Any reason to keep a kindle keyboard?

Sydney's Mom · 04-08-2017, 11:11 PM

Both my husband and I have a PW (he has a later generation, I have the first one (because he left his in an airplane pocket, for the 2d time)). I wonder if there is any reason to keep it? I saw someone singing the praises of a KKeyboard, but now I can't find it.

Should I keep it, or just trade it in?

Cinisajoy · 04-08-2017, 11:30 PM

You reminded me I need to update my new kk. I like the feel of it.

darryl · 04-08-2017, 11:42 PM

The main utility in keeping the Keyboard is that it is new enough to support kf8 (from which DRM can be removed) and old enough not to support kfx (from which DRM cannot be removed). Having a Keyboard on your Amazon account means that you will still be able to obtain azw and azw3 files from which drm can be removed even if Amazon start making only kfx files available for devices which support that format. Mind you, the 1st generation Paperwhite which you have also does not currently support kfx, though presumably it would be easier and more likely for Amazon to add kfx support to this device than the older Keyboard.

If you're not concerned with removing DRM and you have no particular preference or affection for the Keyboard, there is no real reason to keep it that I can think of.

Barbara1955 · 04-09-2017, 01:18 AM

Wait & trade next time Amazon offers the extra $25 towards a New e-reader... other wise All you get is $15

& IF the New readers is on sale at the same time you also get that discounted

I remove DRM from kfx all the time now with no problems! Buy e-book on Amazon Remove DRM change to epub add to my Kobo

AnemicOak · 04-09-2017, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Katie1

I remove DRM from kfx all the time now with no problems! Buy e-book on Amazon Remove DRM change to epub add to my Kobo

That's hard to believe since KFX can't have the DRM removed right now. Are you sure they aren't AZW or AZW3 format books?

HarryT · 04-09-2017, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Katie1

I remove DRM from kfx all the time now with no problems! Buy e-book on Amazon Remove DRM change to epub add to my Kobo

No you don't. KFX DRM has not been "cracked".

Blossom · 04-09-2017, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sydney's Mom

Both my husband and I have a PW (he has a later generation, I have the first one (because he left his in an airplane pocket, for the 2d time)). I wonder if there is any reason to keep it? I saw someone singing the praises of a KKeyboard, but now I can't find it.

Should I keep it, or just trade it in?

Keep it. They don't make readers like them anymore. Plus the battery is replaceable from what I read. I charged mine tonight. After seven years still going strong. Mine has 3G which is nice for traveling.

Sent from my Nexus 7

Barbara1955 · 04-09-2017, 05:42 AM

Back a few months ago I purchased several e-books I Could NOT get the DRM removed. [I posted about it.] I even Stopped buying e-books from Amazon! I was so annoyed. Then about a month ago I tried again! And ALL the e-books worked! I went back & started buying Amazon again not had 1 problem. Brian & Harry YOU were the 1st 2 people that Told me they were from my description they were KFX & would not could not be drm removed.... Yet I removing them & the Only thing that changed was a few updates on Calibre.

darryl · 04-09-2017, 05:56 AM

@Katie1. I am pleased to hear both that you are buying from Amazon and successfully removing the DRM with no problems. But I can assure you that there is currently no known method of removing DRM from KFX files. So you must be getting KF8 files somehow. Perhaps you are using an earlier version of K4PC?

Cinisajoy · 04-09-2017, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Katie1

Back a few months ago I purchased several e-books I Could NOT get the DRM removed. [I posted about it.] I even Stopped buying e-books from Amazon! I was so annoyed. Then about a month ago I tried again! And ALL the e-books worked! I went back & started buying Amazon again not had 1 problem. Brian & Harry YOU were the 1st 2 people that Told me they were from my description they were KFX & would not could not be drm removed.... Yet I removing them & the Only thing that changed was a few updates on Calibre.

Please tell us in exact detail what you updated in Calibre.

Oh and Brian & Harry told you they might be kfx not they were kfx.
Since you removed them and updated Calibre, that tells me it was a Calibre problem not a file format.

montalex · 04-09-2017, 09:41 PM

As was mentioned, you can easily change the battery in a Kindle Keyboard -- not so on later models. And the browser is open, allowing you to do things you cannot do on newer Kindles, such as read and reply to email. I've easily replaced screens, motherboards, keyboards and faceplates on my several Kindles. The only thing that tempts me about newer models is the lighting! I'm still clipping a light on my Kindle cases to read in the dark. And they suck on the beach or at the park in the sun.

Sydney's Mom · 04-10-2017, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darryl

The main utility in keeping the Keyboard is that it is new enough to support kf8 (from which DRM can be removed) and old enough not to support kfx (from which DRM cannot be removed). Having a Keyboard on your Amazon account means that you will still be able to obtain azw and azw3 files from which drm can be removed even if Amazon start making only kfx files available for devices which support that format. Mind you, the 1st generation Paperwhite which you have also does not currently support kfx, though presumably it would be easier and more likely for Amazon to add kfx support to this device than the older Keyboard.

If you're not concerned with removing DRM and you have no particular preference or affection for the Keyboard, there is no real reason to keep it that I can think of.

