1st time purchase, no clue what to look for.

w33 · 11-26-2016, 02:12 PM

I'm looking to purchase ereader for the first time but honestly got no idea what features they got and what should I be looking to dodge. Can someone recommend buyer's guide or something of the sort.

I'd also welcome recommendations:

Looking for something that's rather new, runs smoothly and has good build. Would prefer if the device has minimal amounts of plastic and logos around the screen.
Waterproof is bonus and would like to be able to open as many formats as possible.

I also noted that some devices show ads while you read (??) and that doesn't sound like good times to me.

About screen size 6" is what I'm looking for unless there are some new models that are 5".
The more space the better.
I'm not sure if there's coloured eink, but if there is that's something I'd be interested unless it's stupidly expensive.
I don't really care about connectivity as long as it has mini usb port.

Can't think about much else right now.

Cinisajoy · 11-26-2016, 02:48 PM

No, they do not show ads while you read. The kindles can come with special offers which are on the sleep screen and the bottom of the home page but not in the books themselves.
As far as the build goes they are pretty much identical.

Where are you planning to get your books from?
Are you planning to convert?
Most places like project Gutenberg and Smashwords typically offer a choice of formats. So does the library here on Mobileread.
Kobo is the only one that is waterproof at the moment.
Do you want a lighted one or a non-lighted one?

I have both a kindle and a Kobo.
I prefer the Amazon store to Kobo.

HarryT · 11-26-2016, 03:04 PM

Did you really mean to say that you wanted a 6' (six feet) screen? The most common screen size is 6" (six inches).

The ability to read a choice of formats is really not necessary. There are only two common ebook formats: Kindle format (used by Amazon) and ePub (pretty much everyone else). It's very easy to convert books between these two formats.

The biggest players in the business are Amazon (far and away the largest) and Kobo (a distant second). Every other manufacturer is small fry by comparison. Kobo give you more formatting options; Amazon have more stable firmware, a better bookstore, and hugely better customer service.

w33 · 11-26-2016, 03:27 PM

Where are you planning to get your books from?
-Don't really have a preference, the bigger store the better ... I guess?

Are you planning to convert?
-Don't mind doing it, IF the converting doesn't cause problems or bugs to the book.

Kobo is the only one that is waterproof at the moment.
-Isn't the nook plus glowlight waterproof too, or do you not recommend nooks?

Do you want a lighted one or a non-lighted one?
-I'd like to have the option to have turn on light, saw several pics where some readers have slider for how strong it should be; is this a common feature?

I have both a kindle and a Kobo. I prefer the Amazon store to Kobo.
-Any reason for that? I don't have particular brand allegiances

It's very easy to convert books between these two formats.
-Does it always convert properly?

...
-Is quality really similar? Also what about brands like Nook & Pocketbook, are they not recommended.
And also, by better bookstore do you mean better selection or better prices?

6 foot joke
-typo

JKenP · 11-26-2016, 04:15 PM

Just how user controlled do you want it to be? DRM abounds but can be defeated. If you want to store the books on your computer, look at Calibre. It can install books on readers from your storage and do a number of other neat things to give you the most control.

Kobo and Kindle are both excellent first experiences. The more you spend the more features you'll have. However, an entry level model makes a good starting point. The Kobo is more versatile because epub are the choice everywhere but Amazon. If you are happy being locked into Amazon, they are a good value.

HarryT · 11-26-2016, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JKenP

The Kobo is more versatile because epub are the choice everywhere but Amazon. If you are happy being locked into Amazon, they are a good value.

That's a somewhat misleading statement. It's pretty much irrelevant that most non-Amazon bookstores sell ePub, because they all sell the same books. There are more books (considerably more, in fact) available through Amazon, because Amazon have a lot of exclusives. Pretty much the only benefit of ePub is if you want to borrow library books.

Buying a Kindle certainly doesn't "lock" you into Amazon; I read on a Kindle, but the majority of my books were bought from sites other than Amazon (a lot from Baen, for example).

There are pros and cons with all devices, but you really can't go wrong with either Amazon or Kobo.

Cinisajoy · 11-26-2016, 05:15 PM

I bought a Kobo first, then got the kindle because I like the Amazon store better.

