Using Hunspell dictionaries

CalibUser · 11-29-2015, 03:46 PM

I am trying to use the Hunspell dictionary that comes with Sigil to detect hyphenated words that are not always hyphenated.

For example, good-bye, is normally hyphenated but failed-and is not normally hyphenated unless it appears in a phrase such as he failed-and failed dismally.

However, the Hunspell dictionary passes both of these examples as correct. Is there a way to enable the Huunspell dictionary to identify good-bye as normally hyphenated and failed-and as not normally hyphenated?

I need to be able to distinguish between these types of hyphenated words so that I can write code for my plugin at https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=264378 to change the short hyphen to a long hyphen where appropriate. For example, I want to change the short hyphen in:

he failed-and failed dismally to a long hyphen (mdash) in:

he failed–and failed dismally.

KevinH · 11-29-2015, 05:13 PM

AFAIK, no. There is no real way to separate "good-bye" and "failed-and" as being different in the eyes of the spell-checker. You could of course build a wordlist of commonly hyphenated words and check it to see if it makes this common list, but I really can't say that one of those is incorrectly spelled and therefore a mistake in spelling.

Sorry

eschwartz · 11-29-2015, 05:25 PM

"good-bye" is an actual word. "failed-and" is two words improperly hyphenated.

But spellcheckers don't really seem to consider that one word, for some reason. I guess they think all dashes are the same -- hyphens, en dashes, em dashes, what's the big deal?

So I'm not really sure what Sigil is supposed to do about that.
You'll see the same problem in calibre, or for that matter the Firefox/Chrome edit box.

BetterRed · 11-29-2015, 05:36 PM

@CalibUser - This is what I do - in Spellcheck; check the Show all words box at the bottom of the list, then enter a hyphen into the Filter box at the top of the list. Eyeball the list looking for anomalous entries. such as failed-and.

I also have a saved search to find non-breaking hyphens, which maybe useful in 'identifiers', such as telephone or part numbers etc, but, IMO at least, they're best avoided elsewhere.

BR

CalibUser · 11-30-2015, 02:58 PM

Thank you for all your replies.

Interesting that spellcheckers don't really seem to consider "failed-and" as a hyphenated word.

As I needed my plugin to replace short hyphens by long hyphens for these types of words, I will follow the suggestion made by KevinH and use the method used by BetterRed to compile a list of words that need to have the long-hyphen changed.

11-29-2015, 03:46 PM	#1
CalibUser Addict Posts: 203 Karma: 62362 Join Date: Jul 2015 Device: Sony	Using Hunspell dictionaries I am trying to use the Hunspell dictionary that comes with Sigil to detect hyphenated words that are not always hyphenated. For example, good-bye, is normally hyphenated but failed-and is not normally hyphenated unless it appears in a phrase such as he failed-and failed dismally. However, the Hunspell dictionary passes both of these examples as correct. Is there a way to enable the Huunspell dictionary to identify good-bye as normally hyphenated and failed-and as not normally hyphenated? I need to be able to distinguish between these types of hyphenated words so that I can write code for my plugin at https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=264378 to change the short hyphen to a long hyphen where appropriate. For example, I want to change the short hyphen in: he failed-and failed dismally to a long hyphen (mdash) in: he failed–and failed dismally.

11-29-2015, 05:25 PM	#3
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	"good-bye" is an actual word. "failed-and" is two words improperly hyphenated. But spellcheckers don't really seem to consider that one word, for some reason. I guess they think all dashes are the same -- hyphens, en dashes, em dashes, what's the big deal? So I'm not really sure what Sigil is supposed to do about that. You'll see the same problem in calibre, or for that matter the Firefox/Chrome edit box. Last edited by eschwartz; 11-29-2015 at 05:28 PM.

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11-29-2015, 05:13 PM	#2
KevinH Sigil Developer Posts: 9,138 Karma: 6565346 Join Date: Nov 2009 Device: many	AFAIK, no. There is no real way to separate "good-bye" and "failed-and" as being different in the eyes of the spell-checker. You could of course build a wordlist of commonly hyphenated words and check it to see if it makes this common list, but I really can't say that one of those is incorrectly spelled and therefore a mistake in spelling. Sorry

11-29-2015, 05:36 PM	#4
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 22,055 Karma: 30277960 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@CalibUser - This is what I do - in Spellcheck; check the Show all words box at the bottom of the list, then enter a hyphen into the Filter box at the top of the list. Eyeball the list looking for anomalous entries. such as failed-and. I also have a saved search to find non-breaking hyphens, which maybe useful in 'identifiers', such as telephone or part numbers etc, but, IMO at least, they're best avoided elsewhere. BR

11-30-2015, 02:58 PM	#5
CalibUser Addict Posts: 203 Karma: 62362 Join Date: Jul 2015 Device: Sony	Thank you for all your replies. Interesting that spellcheckers don't really seem to consider "failed-and" as a hyphenated word. As I needed my plugin to replace short hyphens by long hyphens for these types of words, I will follow the suggestion made by KevinH and use the method used by BetterRed to compile a list of words that need to have the long-hyphen changed.

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