Help a noob?

Calenorn · 09-22-2015, 01:33 PM

Hello Folks,

That $50 tablet + $67 Prime membership has me sorely tempted. Perhaps some Amazon vet here will help me with a few questions.

First, does owning a Fire tablet allow an Amazon Prime customer to use the "Kindle Owners' Lending Library"? Or is that only for the e-ink Kindles?

And second, are Kindle books marked for "Kindle Unlimited" also part of that "Kindle Owners' Lending Library"? (I realize that the Lending Library through Prime allows only one book per month.) If not, how can I tell (on Amazon's web page) whether a book would be available through the Lending Library or not?

dordale · 09-22-2015, 02:07 PM

I'm pretty sure that you can access the Kindle Owner's Lending Library on the Fire tablets--but make sure and confirm that with someone who owns a fire!

Regarding the Kindle Owner's Library / Unlimited--many of the books in the Unlimited program are available in the KOL, but not all. On Amazon's website, it will show whether books are part of KU, and if they are also a part of KOL, it will also show "Prime-borrow for free". (At least in the US.)

Calenorn · 09-22-2015, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dordale

I'm pretty sure that you can access the Kindle Owner's Lending Library on the Fire tablets--but make sure and confirm that with someone who owns a fire!

Regarding the Kindle Owner's Library / Unlimited--many of the books in the Unlimited program are available in the KOL, but not all. On Amazon's website, it will show whether books are part of KU, and if they are also a part of KOL, it will also show "Prime-borrow for free". (At least in the US.)

Thanks, DD! I found a couple books that have that note. But it isn't visible from a search page, and I don't see any way to filter a search for "prime-borrow for free". Hmmm.

Calenorn · 09-22-2015, 02:42 PM

Okay, I'm catching up. Fire tablets are definitely included. Search results on the web site have "Borrow for free from your Kindle device. Join Amazon Prime" noted on the right side of the listing.

Still need a way to filter search results to include only those Prime-eligible loaners. Hmmm.

KimberlyFDR · 09-22-2015, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Calenorn

Still need a way to filter search results to include only those Prime-eligible loaners. Hmmm.

On the left side, there should be a checkbox for Kindle Unlimited Eligible. That's how I do my borrow once a month - search a keyword, select the box, then find anything new that I might want to read.

Calenorn · 09-22-2015, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KimberlyFDR

On the left side, there should be a checkbox for Kindle Unlimited Eligible. That's how I do my borrow once a month - search a keyword, select the box, then find anything new that I might want to read.

That does help to narrow it down. But there seems to be a lot of Unlimited books that are not available for lending to Prime customers.

Stir in audiobooks, new and used paper books, and the Amazon web page has become sort of a jungle!

susan_cassidy · 09-22-2015, 03:15 PM

If you are only getting Prime for the KOLL, save your money. It would be cheaper to just buy the books. Most KOLL books are $4.99 or less, so it doesn't make sense to get Prime only for that. If you want the streaming movies, too, then that's different.

Cinisajoy · 09-22-2015, 03:17 PM

Hi and welcome. Once you get used to the jungle it isn't so bad.
Don't forget free two day shipping + instant videos that you can watch on your computer, tablet or smart Tv.
Free streaming music too.
Not to mention Amazon has a ton or two of free books too.
To own not borrow.

Did I mention on some physical items they are the cheapest place or only place around?

Calenorn · 09-22-2015, 03:28 PM

You're both correct, of course. My better half is going for the Prime for the teeeveee and the moooveees. I might as well grab a free read once a month, especially since our local public library system is very poor at ebooks.

Cinisajoy · 09-22-2015, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Calenorn

You're both correct, of course. My better half is going for the Prime for the teeeveee and the moooveees. I might as well grab a free read once a month, especially since our local public library system is very poor at ebooks.