Cinisajoy · 11-26-2016, 05:17 PM

Adding to what HarryT said. You can get an Amazon format from many places.
You are not locked into any store.

church mouse · 11-26-2016, 05:18 PM

I have used both Kindles and Kobos. Both make good readers but, at the moment, unless you can find a Kobo Glo HD, Kobo have rather handed the 6" reader field over to Kindles for sharp, 300 dpi readers.

I also feel that if you were unsure if you wanted to get in to sideloading to a computer and stripping drm, then the Amazon Kindle can't be beaten for a new starter. (As HarryT said, their customer support is superior to Kobo too)

The Pocketbook Touch HD and the Tolino Vision 4 HD have the latest 300 dpi screens and some nice features but I am not sure I would recommend either as a first reader (unless you live in German speaking or central Europe). I happen to use a Tolino Vision 3 HD myself and have been very impressed with it, but I would not recommend it to a friend as a first e-reader unless I was certain that they wanted to mess with sideloading books. (Most of the e-reader people I know just want to buy and download direct to their reader, no matter what the benefits of Calibre and side loading can be).

Downloading to a computer, stripping drm, converting formats rarely have a negative impact on a book and sometimes can allow one to fix/improve a poorly formatted book but none of these things are necessary to enjoy ereading.

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w33 · 11-26-2016, 05:24 PM

OK so what features would I be looking at once I pick the brand? I'd appreciate it if you guys focus on me and not on brand wars

Is there any other features except lighting up the screen I should know of?

Is the converting between formats bug free? For example I won't get poorly formatted epub if I convert mobi and the other way around.

Also can you recommend specific model with not too much plastic around the screen? All the readers I see have more of that than my monitor.

And what about stuff like Nook Glow Plus, is it bad? Overpriced? Any reason you aren't recommending it?

Cinisajoy · 11-26-2016, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w33

OK so what features would I be looking at once I pick the brand? I'd appreciate it if you guys focus on me and not on brand wars

Is there any other features except lighting up the screen I should know of?

Is the converting between formats bug free? For example I won't get poorly formatted epub if I convert mobi and the other way around.

Also can you recommend specific model with not too much plastic around the screen? All the readers I see have more of that than my monitor.

And what about stuff like Nook Glow Plus, is it bad? Overpriced? Any reason you aren't recommending it?

The reason we aren't recommending the Nook is because there are no new ones, the customer service is non-existent. And the bookstore is not that good.

If you really want a Nook get a Nook, but don't be surprised if you lose any books you buy. Expect customer service to flat out lie. And note: they are not making new Nooks because the Nook was sold and is no longer part of Barnes & Noble.
I tried them first. They tie any books you buy to your credit card and your email. Change either you lose everything you bought from them.
But if you want to take a chance, go for it.
You couldn't pay me to buy a Nook.

If you want a light and waterproofing either go with a Kobo or go through waterfi and get a paperwhite.

robko · 11-26-2016, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w33

And what about stuff like Nook Glow Plus, is it bad? Overpriced? Any reason you aren't recommending it?

Nook basically dropped out of the e-reader business a few years ago. You can still get the Glow Plus, but support is basically gone and you're not likely to ever get any updates. That's likely why people aren't recommending it.

Feature wise: Kobo gives you more font sizes and you can change weight of fonts, more line spacing and left/right margin options, easier to put your own fonts on, a lot of different mods that don't require rooting. Customer Service is a little hit and miss.

Kindle has great customer service, a bigger store selection, some people like the simpler options. There are also functions like X-ray which I'll let others comment on as I don't have a Kindle. The dictionaries are also apparently better and you can buy and add dictionaries on the Kindle (can't on Kobo).

Depending which device you get, many of the Kobo's are Infra-red touch rather than capacitive touch which some people love and others hate (especially for highlighting). YMMV.

barryem · 11-26-2016, 06:34 PM

I don't quite agree about the Nook. I have a Nook Glowlight Plus, their newest ereader. They're still selling them. Except for a couple of big flaws they're really pretty nice. The big problem is the capacative home button which, if I touch it while reading, takes me back to the home page. I rarely get through a page without that happening. It's pretty irritating.

The other problem with the Nook is that it's dictionary is grayed out and I can't read it. Also their customer service is rather poor.

