A Few Questions...

Glorfindel · 11-15-2014, 10:15 AM

I think I remember hearing that kindlets are java, so what are the other hacks (librerator, pbchess) using? Is there a specific language or does it not matter too much? Which one would work best if a complete beginer where to try to code a terminal emulator or IRC client (Yeah, I'm obsessed)?
TIA

knc1 · 11-15-2014, 10:37 AM

The "Accidental IRC client" for the Kindles is open source -
Check that out to see what it was written in / how involved it is to do.

Maybe just modifying one of the existing projects is an easier first step.

Glorfindel · 11-15-2014, 11:18 AM

Ok, I will check that out, thanks.

Glorfindel · 12-18-2014, 08:31 AM

Ok, so PBChess is using C++ & Qt. I am going to head in that direction... Still confused, even after having it explained several times, as to how I have the output from the irc server show in the Qt ui. But I think I can get this figured out...

brianinmaine · 12-18-2014, 10:53 PM

this link has a patch showing a gtk program with a new title:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ighlight=patch
This one has a QT window title set:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ighlight=patch

window title seems to be the most important.
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...t=window+title
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...t=window+title
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...t=window+title

aditya3098 · 12-19-2014, 04:47 AM

Yup, it has EVERYTHING to do with the window title. You might want to also look into the mplayer gui. I think it uses direct framebuffering or eips.

Glorfindel · 12-19-2014, 10:47 AM

Thank you very much brianinmaine!

Glorfindel · 05-08-2015, 10:20 PM

And thank you too, aditya3098!
CenterIM looks interresting... but then we are back to the terminal issue.

Glorfindel · 05-26-2015, 11:19 AM

I think I will see about compiling qutIM for kindle, any tips on this?

brianinmaine · 05-26-2015, 08:51 PM

looks interesting but difficult? You're planning on Kindle 4 only? the newer devices have touchsreens so they would involve keyboard input which you would have to call?

I've not seen anyone use qbs - Qt build system? on ARM/kindle yet.

Did you try ANY project yet? It would give you a better feel for the process to do something that someone else has already built, so you can ask direct questions with problems.
Also build it for regular debian or whatever first and see how that goes.

Just trying to help, GOOD LUCK!

Glorfindel · 05-26-2015, 09:10 PM

I would like to know how the osk works on a touch vs k4, wouldn't I be able to have a kb that accepts touch input AND has a selection box for use with a five way?

pbchess uses qt, wouldn't this app work similarly?

I have not, that sounds like a great first step

Thank you very much for your help and input!

brianinmaine · 05-26-2015, 10:46 PM

This is a simple way to compile some stuff in an image/chroot:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...9&postcount=30
It uses qemu-static so you can chroot right in and then apt-get what you need.
once you have built it, you can use ldd to see the dependencies and export the ones needed on you system.

11-15-2014, 10:15 AM	#1
Glorfindel Force-Aware Elf Posts: 4,762 Karma: 11557898 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valinor Device: Kindle 4 w/SO	A Few Questions... I think I remember hearing that kindlets are java, so what are the other hacks (librerator, pbchess) using? Is there a specific language or does it not matter too much? Which one would work best if a complete beginer where to try to code a terminal emulator or IRC client (Yeah, I'm obsessed)? TIA

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11-15-2014, 10:37 AM	#2
knc1 Going Viral Posts: 17,212 Karma: 18210809 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Central Texas Device: No K1, PW2, KV, KOA	The "Accidental IRC client" for the Kindles is open source - Check that out to see what it was written in / how involved it is to do. Maybe just modifying one of the existing projects is an easier first step.

11-15-2014, 11:18 AM	#3
Glorfindel Force-Aware Elf Posts: 4,762 Karma: 11557898 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valinor Device: Kindle 4 w/SO	Ok, I will check that out, thanks.

12-18-2014, 08:31 AM	#4
Glorfindel Force-Aware Elf Posts: 4,762 Karma: 11557898 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valinor Device: Kindle 4 w/SO	Ok, so PBChess is using C++ & Qt. I am going to head in that direction... Still confused, even after having it explained several times, as to how I have the output from the irc server show in the Qt ui. But I think I can get this figured out...

12-18-2014, 10:53 PM	#5
brianinmaine Evangelist Posts: 457 Karma: 1287375 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: West Gardiner, Maine Device: Touch (5.3.7)	this link has a patch showing a gtk program with a new title: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ighlight=patch This one has a QT window title set: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...ighlight=patch window title seems to be the most important. https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...t=window+title https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...t=window+title https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...t=window+title

12-19-2014, 04:47 AM	#6
aditya3098 Guru Posts: 608 Karma: 1588610 Join Date: Jan 2012 Device: Kindle Scribe	Yup, it has EVERYTHING to do with the window title. You might want to also look into the mplayer gui. I think it uses direct framebuffering or eips.

12-19-2014, 10:47 AM	#7
Glorfindel Force-Aware Elf Posts: 4,762 Karma: 11557898 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valinor Device: Kindle 4 w/SO	Thank you very much brianinmaine!

05-08-2015, 10:20 PM	#8
Glorfindel Force-Aware Elf Posts: 4,762 Karma: 11557898 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valinor Device: Kindle 4 w/SO	And thank you too, aditya3098! CenterIM looks interresting... but then we are back to the terminal issue.

05-26-2015, 11:19 AM	#9
Glorfindel Force-Aware Elf Posts: 4,762 Karma: 11557898 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valinor Device: Kindle 4 w/SO	I think I will see about compiling qutIM for kindle, any tips on this?

05-26-2015, 08:51 PM	#10
brianinmaine Evangelist Posts: 457 Karma: 1287375 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: West Gardiner, Maine Device: Touch (5.3.7)	looks interesting but difficult? You're planning on Kindle 4 only? the newer devices have touchsreens so they would involve keyboard input which you would have to call? I've not seen anyone use qbs - Qt build system? on ARM/kindle yet. Did you try ANY project yet? It would give you a better feel for the process to do something that someone else has already built, so you can ask direct questions with problems. Also build it for regular debian or whatever first and see how that goes. Just trying to help, GOOD LUCK!

05-26-2015, 09:10 PM	#11
Glorfindel Force-Aware Elf Posts: 4,762 Karma: 11557898 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Valinor Device: Kindle 4 w/SO	I would like to know how the osk works on a touch vs k4, wouldn't I be able to have a kb that accepts touch input AND has a selection box for use with a five way? pbchess uses qt, wouldn't this app work similarly? I have not, that sounds like a great first step Thank you very much for your help and input!

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05-26-2015, 10:46 PM	#12
brianinmaine Evangelist Posts: 457 Karma: 1287375 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: West Gardiner, Maine Device: Touch (5.3.7)	This is a simple way to compile some stuff in an image/chroot: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...9&postcount=30 It uses qemu-static so you can chroot right in and then apt-get what you need. once you have built it, you can use ldd to see the dependencies and export the ones needed on you system.