Kindle Cloud Docs

DougFNJ · 05-02-2016, 02:35 PM

Hello all,

I am looking for the best way to manage some content I have, any help would be greatly appreciated.

I recently bought a Kindle Voyage. I also have an iPad and iPhone that I load the Kindle app on. I converted all of my books I had in iBooks from ePub to .Mobi. I loaded them all directly onto my Voyage using Calibre, but I also read on my iDevices. The pain is the setup I have now has me needing to look for my place if I close my spot on one device, and look to read it on another.

When I originally tried first attempting to load them through the cloud, my books showed up in 2 different spots on my Kindle. Some were "Amazon Books" the ones I purchased through Amazon, then the ones I loaded on which showed as documents. I couldn't display all books in one section.

If I used the send to Kindle and move all of these converted books to the cloud, and then push them to my 3 devices, am I able to download them directly on to the devices, can I get them to display in just 1 section on each device, and would they all keep in synch?

I am also assuming if it works like I am hoping it could, that I should delete the content currently on my Voyage?

Thank you for any help.

eschwartz · 05-02-2016, 03:00 PM

Yes, if you email them to your Send-to-Kindle email address, they can be directly downloaded on ANY registered Kindle device or app. And the notes/highlights/bookmarks/last read page will sync just like with purchased books.

However, the price you will pay is that they will show up as Personal Documents, which on some Kindles will be segregated in the Documnts section instead of in the Books section.

HarryT · 05-03-2016, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by eschwartz

However, the price you will pay is that they will show up as Personal Documents, which on some Kindles will be segregated in the Documnts section instead of in the Books section.

I don't know about the Fire range, but on all (AFAIK, at least!) eInk Kindles, if you set the library selector to "All Items" you'll see both books and personal documents with no segregation between them.

eschwartz · 05-03-2016, 07:42 AM

It is indeed the tablet software that poses the issue, from what I remember.

HarryT · 05-03-2016, 08:04 AM

The iOS app behaves like eInk Kindles: selecting "All Items" shows you everything.

shalym · 05-03-2016, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

The iOS app behaves like eInk Kindles: selecting "All Items" shows you everything.

The Android app behaves the same way as the iOS app on my phone, but when I look on my Fire, there is no "All Items" choice in library view. (or at least I can't find one) If I look at my collections on my Fire, however, I do see both books and "docs". Hopefully someday they'll fix it so that we can see "All Items" in library view as well as in collections view.

Shari

HarryT · 05-03-2016, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by shalym

The Android app behaves the same way as the iOS app on my phone, but when I look on my Fire, there is no "All Items" choice in library view. (or at least I can't find one) If I look at my collections on my Fire, however, I do see both books and "docs". Hopefully someday they'll fix it so that we can see "All Items" in library view as well as in collections view.

Shari

Thanks, Shari. It seems strange that the Fire app is the "poor relation" of the Kindle App family. One might reasonably have expected it would be Amazon's flagship app!

NullNix · 05-03-2016, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Thanks, Shari. It seems strange that the Fire app is the "poor relation" of the Kindle App family. One might reasonably have expected it would be Amazon's flagship app!

Certainly it's not the poor relation in other ways: the iOS apps are. (They still can't render any CSS at all, for example: it appears that the various mobi and azw3 renderers have not been touched since the days of the Kindle 3...)

HarryT · 05-03-2016, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NullNix

Certainly it's not the poor relation in other ways: the iOS apps are. (They still can't render any CSS at all, for example: it appears that the various mobi and azw3 renderers have not been touched since the days of the Kindle 3...)

You can't sideload KF8 content to the iOS app, but if you load books in "dual Mobi" format to Amazon's cloud, you will get the KF8 version downloaded to the app (and of course you also get it if you buy books from Amazon).

Cinisajoy · 05-03-2016, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

Thanks, Shari. It seems strange that the Fire app is the "poor relation" of the Kindle App family. One might reasonably have expected it would be Amazon's flagship app!

