[iOS] Number 0 in a series

TxHawkeye · 11-30-2016, 10:46 AM

Hi, new to Calibre Companion (for IOS), and I'm very pleased with its functionality.

There is one thing I've noticed, though, that I'd like to point out.

I have a few series in Calibre that have book as '0' in the series. CC does not show the '[0]' for those books when displaying series information.

For example, I have 'New Spring' (Robert Jordan) as '0' in the 'Wheel of Time' series. All other books in the series are shown as 'Wheel of Time [n]'. However 'New Spring' is shown simply as 'Wheel of Time'.

The same is true for the 'Series:' line in the details for 'New Spring'.

Would be nice if CC showed 'Series Name [0]' rather than 'Series Name' when the number is '0'.

Steve_Haley · 12-01-2016, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TxHawkeye

Hi, new to Calibre Companion (for IOS), and I'm very pleased with its functionality.
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Would be nice if CC showed 'Series Name [0]' rather than 'Series Name' when the number is '0'.

Hi, I'm glad you like it. For that series bug: ha, that's really funny. I guess I never imagined series having a book 0, and so 0 is often used as a placeholder when we have no value. For that reason, I made it not show the series 'book number' if it was zero.

I have a couple ideas about how to fix this, but it will be a while before I can work on this; CC is a side project for me.

TxHawkeye · 12-01-2016, 11:08 PM

I agree that book '0' in a series is strange ... sometimes an author will write a prequel after starting/finishing the series ... there may be other cases.

Thank you for your quick response. I fully understand side projects and their priorities vs 'real' priorities - this would be a nice to have feature and is not urgent by any means. Thank you for giving it your consideration.

BenG · 12-02-2016, 02:57 PM

Sometimes I'll use "0" to indicate a book related to the series but not part of the series proper. Something like The Science of Discworld or The World of Ice and Fire.

theducks · 12-03-2016, 03:28 AM

I also use 0 for things that belong to the series but have no 'place' in the sequence. Glossary, guide to the series universe are just a few.
Then there are standalone stories in that universe

JSWolf · 12-03-2016, 05:18 AM

0 is incorrect. In the case of say New Spring, it would be 0.5.

Steve_Haley · 12-03-2016, 11:51 AM

Hehe, lots of people use book 0 it seems. It does make sense, thinking about it some more. Until I have a chance to implement a fix, a workaround for now would be to change any "Book 0"s into "Book zero-point-something". It will display the series number, with two decimal points for non-whole numbers, for any value greater than 0.

Thinking of which... does anyone use negative series numbers? Those currently wouldn't display either.

JSWolf · 12-03-2016, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve_Haley

Hehe, lots of people use book 0 it seems. It does make sense, thinking about it some more. Until I have a chance to implement a fix, a workaround for now would be to change any "Book 0"s into "Book zero-point-something". It will display the series number, with two decimal points for non-whole numbers, for any value greater than 0.

Thinking of which... does anyone use negative series numbers? Those currently wouldn't display either.

Book 0 is incorrect. It's either a decimal number if it's a novella or short story and a positive whole number if it's a novel or short story collection. There is no 0 and there are no negative numbers.

If an author writes a book that's a prequel and you want to put the series in chronological order, the number may just have to be changed to fit it in. Using 0 is wrong because you cannot have a book 0 because a book 0 would be no book at all.

BenG · 12-03-2016, 04:07 PM

It's your library. Book zero can be anything you want it to be.

JSWolf · 12-03-2016, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BenG

It's your library. Book zero can be anything you want it to be.

Have you ever seen any book series list online that shows a book 0?

Terisa de morgan · 12-03-2016, 04:54 PM

Yes, look at goodreads. Anyway, book list online are not my main criterios.

Enviado desde mi YD206 mediante Tapatalk

JSWolf · 12-03-2016, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Terisa de morgan

Yes, look at goodreads. Anyway, book list online are not my main criterios.

Enviado desde mi YD206 mediante Tapatalk

Can you link me to some popular book series that start with book 0 on GR please? Thanks.