Other than those two problems it's every bit as good as a Kindle and Kobo. To me those are big problems so I don't use mine much. To a lot of people they're not bothered by those issues and they love the thing.

The Nook Glowlight Plus is also waterproof. I'm not sure how important that is. It's not something I care about but it's there if you want it.

My preferred ereader is a Kindle Voyage or a Paperwhite. I have both. I like the Voyage a bit more but it costs a lot more. Both are very solid and stable and everything works just the way you hope it will all the time. When you do have issues Amazon has great customer service.

I also have a Kobo Aura, one of their older ereaders, and I like it a lot. It's screen isn't as good as the Kindle or the Nook's screen but the newer Kobos have screens as good as the others. The Aura is older technology. That said, it's a decent screen. The newer ones have excellent screens.

The Kobo store isn't as good but it's okay. My two experiences with Kobo customer service have been pretty bad. They're nearly impossible to get in touch with. Once I did (it took nearly two weeks of trying every day) they were helpful.

Considered simply as reading devices I think Kindle and Kobo are the better choices. Kindle is more stable. Everything just works. Kobo has more ability to control fonts, etc. and they work a lot of the time. They fail to work a lot too. I buy my books from Amazon and convert them and side-load them to the Kobo and I use whatever font features happen to work. But reading on it is always still a good experience. The features that sometimes fail on the Kobo don't exist on the other readers so not much is lost.

There's a freeware program called Calibre that's excellent for converting between formats. It's trivial to use and extremely quick and very reliable. I can load it, drag a book into it and convert it to the other format and have it ready to go in less than a minute. It also does bulk conversions so doing a bunch at a time is about as easy.

Books converted between formats are usually as good in either format. Sometimes a table of contents won't convert correctly because of a problem with the way it's formatted. Calibre also supplies tools to fix that. But 99.9% of the books convert with no problem at all.

Calibre also lets you install your own fonts if you aren't happy with the fonts in the various readers. I use this occasionally for some special reason but I'm fine with the readers fonts as a rule.

I suggest a Kindle or a Kobo. Make sure you get one with a light. Which model doesn't matter that much. They're all good. There aren't any to avoid. None of them have problems. Chances are whichever you choose will be fine and you'll feel like you made the right choice. Especially if it's a Kindle Voyage. I'm entitled to a little prejudice, I think.

Barry

meeera · 11-26-2016, 09:35 PM

The reason there is a bezel around the screen is that unlike a monitor, you need to hold the device. Having the screen go edge-to-edge (or nearly so) would mean you would be restricted to a palm hold, like a phone, which for most people is not comfortable for any length of time for a reader larger than five inches.

The next important question is: what do you read? A reader who reads mostly novels has very different needs from someone who is reading graphic novels and complex scientific papers.

Next: what country do you live in? Only one country that I'm aware of has Kindle library ebook borrowing. In all the rest, you need to look elsewhere if you're a library user. Your country will also influence what devices are readily available to buy.

Next: are you happy to read with someone else's ideas of fonts, and a limited choice of font sizes, line spacing, and margins? Or are you keen to customise quite finely to your own preferences?

Next: do you want a device that can sync up reading and audiobook listening with the same book, so that you can move from one to the other? Or is that a non-starter?

Next: are you expecting to end up with a large collection of books that you want to easily manage into shelves (collections), or are you a person who would just put a handful of books on your device and not be bothered about organising them?

Next: you mention colour, but also eink. If you want a decent coloured screen, you're looking at a tablet, not an eink reader. The tradeoffs there are shorter battery life, difficulty reading in sunlight, and (for some, not all) more potential for eystrain. The main pluses are flexibility (a variety of ebook apps and other apps), faster smoother reading of PDFs, and colour.

w33 · 11-27-2016, 05:09 AM

DRM, etc.
-I'm not sure how it works for books but I'd like to be able to store books I buy on my pc too, as well as be able to buy&download on my pc and then upload to the ereader. Are any of the brands limited in that sense?

what do you read?
-I can limit myself to reading only text on the ereader, but I want it to be epaper device.

