Mark as read on KV

[FBum]

I have an unregistered KV so don't have cloud access or collections.

I want to be able to mark a book as read on my Kindle Voyage. I'd love to be able to put read books in a separate collection but that doesn't seem to be possible without registering. I have Calibre but don't see a way to do it there either.

I don't find the reading progress dots useful because they get reset at times, and are hard to read at a glance.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

p.s. It really annoys me when a product is intentionally crippled like the KV is with collections. If there's no way for me to manage eBooks without registering it I'll just find another ereader that's more user-friendly and sell the KV.

[drgonzalez94]

Originally Posted by FBum

I have an unregistered KV so don't have cloud access or collections.

I want to be able to mark a book as read on my Kindle Voyage. I'd love to be able to put read books in a separate collection but that doesn't seem to be possible without registering. I have Calibre but don't see a way to do it there either.

I don't find the reading progress dots useful because they get reset at times, and are hard to read at a glance.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

p.s. It really annoys me when a product is intentionally crippled like the KV is with collections. If there's no way for me to manage eBooks without registering it I'll just find another ereader that's more user-friendly and sell the KV.

Unfortunately no. There is no way that I'm aware of to create collections on a deregistered kindle. You can manage collection with Calibre and a jailbroken firmware, but if you're going that far, you might as well register the darn thing.

I was going to leave it at that but for the sake of my sanity I have to ask...because honestly, I'm having a little trouble here. You have intentionally crippled an Amazon device by not registering it with Amazon.com and then you pin any limitations that Amazon has placed on an Amazon device as a fault of the Amazon ereader, when all of the advanced functions are, in fact, available if you would just register this Amazon device on Amazon.com.

Has the device been blacklisted? Is that why you can't register it?

Regards,

Dan

[eschwartz]

Some people don't want to register with Amazon on principle.

I am going to resist the temptation to comment about peoples' preoccupation with privacy (suffice it to say I am happy registering ) but I will note I am jailbroken and use the collections manager despite being registered -- it's much nicer.

And there are hacks to fake a registration. Search the Developers Corner forum for details.



As for crippled devices, I don't believe the Kobo is usable at all without registering. Although there are hacks posted to write a fake registration to the database.
(The Nook is simply unusable. )

[Josieb1]

Without registration there are two options IMO

1) Mark the book as read in Calibre. I already do that as I use tags as collections so I have for example a Historical and a Historical Read tag.

2) Sell the Voyage and buy another device. I have two Kobos, the H20 and the GLO HD. The GLO HD is the closest to the Voyage. You really only lose adaptive lighting and the page press sensors, plus a better dictionary (if that's important) but you can collections which is of far more value.

I buy DRM free books outside of Amazon so for me it's not really an issue but the Voyage, like any Kindle is really compromised without registration so if that's something the OP is doing voluntarily then I'd certainly question the ownership of a Kindle.

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

As for crippled devices, I don't believe the Kobo is usable at all without registering. Although there are hacks posted to write a fake registration to the database.
(The Nook is simply unusable. )

The Kobos need an email address for set up but it can be a fake one, just made up. You just can't buy books without adding payment info, but you can skip that section during set up.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

The Kobos need an email address for set up but it can be a fake one, just made up. You just can't buy books without adding payment info, but you can skip that section during set up.

And what is your point, exactly?
You can use a fake email (or rather, a throwaway email) to create an Amazon account, too. No need to setup payments on a Kindle, either.


The difference is that Kobo requires you to make a fake account (or manipulate the SQL of the database) in order to get past the turning-it-on stage.
Kindles do not, but require it for "advanced" features like collections.

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

And what is your point, exactly?
You can use a fake email (or rather, a throwaway email) to create an Amazon account, too. No need to setup payments on a Kindle, either.

I was trying to be helpful, that is all. Lately it seems what ever I post on any thread is derided.

I had no idea Amazon allows registration using a fake email address but that is useful to know so thank you for that information.

[aceflor]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I as trying to be helpful, that is all. Lately it seems what ever I post on any thread is derided.

I had no idea Amazon allows registration using a fake email address but that is useful to know so thank you for that information.