Terisa de morgan · 12-03-2016, 07:35 PM

Not at this moment, sorry.

BenG · 12-03-2016, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Have you ever seen any book series list online that shows a book 0?

Irrelevant to my library.

DoctorOhh · 12-03-2016, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Have you ever seen any book series list online that shows a book 0?

TheDucks in his previous comment gave perfectly valid examples of why he chooses to use 0 to associate certain books to a series. It is not "incorrect" to do so. I do the same as you and just use 0.1, 0.2 etc... but to say it is incorrect is simply your opinion, not an undisputed fact.

11-30-2016, 10:46 AM	#1
TxHawkeye Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 198 Join Date: Nov 2016 Device: Kindle Voyage	[iOS] Number 0 in a series Hi, new to Calibre Companion (for IOS), and I'm very pleased with its functionality. There is one thing I've noticed, though, that I'd like to point out. I have a few series in Calibre that have book as '0' in the series. CC does not show the '[0]' for those books when displaying series information. For example, I have 'New Spring' (Robert Jordan) as '0' in the 'Wheel of Time' series. All other books in the series are shown as 'Wheel of Time [n]'. However 'New Spring' is shown simply as 'Wheel of Time'. The same is true for the 'Series:' line in the details for 'New Spring'. Would be nice if CC showed 'Series Name [0]' rather than 'Series Name' when the number is '0'.

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12-01-2016, 11:08 PM	#3
TxHawkeye Junior Member Posts: 8 Karma: 198 Join Date: Nov 2016 Device: Kindle Voyage	I agree that book '0' in a series is strange ... sometimes an author will write a prequel after starting/finishing the series ... there may be other cases. Thank you for your quick response. I fully understand side projects and their priorities vs 'real' priorities - this would be a nice to have feature and is not urgent by any means. Thank you for giving it your consideration.

12-02-2016, 02:57 PM	#4
BenG Home Guard Posts: 4,730 Karma: 86721650 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alpha Ralpha Boulevard Device: Kindle Oasis 3G, iPhone 6	Sometimes I'll use "0" to indicate a book related to the series but not part of the series proper. Something like The Science of Discworld or The World of Ice and Fire.

12-03-2016, 03:28 AM	#5
theducks Well trained by Cats Posts: 31,270 Karma: 61916422 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Central Coast of California Device: Kobo Libra2,Kobo Aura2v1, K4NT(Fixed: New Bat.), Galaxy Tab A	I also use 0 for things that belong to the series but have no 'place' in the sequence. Glossary, guide to the series universe are just a few. Then there are standalone stories in that universe

12-03-2016, 05:18 AM	#6
JSWolf Resident Curmudgeon Posts: 80,803 Karma: 150249619 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Roslindale, Massachusetts Device: Kobo Libra 2, Kobo Aura H2O, PRS-650, PRS-T1, nook STR, PW3	0 is incorrect. In the case of say New Spring, it would be 0.5.

12-03-2016, 11:51 AM	#7
Steve_Haley CC iOS Developer Posts: 142 Karma: 53024 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: England Device: Variety phones/tablets	Hehe, lots of people use book 0 it seems. It does make sense, thinking about it some more. Until I have a chance to implement a fix, a workaround for now would be to change any "Book 0"s into "Book zero-point-something". It will display the series number, with two decimal points for non-whole numbers, for any value greater than 0. Thinking of which... does anyone use negative series numbers? Those currently wouldn't display either.

12-03-2016, 04:07 PM	#9
BenG Home Guard Posts: 4,730 Karma: 86721650 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alpha Ralpha Boulevard Device: Kindle Oasis 3G, iPhone 6	It's your library. Book zero can be anything you want it to be.

12-03-2016, 04:54 PM	#11
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,687 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	Yes, look at goodreads. Anyway, book list online are not my main criterios. Enviado desde mi YD206 mediante Tapatalk

12-03-2016, 07:35 PM	#13
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,687 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	Not at this moment, sorry.

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