Only one country that I'm aware of has Kindle library ebook borrowing
-not really a library visitor, so it doesn't matter to me.

are you happy to read with someone else's ideas of fonts...
-if there's a reader that has everything else I want, but lacks this customization it's fine, but generally I'd prefer to have the option to customize

do you want a device that can sync up reading and audiobook listening with the same book
-not something I'm necessary interested, but if everything else fits my requirements and I like the looks of the reader I don't mind having the option.

are you expecting to end up with a large collection of books that you want to easily manage into shelves (collections)
-that sounds like something I'd want to do.

you mention colour, but also eink. If you want a decent coloured screen...
-I remember reading an article about epaper that supports colour, that's why I mentioned colours but I'm definitely looking for epaper device, not a tablett .

about brands
-I don't have any preferance towards Nook, was just asking why people only mention kindle&kobo and gave it as an example

Is there any reason not to go with something like PocketbookSense (PB630) over Voyage?

Dictionaries
-are Kindles the only ones that have good dictinary? It's somewhat important to me as I'm not native speaker, but read mostly in English.

11-26-2016, 02:12 PM	#1
w33 Member Posts: 10 Karma: 1452 Join Date: Nov 2016 Device: None	1st time purchase, no clue what to look for. I'm looking to purchase ereader for the first time but honestly got no idea what features they got and what should I be looking to dodge. Can someone recommend buyer's guide or something of the sort. I'd also welcome recommendations: Looking for something that's rather new, runs smoothly and has good build. Would prefer if the device has minimal amounts of plastic and logos around the screen. Waterproof is bonus and would like to be able to open as many formats as possible. I also noted that some devices show ads while you read (??) and that doesn't sound like good times to me. About screen size 6" is what I'm looking for unless there are some new models that are 5". The more space the better. I'm not sure if there's coloured eink, but if there is that's something I'd be interested unless it's stupidly expensive. I don't really care about connectivity as long as it has mini usb port. Can't think about much else right now. Last edited by w33; 11-26-2016 at 03:27 PM.

11-26-2016, 03:04 PM	#3
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Did you really mean to say that you wanted a 6' (six feet) screen? The most common screen size is 6" (six inches). The ability to read a choice of formats is really not necessary. There are only two common ebook formats: Kindle format (used by Amazon) and ePub (pretty much everyone else). It's very easy to convert books between these two formats. The biggest players in the business are Amazon (far and away the largest) and Kobo (a distant second). Every other manufacturer is small fry by comparison. Kobo give you more formatting options; Amazon have more stable firmware, a better bookstore, and hugely better customer service. Last edited by HarryT; 11-26-2016 at 03:18 PM.

11-26-2016, 09:35 PM	#14
meeera Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,814 Karma: 68407974 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles	The reason there is a bezel around the screen is that unlike a monitor, you need to hold the device. Having the screen go edge-to-edge (or nearly so) would mean you would be restricted to a palm hold, like a phone, which for most people is not comfortable for any length of time for a reader larger than five inches. The next important question is: what do you read? A reader who reads mostly novels has very different needs from someone who is reading graphic novels and complex scientific papers. Next: what country do you live in? Only one country that I'm aware of has Kindle library ebook borrowing. In all the rest, you need to look elsewhere if you're a library user. Your country will also influence what devices are readily available to buy. Next: are you happy to read with someone else's ideas of fonts, and a limited choice of font sizes, line spacing, and margins? Or are you keen to customise quite finely to your own preferences? Next: do you want a device that can sync up reading and audiobook listening with the same book, so that you can move from one to the other? Or is that a non-starter? Next: are you expecting to end up with a large collection of books that you want to easily manage into shelves (collections), or are you a person who would just put a handful of books on your device and not be bothered about organising them? Next: you mention colour, but also eink. If you want a decent coloured screen, you're looking at a tablet, not an eink reader. The tradeoffs there are shorter battery life, difficulty reading in sunlight, and (for some, not all) more potential for eystrain. The main pluses are flexibility (a variety of ebook apps and other apps), faster smoother reading of PDFs, and colour. Last edited by meeera; 11-26-2016 at 09:40 PM.

