Special characters font problem

dan2the6th · 09-11-2015, 04:41 PM

I'm doing minor editing of a book to correct problems with special characters (accented characters, etc.). When I click on "Insert special character" and select a character, it is inserted into the text in the wrong font. I've done this a lot before and never had this problem. Has something changed lately?

I have attempted to attach a small image file showing an example, a "c" with a cedilla which obviously does not fit into the surrounding text. The "c" is too large, and is sans serif in the midst of all the serif text.

kovidgoyal · 09-11-2015, 10:29 PM

Insert special character does not specify any fonts. You need to make sure that the font you are using for the body text supports the characters you are inserting, otherwise the renderer will fallback to some font that does and that font may be very different from the main font.

dan2the6th · 09-12-2015, 01:37 PM

Best I can tell, the css file specifies the Times New Roman font family for the body text. How do I tell whether this "supports" a character or not? I'm something of a beginner at this editing stuff.

theducks · 09-12-2015, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan2the6th

Best I can tell, the css file specifies the Times New Roman font family for the body text. How do I tell whether this "supports" a character or not? I'm something of a beginner at this editing stuff.

Where are you seeing the issue?

The font is a typical system font on Windows PCs, but NOT on many other devices ($$ license from Monotype needed to include).

For Private use, you could embed TNR into the book if needed.
You could Remove the font name (TNR) and specify the generic : serif

BTW in Windows, the Character Map tool to browse and insert characters (set the Face in the Pulldown at the top)

dan2the6th · 09-12-2015, 04:00 PM

Aha! This book actually includes its own font files! I'm not sure I've ever come across that. I'm sure that's where the problem lies.

Would it be possible to remove all reference to these font files and have it fall back on the system fonts? Or would that wreck everything?

There's one way to find out........

dan2the6th · 09-12-2015, 08:31 PM

Yup, that appears to have worked fine. I removed the built-in font files, and the references to those font files in the CSS, and those special characters look fine now.

By the way, I'm reading the book on a Windows PC with the calibre book viewer.

theducks · 09-12-2015, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dan2the6th

Yup, that appears to have worked fine. I removed the built-in font files, and the references to those font files in the CSS, and those special characters look fine now.

By the way, I'm reading the book on a Windows PC with the calibre book viewer.

Someone may have subsetted those fonts (remove unused characters), that you then tried to USE. since the glyph was not there, substitute time, from something else that DID.

09-11-2015, 04:41 PM	#1
dan2the6th Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: iPhone XR	Special characters font problem I'm doing minor editing of a book to correct problems with special characters (accented characters, etc.). When I click on "Insert special character" and select a character, it is inserted into the text in the wrong font. I've done this a lot before and never had this problem. Has something changed lately? I have attempted to attach a small image file showing an example, a "c" with a cedilla which obviously does not fit into the surrounding text. The "c" is too large, and is sans serif in the midst of all the serif text. Attached Thumbnails

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09-11-2015, 10:29 PM	#2
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,259 Karma: 27110894 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Insert special character does not specify any fonts. You need to make sure that the font you are using for the body text supports the characters you are inserting, otherwise the renderer will fallback to some font that does and that font may be very different from the main font.

09-12-2015, 01:37 PM	#3
dan2the6th Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: iPhone XR	Best I can tell, the css file specifies the Times New Roman font family for the body text. How do I tell whether this "supports" a character or not? I'm something of a beginner at this editing stuff.

09-12-2015, 04:00 PM	#5
dan2the6th Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: iPhone XR	Aha! This book actually includes its own font files! I'm not sure I've ever come across that. I'm sure that's where the problem lies. Would it be possible to remove all reference to these font files and have it fall back on the system fonts? Or would that wreck everything? There's one way to find out........

09-12-2015, 08:31 PM	#6
dan2the6th Connoisseur Posts: 54 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: iPhone XR	Yup, that appears to have worked fine. I removed the built-in font files, and the references to those font files in the CSS, and those special characters look fine now. By the way, I'm reading the book on a Windows PC with the calibre book viewer.

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