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Old 06-05-2017, 08:13 PM   #1
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I just published my first ebook on Amazon and iBooks.

I typed my name into Amazon and came up with THREE books. I self-published two paperbacks long ago. One is a pretty decent book (I think), but I did a horrible job on the other one. Yet someone's trying to sell a copy of the horrible book for $80.

I also found the following: "Seabird monitoring at Aiktak Island, Aleutian Islands, Alaska in 1989"

I worked in the Aleutian Islands for the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service many years ago. I spent maybe one week on a really tiny island called Aiktak and probably typed up a brief report.

It says "Out of Print," but how could this even be listed on Amazon? Scientific reports written for government agencies are in the public domain, so anyone could digitize it and sell it (or give it away for free), but if they're going to focus on a report as minor as this, then they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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Old 06-05-2017, 08:49 PM   #2
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Amazon probably scraped a govt archive somewhere for a list of publications, and then added them all to their database.
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Old 06-05-2017, 09:07 PM   #3
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Amazon probably scraped a govt archive somewhere for a list of publications, and then added them all to their database.
Wow, sounds a little unhinged to me. I can understand acquiring a list of government publications that can be studied for commercial potential. But I wouldn't list an obscure scientific study that isn't even available.

Interesting.
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Old 06-05-2017, 11:22 PM   #4
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I just published my first ebook on Amazon and iBooks.

I typed my name into Amazon and came up with THREE books. I self-published two paperbacks long ago. One is a pretty decent book (I think), but I did a horrible job on the other one. Yet someone's trying to sell a copy of the horrible book for $80.

I also found the following: "Seabird monitoring at Aiktak Island, Aleutian Islands, Alaska in 1989"

I worked in the Aleutian Islands for the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service many years ago. I spent maybe one week on a really tiny island called Aiktak and probably typed up a brief report.

It says "Out of Print," but how could this even be listed on Amazon? Scientific reports written for government agencies are in the public domain, so anyone could digitize it and sell it (or give it away for free), but if they're going to focus on a report as minor as this, then they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
I just got not available on your report.
Now on your book, someone thinks you are worth money.
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Old 06-06-2017, 04:50 PM   #5
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But I wouldn't list an obscure scientific study that isn't even available.
At a certain size of operations, it is cheaper to simply list everything, regardless of availability, than drop items that are no longer available.

OTOH, Amazon does occasionally scrub titles that are no longer available.

I've been looking for a non-pirated edition of The Gospel of Judas of Keiroth for more than a decade. All I've ever found, are pirated editions from the mid-eighties.
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Old 06-06-2017, 06:14 PM   #6
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At a certain size of operations, it is cheaper to simply list everything, regardless of availability, than drop items that are no longer available.

OTOH, Amazon does occasionally scrub titles that are no longer available.

I've been looking for a non-pirated edition of The Gospel of Judas of Keiroth for more than a decade. All I've ever found, are pirated editions from the mid-eighties.
Amazon does drop titles that violate trademark or copyright laws.
Oh and on the trademark violations, they may or may not give the author 24 hours to correct it.
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Old 06-06-2017, 06:16 PM   #7
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Wow, sounds a little unhinged to me. I can understand acquiring a list of government publications that can be studied for commercial potential. But I wouldn't list an obscure scientific study that isn't even available.

Interesting.
The reason for listing everything is to allow third-party sellers to offer copies for sale. It's not possible to sell a book on Amazon that's not in their database. I've bought amazingly obscure Egyptology texts on Amazon that haven't been in print for 100 years, but because Amazon knows about them, people with copies can sell them on Amazon.
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I just got not available on your report.
Now on your book, someone thinks you are worth money.
LOL - I wish. I wrote that book when I was a teacher-turned-whistleblower. It's a very honest, truthful book, but I was new to writing, and I did an absolutely horrible job. I may rewrite it some day, but I wouldn't encourage anyone to pay ten cents for the original.

My best guess is that one of my targets is just making fun of me.

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My best guess is that one of my targets is just making fun of me.
Amazon also has sellers with robots that will offer stuff and set prices, and sometimes the robots will go crazy and decide to keep raising the price.
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Amazon also has sellers with robots that will offer stuff and set prices, and sometimes the robots will go crazy and decide to keep raising the price.
Or lowering it.

Even without robots, vendors can list merchandise they have access to but not in stock. Then, when they receive an order, they buy it from the distributor and ship it out, often straight from the distributor.

Amazon got their start that way.
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Amazon uses some weird database. I was once googling my father's name to see what would come up and he's listed as an author on Amazon. Looks like some old papers or reports he wrote for the State of Illionis when he worked in various prisons there in the late 1960's. None are available, of course. He died before Amazon even came into existence.
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Amazon uses some weird database. I was once googling my father's name to see what would come up and he's listed as an author on Amazon. Looks like some old papers or reports he wrote for the State of Illionis when he worked in various prisons there in the late 1960's. None are available, of course. He died before Amazon even came into existence.
It's more likely that some "enterprising entrepreneur" has gone digging through government catalogs and various public domain sites and listed stuff from them for sale at Amazon.
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It's more likely that some "enterprising entrepreneur" has gone digging through government catalogs and various public domain sites and listed stuff from them for sale at Amazon.

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