Josie, you were helpful indeed, so thank you for that. Please keep posting.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I was trying to be helpful, that is all. Lately it seems what ever I post on any thread is derided.

I had no idea Amazon allows registration using a fake email address but that is useful to know so thank you for that information.

Email addresses are fundamentally fake. What is it that proves your "real" mail address is real?
I can't think of anything on the internet that doesn't allow "fake email addresses", though some of them will restrict using email addresses from the plethora of "10 minute email" addresses.


It is a valid point that Kobo doesn't require you to set up verified payment info just to login to a Kobo device. (Although it shouldn't be terribly surprising to learn that Amazon doesn't require it either.)

[drgonzalez94]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I was trying to be helpful, that is all. Lately it seems what ever I post on any thread is derided.

I had no idea Amazon allows registration using a fake email address but that is useful to know so thank you for that information.

Not at all Josie. I find your posts quite helpful, actually. Perhaps I'm biased because you turned me on to the eBay Swees cases, though. You've also just earned a few brownie points for using the word derided .

Regarding registering, it simply does not make sense to me to purchase an Amazon-branded device from Amazon.com and then refuse to register it because one has a list of grievances against Amazon.com. Why support them pecuniarily and then denounce the device because one refuses to follow through with what is in essence the final step of the purchase on "principle"?

Honestly....I cannot wrap my head around that. Perhaps I'm simply an idiot .

P.S. Use a fake e-mail address (fake name, fake username - random password) to create a throw-away Amazon account if, for reasons beyond my comprehension, you simply refuse to bring yourself to register your device. I've never tried, but I'm certain that Amazon has blocked temporary email services like YOPmail and Mailinator.

Now...something tells me that this really is not the case at all, because that ^^^^^ is a way to circumvent the registering process. Once again, the device most likely has been blacklisted....especially if purchased on eBay or Craigslist. I've had to deal with that a couple of times myself.

[Josieb1]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Email addresses are fundamentally fake. What is it that proves your "real" mail address is real?
I can't think of anything on the internet that doesn't allow "fake email addresses", though some of them will restrict using email addresses from the plethora of "10 minute email" addresses.


It is a valid point that Kobo doesn't require you to set up verified payment info just to login to a Kobo device. (Although it shouldn't be terribly surprising to learn that Amazon doesn't require it either.)

I don't know about Amazon but what I meant by 'fake' email addresses for Kobo is that there is no validation at all. No confirmation email to click to confirm you really have that address, the 'email' address can actually not exist, you can make it up as you go along.

I think on one of my faulty devices when after removing my registration I had to set it up again to show the seller the fault so I used loulou@gmail.com, it was the first thing I thought of when faced with the registration screen.

[aceflor]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

I don't know about Amazon but what I meant by 'fake' email addresses for Kobo is that there is no validation at all. No confirmation email to click to confirm you really have that address, the 'email' address can actually not exist, you can make it up as you go along.

I think on one of my faulty devices when after removing my registration I had to set it up again to show the seller the fault so I used loulou@gmail.com, it was the first thing I thought of when faced with the registration screen.

[cvkemp]

I keep a email address that my close friends, and family know about, I also have an email address for official business emails. Then I have my spam email address that is used when I need to go to a website for information and I can not get it any other way than by giving them my email address. That spam email address is disabled and removed every month.
I love my voyage and I do register it and I do get most of my ebooks from amazon. But I will say that search and read a lot of the free ebooks.

[FBum]

Thanks everyone for taking the time to share your thoughts, the discussion has been helpful and interesting. I'm going to do some more research before deciding what to do next.

Thanks again.

F.

[rashkae]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Email addresses are fundamentally fake. What is it that proves your "real" mail address is real?
I can't think of anything on the internet that doesn't allow "fake email addresses", though some of them will restrict using email addresses from the plethora of "10 minute email" addresses.

Err, just about any registration system worth anything will require a reply token before it accepts an e-mail. Therefore all e-mail addresses used must be real, at least for few minutes.

But none of that applies to either Kobo or Amazon, they both will gladly accept whatever you put in and carry on. (I'm particularly fond of something_very_rude@amazon.com or kobo.com, respectively.)