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11-26-2016, 02:48 PM	#2
Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	No, they do not show ads while you read. The kindles can come with special offers which are on the sleep screen and the bottom of the home page but not in the books themselves. As far as the build goes they are pretty much identical. Where are you planning to get your books from? Are you planning to convert? Most places like project Gutenberg and Smashwords typically offer a choice of formats. So does the library here on Mobileread. Kobo is the only one that is waterproof at the moment. Do you want a lighted one or a non-lighted one? I have both a kindle and a Kobo. I prefer the Amazon store to Kobo.

11-26-2016, 03:27 PM	#4
w33 Member Posts: 10 Karma: 1452 Join Date: Nov 2016 Device: None	Where are you planning to get your books from? -Don't really have a preference, the bigger store the better ... I guess? Are you planning to convert? -Don't mind doing it, IF the converting doesn't cause problems or bugs to the book. Kobo is the only one that is waterproof at the moment. -Isn't the nook plus glowlight waterproof too, or do you not recommend nooks? Do you want a lighted one or a non-lighted one? -I'd like to have the option to have turn on light, saw several pics where some readers have slider for how strong it should be; is this a common feature? I have both a kindle and a Kobo. I prefer the Amazon store to Kobo. -Any reason for that? I don't have particular brand allegiances It's very easy to convert books between these two formats. -Does it always convert properly? ... -Is quality really similar? Also what about brands like Nook & Pocketbook, are they not recommended. And also, by better bookstore do you mean better selection or better prices? 6 foot joke -typo

11-26-2016, 04:15 PM	#5
JKenP Connoisseur Posts: 91 Karma: 504384 Join Date: May 2011 Location: NW Indiana Device: Sony Kobo iPhone Kindle 8 HD	Just how user controlled do you want it to be? DRM abounds but can be defeated. If you want to store the books on your computer, look at Calibre. It can install books on readers from your storage and do a number of other neat things to give you the most control. Kobo and Kindle are both excellent first experiences. The more you spend the more features you'll have. However, an entry level model makes a good starting point. The Kobo is more versatile because epub are the choice everywhere but Amazon. If you are happy being locked into Amazon, they are a good value.

11-26-2016, 05:15 PM	#7
Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	I bought a Kobo first, then got the kindle because I like the Amazon store better.

11-26-2016, 05:17 PM	#8
Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	Adding to what HarryT said. You can get an Amazon format from many places. You are not locked into any store.

11-26-2016, 05:18 PM	#9
church mouse Evangelist Posts: 485 Karma: 5277078 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Device: Kobo Clara HD, Boox Poke 2, PocketBook Verse Pro (634)	I have used both Kindles and Kobos. Both make good readers but, at the moment, unless you can find a Kobo Glo HD, Kobo have rather handed the 6" reader field over to Kindles for sharp, 300 dpi readers. I also feel that if you were unsure if you wanted to get in to sideloading to a computer and stripping drm, then the Amazon Kindle can't be beaten for a new starter. (As HarryT said, their customer support is superior to Kobo too) The Pocketbook Touch HD and the Tolino Vision 4 HD have the latest 300 dpi screens and some nice features but I am not sure I would recommend either as a first reader (unless you live in German speaking or central Europe). I happen to use a Tolino Vision 3 HD myself and have been very impressed with it, but I would not recommend it to a friend as a first e-reader unless I was certain that they wanted to mess with sideloading books. (Most of the e-reader people I know just want to buy and download direct to their reader, no matter what the benefits of Calibre and side loading can be). Downloading to a computer, stripping drm, converting formats rarely have a negative impact on a book and sometimes can allow one to fix/improve a poorly formatted book but none of these things are necessary to enjoy ereading. Sent from my YOGA Tablet 2-830F using Tapatalk

11-26-2016, 05:24 PM	#10
w33 Member Posts: 10 Karma: 1452 Join Date: Nov 2016 Device: None	OK so what features would I be looking at once I pick the brand? I'd appreciate it if you guys focus on me and not on brand wars Is there any other features except lighting up the screen I should know of? Is the converting between formats bug free? For example I won't get poorly formatted epub if I convert mobi and the other way around. Also can you recommend specific model with not too much plastic around the screen? All the readers I see have more of that than my monitor. And what about stuff like Nook Glow Plus, is it bad? Overpriced? Any reason you aren't recommending it?