If you have a nice HD TV and can hook up an HDMI cord between the tv and the computer, have your better half stream "Terror in a tiny town."
It was a trip trying to watch it.

dordale · 09-22-2015, 06:05 PM

Calenorn--

For searching for books available in the Kindle Lending Library, try the following:

Do a search under books (not Kindle books specifically) for the type of books you're looking for. Then--click on "Prime" under the "Show Results For" option on the left side of the screen. Lastly, choose "Kindle Edition". As far as I can tell, this limits the books shown to only the Kindle editions that are Prime lending eligible.

Calenorn · 09-22-2015, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dordale

Calenorn--

For searching for books available in the Kindle Lending Library, try the following:

Do a search under books (not Kindle books specifically) for the type of books you're looking for. Then--click on "Prime" under the "Show Results For" option on the left side of the screen. Lastly, choose "Kindle Edition". As far as I can tell, this limits the books shown to only the Kindle editions that are Prime lending eligible.

Thanks, DD! Apparently the magic search term is "Prime Eligible."

Here's a link:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_il_to...&tag=eflyus-20

badgoodDeb · 09-23-2015, 11:42 AM

AND as far as other free books .... well, I see you've been a member here at MobileRead for a while. Follow the threads which discuss "Free/Bargain" books in the styles that you like, and you'll soon have more free books than you can read in 3 lifetimes. Some won't be worth while, and you'll throw them out after a chapter or two. But there are some that are quite good, and will get you hooked on a new author. (They you'll find you want to buy more books by that author; that's okay if it's a great author!)

By "follow" the threads, I mean "subscribe" via email, and once a day find out what books are new and free. I've got so many free books that I'm swimming in them!

Plus, of course, the Amazon Prime ones, which are indeed rather hard to find. You can also find them (somewhat more easily, but that's debatable) FROM the kindle. But then it's hard to wade through and get the right topic type. It's so hard to find them, that it's a good thing one can only get one a month. I can't FIND them faster than that (or else I'm not willing to search).

Calenorn · 09-23-2015, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by badgoodDeb

AND as far as other free books .... well, I see you've been a member here at MobileRead for a while. Follow the threads which discuss "Free/Bargain" books in the styles that you like, and you'll soon have more free books than you can read in 3 lifetimes. Some won't be worth while, and you'll throw them out after a chapter or two. But there are some that are quite good, and will get you hooked on a new author. (They you'll find you want to buy more books by that author; that's okay if it's a great author!)

By "follow" the threads, I mean "subscribe" via email, and once a day find out what books are new and free. I've got so many free books that I'm swimming in them!

Plus, of course, the Amazon Prime ones, which are indeed rather hard to find. You can also find them (somewhat more easily, but that's debatable) FROM the kindle. But then it's hard to wade through and get the right topic type. It's so hard to find them, that it's a good thing one can only get one a month. I can't FIND them faster than that (or else I'm not willing to search).

Hi Deb! Yes, virtual mountains of free books. In my case, lovingly tweaked and polished epubs, so the eink Kindles never really tempted me. However, a Fire tablet could be set up with a reading ap that would use epubs, right?

Some of the most beautifully formatted free ebooks I've ever found live right here on mobileread. There are some awesome book-crafters among us!

AnemicOak · 09-23-2015, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Calenorn

In my case, lovingly tweaked and polished epubs, so the eink Kindles never really tempted me. However, a Fire tablet could be set up with a reading ap that would use epubs, right?

Yes, you can sideload an ePub reader such as Moon+, FB Reader, etc.

09-22-2015, 01:33 PM	#1
Calenorn Brash Fumbler Posts: 1,203 Karma: 9224939 Join Date: May 2013 Device: NST, Kobo Mini	Help a noob? Hello Folks, That $50 tablet + $67 Prime membership has me sorely tempted. Perhaps some Amazon vet here will help me with a few questions. First, does owning a Fire tablet allow an Amazon Prime customer to use the "Kindle Owners' Lending Library"? Or is that only for the e-ink Kindles? And second, are Kindle books marked for "Kindle Unlimited" also part of that "Kindle Owners' Lending Library"? (I realize that the Lending Library through Prime allows only one book per month.) If not, how can I tell (on Amazon's web page) whether a book would be available through the Lending Library or not?