You hit the nail on the head! Thanks

Sydney's Mom · 04-10-2017, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katie1

Wait & trade next time Amazon offers the extra $25 towards a New e-reader... other wise All you get is $15

& IF the New readers is on sale at the same time you also get that discounted

I remove DRM from kfx all the time now with no problems! Buy e-book on Amazon Remove DRM change to epub add to my Kobo

I did this recently when they offered $20, and $18 for the kindle touch. Never got the $20. They seem to be going through some growing pains-I ordered a gift card through Alexa, where I was supposed to get a $5 credit, and never got it. And they had me sign for face cloths the other day!

Kasrielle · 04-10-2017, 06:38 PM

I thought I didn't need my old keyboard - until I lost my PW and was in the middle of a good book! It took Amazon a week to get my new PW to me in my little back corner of Canada, and in the meantime I was able to load the keyboard and keep reading.

Barbara1955 · 04-10-2017, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sydney's Mom

I did this recently when they offered $20, and $18 for the kindle touch. Never got the $20. They seem to be going through some growing pains-I ordered a gift card through Alexa, where I was supposed to get a $5 credit, and never got it. And they had me sign for face cloths the other day!

Yes it was $20 & $18.... Plus the PW3 was on sale for $99... I ended up paying something like $60 for the PW3.
Did you contact CS when you didn't get the discounts you were promised?

04-08-2017, 11:11 PM	#1
Sydney's Mom Wizard Posts: 2,899 Karma: 6995721 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Idaho, on the side of a mountain Device: Kindle Oasis, Fire 3d Gen and 5th Gen and Samsung Tab S	Any reason to keep a kindle keyboard? Both my husband and I have a PW (he has a later generation, I have the first one (because he left his in an airplane pocket, for the 2d time)). I wonder if there is any reason to keep it? I saw someone singing the praises of a KKeyboard, but now I can't find it. Should I keep it, or just trade it in?

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04-08-2017, 11:30 PM	#2
Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	You reminded me I need to update my new kk. I like the feel of it.

04-08-2017, 11:42 PM	#3
darryl Wizard Posts: 3,108 Karma: 60231510 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura H2O, Kindle Oasis, Huwei Ascend Mate 7	The main utility in keeping the Keyboard is that it is new enough to support kf8 (from which DRM can be removed) and old enough not to support kfx (from which DRM cannot be removed). Having a Keyboard on your Amazon account means that you will still be able to obtain azw and azw3 files from which drm can be removed even if Amazon start making only kfx files available for devices which support that format. Mind you, the 1st generation Paperwhite which you have also does not currently support kfx, though presumably it would be easier and more likely for Amazon to add kfx support to this device than the older Keyboard. If you're not concerned with removing DRM and you have no particular preference or affection for the Keyboard, there is no real reason to keep it that I can think of.

04-09-2017, 01:18 AM	#4
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	Wait & trade next time Amazon offers the extra $25 towards a New e-reader... other wise All you get is $15 & IF the New readers is on sale at the same time you also get that discounted I remove DRM from kfx all the time now with no problems! Buy e-book on Amazon Remove DRM change to epub add to my Kobo

04-09-2017, 05:42 AM	#8
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	Back a few months ago I purchased several e-books I Could NOT get the DRM removed. [I posted about it.] I even Stopped buying e-books from Amazon! I was so annoyed. Then about a month ago I tried again! And ALL the e-books worked! I went back & started buying Amazon again not had 1 problem. Brian & Harry YOU were the 1st 2 people that Told me they were from my description they were KFX & would not could not be drm removed.... Yet I removing them & the Only thing that changed was a few updates on Calibre.

04-09-2017, 05:56 AM	#9
darryl Wizard Posts: 3,108 Karma: 60231510 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Aura H2O, Kindle Oasis, Huwei Ascend Mate 7	@Katie1. I am pleased to hear both that you are buying from Amazon and successfully removing the DRM with no problems. But I can assure you that there is currently no known method of removing DRM from KFX files. So you must be getting KF8 files somehow. Perhaps you are using an earlier version of K4PC?

04-09-2017, 09:41 PM	#11
montalex Fanatic Posts: 556 Karma: 1283268 Join Date: Mar 2010 Device: KindleDX,Kindle 4, Kindle Keyboard 3G	As was mentioned, you can easily change the battery in a Kindle Keyboard -- not so on later models. And the browser is open, allowing you to do things you cannot do on newer Kindles, such as read and reply to email. I've easily replaced screens, motherboards, keyboards and faceplates on my several Kindles. The only thing that tempts me about newer models is the lighting! I'm still clipping a light on my Kindle cases to read in the dark. And they suck on the beach or at the park in the sun.

04-10-2017, 06:38 PM	#14
Kasrielle Enthusiast Posts: 36 Karma: 10 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sunshine Coast BC, Canada Device: Kindle Paperwhite, Kindle Keyboard	I thought I didn't need my old keyboard - until I lost my PW and was in the middle of a good book! It took Amazon a week to get my new PW to me in my little back corner of Canada, and in the meantime I was able to load the keyboard and keep reading.

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