111 = 7(8)

10-22-2008, 03:37 PM	#6
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 78,973 Karma: 144284074 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	The 4 bit 16 shade versions are to be released Q1 2009. They are not the same old ones. These are new.

10-23-2008, 04:05 AM	#8
athlonkmf Guru Posts: 714 Karma: 1014039 Join Date: May 2007 Device: Sony PRS-500, Sony PRS-505, Kindle 3, Sony PRS350, iPad 64GB	so still no sign for new technology. How long has vizplex been out? I think other technologies will be catching up soon then.

10-23-2008, 11:55 AM	#13
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	I was answering athlonkmf's question about how long Vizplex (the current generation of e-ink) has been out, and to his thought that other display technologies were catching up to e-ink. Does that make it any clearer, ProDigit?

10-23-2008, 12:13 PM	#15
NatCh Gizmologist Posts: 11,615 Karma: 929550 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Embassy at Jackson, TN Device: Pocketbook Touch HD3	Neither. Back in '03 the EBR-1000EP, AKA Sony Librie, was the first e-ink device, and dedicated e-ink reading device. And the iLiad was shipping several months before the PRS500.

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