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dordale Wizard Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma	I'm pretty sure that you can access the Kindle Owner's Lending Library on the Fire tablets--but make sure and confirm that with someone who owns a fire! Regarding the Kindle Owner's Library / Unlimited--many of the books in the Unlimited program are available in the KOL, but not all. On Amazon's website, it will show whether books are part of KU, and if they are also a part of KOL, it will also show "Prime-borrow for free". (At least in the US.)

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Calenorn Brash Fumbler Posts: 1,203 Karma: 9224939 Join Date: May 2013 Device: NST, Kobo Mini	Okay, I'm catching up. Fire tablets are definitely included. Search results on the web site have "Borrow for free from your Kindle device. Join Amazon Prime" noted on the right side of the listing. Still need a way to filter search results to include only those Prime-eligible loaners. Hmmm.

09-22-2015, 03:15 PM	#7
susan_cassidy Wizard Posts: 2,251 Karma: 3720310 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: USA Device: Kindle, iPad (not used much for reading)	If you are only getting Prime for the KOLL, save your money. It would be cheaper to just buy the books. Most KOLL books are $4.99 or less, so it doesn't make sense to get Prime only for that. If you want the streaming movies, too, then that's different.

09-22-2015, 03:17 PM	#8
Cinisajoy Just a Yellow Smiley. Posts: 19,161 Karma: 83862859 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Texas Device: K4, K5, fire, kobo, galaxy	Hi and welcome. Once you get used to the jungle it isn't so bad. Don't forget free two day shipping + instant videos that you can watch on your computer, tablet or smart Tv. Free streaming music too. Not to mention Amazon has a ton or two of free books too. To own not borrow. Did I mention on some physical items they are the cheapest place or only place around?

09-22-2015, 03:28 PM	#9
Calenorn Brash Fumbler Posts: 1,203 Karma: 9224939 Join Date: May 2013 Device: NST, Kobo Mini	You're both correct, of course. My better half is going for the Prime for the teeeveee and the moooveees. I might as well grab a free read once a month, especially since our local public library system is very poor at ebooks.

09-22-2015, 06:05 PM	#11
dordale Wizard Posts: 1,731 Karma: 3472866 Join Date: Apr 2008 Device: Sony PRS-650 & 350; Kindle Voyage; Kobo Aura HD, Aura One, and Forma	Calenorn-- For searching for books available in the Kindle Lending Library, try the following: Do a search under books (not Kindle books specifically) for the type of books you're looking for. Then--click on "Prime" under the "Show Results For" option on the left side of the screen. Lastly, choose "Kindle Edition". As far as I can tell, this limits the books shown to only the Kindle editions that are Prime lending eligible.

09-23-2015, 11:42 AM	#13
badgoodDeb Grand Sorcerer Posts: 8,548 Karma: 64462893 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Harrisburg outskirts Device: Palms, K1-4s, iPads, iPhones, KV, KO1	AND as far as other free books .... well, I see you've been a member here at MobileRead for a while. Follow the threads which discuss "Free/Bargain" books in the styles that you like, and you'll soon have more free books than you can read in 3 lifetimes. Some won't be worth while, and you'll throw them out after a chapter or two. But there are some that are quite good, and will get you hooked on a new author. (They you'll find you want to buy more books by that author; that's okay if it's a great author!) By "follow" the threads, I mean "subscribe" via email, and once a day find out what books are new and free. I've got so many free books that I'm swimming in them! Plus, of course, the Amazon Prime ones, which are indeed rather hard to find. You can also find them (somewhat more easily, but that's debatable) FROM the kindle. But then it's hard to wade through and get the right topic type. It's so hard to find them, that it's a good thing one can only get one a month. I can't FIND them faster than that (or else I'm not willing to search).

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