On the fires: you get your choice of books, docs, apps, music, video, web.
There is no all.
And on the older fires, the memory is divided into so much for apps and the rest for everything else. Not sure about the newer ones.

NullNix · 05-03-2016, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

You can't sideload KF8 content to the iOS app, but if you load books in "dual Mobi" format to Amazon's cloud, you will get the KF8 version downloaded to the app (and of course you also get it if you buy books from Amazon).

Ah. That probably explains the presentation differences I was observing in the ebook I was helping prep for sale. Oh good, it might not be buggered up after all. (Weird: it just ignores the KF8 pat if a dual-mobi file from kindlegen is sideloaded, or someting?)

Barbara1955 · 05-03-2016, 02:38 PM

I lost a many ebook in my PW3 Seems you side load they Vanish. All Items is Useless.

HarryT · 05-03-2016, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Katie1

I lost a many ebook in my PW3 Seems you side load they Vanish. All Items is Useless.

You're doing something wrong. All the content on my Voyage (which is essentially the same device as a PW3 in software terms) is sideloaded and it all works absolutely fine.

The most common reason for books not to appear is indexing issues.

HarryT · 05-03-2016, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NullNix

Ah. That probably explains the presentation differences I was observing in the ebook I was helping prep for sale. Oh good, it might not be buggered up after all. (Weird: it just ignores the KF8 pat if a dual-mobi file from kindlegen is sideloaded, or someting?)

The Kindle Previewer tool can create a format called ".azk" which can be sideloaded to the iOS apps and which supports KF8 features. It's specifically for the purpose you describe: testing books during development.

Barbara1955 · 05-03-2016, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryT

You're doing something wrong. All the content on my Voyage (which is essentially the same device as a PW3 in software terms) is sideloaded and it all works absolutely fine.

The most common reason for books not to appear is indexing issues.

Nope Indexing fine ... Side Loaded 1400 ebooks 50 of them Vanished.

05-02-2016, 02:35 PM	#1
DougFNJ Avid Reader Posts: 273 Karma: 1332 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New Jersey Device: Kindle Paperwhite Signature, 2TB iPad Pro 11”	Kindle Cloud Docs Hello all, I am looking for the best way to manage some content I have, any help would be greatly appreciated. I recently bought a Kindle Voyage. I also have an iPad and iPhone that I load the Kindle app on. I converted all of my books I had in iBooks from ePub to .Mobi. I loaded them all directly onto my Voyage using Calibre, but I also read on my iDevices. The pain is the setup I have now has me needing to look for my place if I close my spot on one device, and look to read it on another. When I originally tried first attempting to load them through the cloud, my books showed up in 2 different spots on my Kindle. Some were "Amazon Books" the ones I purchased through Amazon, then the ones I loaded on which showed as documents. I couldn't display all books in one section. If I used the send to Kindle and move all of these converted books to the cloud, and then push them to my 3 devices, am I able to download them directly on to the devices, can I get them to display in just 1 section on each device, and would they all keep in synch? I am also assuming if it works like I am hoping it could, that I should delete the content currently on my Voyage? Thank you for any help.

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05-02-2016, 03:00 PM	#2
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Yes, if you email them to your Send-to-Kindle email address, they can be directly downloaded on ANY registered Kindle device or app. And the notes/highlights/bookmarks/last read page will sync just like with purchased books. However, the price you will pay is that they will show up as Personal Documents, which on some Kindles will be segregated in the Documnts section instead of in the Books section.

05-03-2016, 07:42 AM	#4
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	It is indeed the tablet software that poses the issue, from what I remember.

05-03-2016, 08:04 AM	#5
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	The iOS app behaves like eInk Kindles: selecting "All Items" shows you everything.

05-03-2016, 02:38 PM	#12
Barbara1955 Non-Techy Posts: 4,455 Karma: 15499273 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: WV---USA Device: Samsung Cell Phone & Amazon Fires & Kobo eReaders	I lost a many ebook in my PW3 Seems you side load they Vanish. All Items is Useless.

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