11-26-2016, 06:34 PM	#13
barryem Wizard Posts: 2,459 Karma: 68781975 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Arkansas Device: Paperwhite 4	I don't quite agree about the Nook. I have a Nook Glowlight Plus, their newest ereader. They're still selling them. Except for a couple of big flaws they're really pretty nice. The big problem is the capacative home button which, if I touch it while reading, takes me back to the home page. I rarely get through a page without that happening. It's pretty irritating. The other problem with the Nook is that it's dictionary is grayed out and I can't read it. Also their customer service is rather poor. Other than those two problems it's every bit as good as a Kindle and Kobo. To me those are big problems so I don't use mine much. To a lot of people they're not bothered by those issues and they love the thing. The Nook Glowlight Plus is also waterproof. I'm not sure how important that is. It's not something I care about but it's there if you want it. My preferred ereader is a Kindle Voyage or a Paperwhite. I have both. I like the Voyage a bit more but it costs a lot more. Both are very solid and stable and everything works just the way you hope it will all the time. When you do have issues Amazon has great customer service. I also have a Kobo Aura, one of their older ereaders, and I like it a lot. It's screen isn't as good as the Kindle or the Nook's screen but the newer Kobos have screens as good as the others. The Aura is older technology. That said, it's a decent screen. The newer ones have excellent screens. The Kobo store isn't as good but it's okay. My two experiences with Kobo customer service have been pretty bad. They're nearly impossible to get in touch with. Once I did (it took nearly two weeks of trying every day) they were helpful. Considered simply as reading devices I think Kindle and Kobo are the better choices. Kindle is more stable. Everything just works. Kobo has more ability to control fonts, etc. and they work a lot of the time. They fail to work a lot too. I buy my books from Amazon and convert them and side-load them to the Kobo and I use whatever font features happen to work. But reading on it is always still a good experience. The features that sometimes fail on the Kobo don't exist on the other readers so not much is lost. There's a freeware program called Calibre that's excellent for converting between formats. It's trivial to use and extremely quick and very reliable. I can load it, drag a book into it and convert it to the other format and have it ready to go in less than a minute. It also does bulk conversions so doing a bunch at a time is about as easy. Books converted between formats are usually as good in either format. Sometimes a table of contents won't convert correctly because of a problem with the way it's formatted. Calibre also supplies tools to fix that. But 99.9% of the books convert with no problem at all. Calibre also lets you install your own fonts if you aren't happy with the fonts in the various readers. I use this occasionally for some special reason but I'm fine with the readers fonts as a rule. I suggest a Kindle or a Kobo. Make sure you get one with a light. Which model doesn't matter that much. They're all good. There aren't any to avoid. None of them have problems. Chances are whichever you choose will be fine and you'll feel like you made the right choice. Especially if it's a Kindle Voyage. I'm entitled to a little prejudice, I think. Barry

11-27-2016, 05:09 AM	#15
w33 Member Posts: 10 Karma: 1452 Join Date: Nov 2016 Device: None	DRM, etc. -I'm not sure how it works for books but I'd like to be able to store books I buy on my pc too, as well as be able to buy&download on my pc and then upload to the ereader. Are any of the brands limited in that sense? what do you read? -I can limit myself to reading only text on the ereader, but I want it to be epaper device. Only one country that I'm aware of has Kindle library ebook borrowing -not really a library visitor, so it doesn't matter to me. are you happy to read with someone else's ideas of fonts... -if there's a reader that has everything else I want, but lacks this customization it's fine, but generally I'd prefer to have the option to customize do you want a device that can sync up reading and audiobook listening with the same book -not something I'm necessary interested, but if everything else fits my requirements and I like the looks of the reader I don't mind having the option. are you expecting to end up with a large collection of books that you want to easily manage into shelves (collections) -that sounds like something I'd want to do. you mention colour, but also eink. If you want a decent coloured screen... -I remember reading an article about epaper that supports colour, that's why I mentioned colours but I'm definitely looking for epaper device, not a tablett . about brands -I don't have any preferance towards Nook, was just asking why people only mention kindle&kobo and gave it as an example Is there any reason not to go with something like PocketbookSense (PB630) over Voyage? Dictionaries -are Kindles the only ones that have good dictinary? It's somewhat important to me as I'm not native speaker, but read mostly in English.

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