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Old 03-24-2015, 01:54 PM   #1
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I just noticed a book that shows EPUB3 (DRM-Free) under the download options, I haven't seen that before.

Has anyone bought a book with this download option? If so are you able to download the book as a plain epub3 from the website, or does it just mean it is a kepub?

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Old 03-24-2015, 03:07 PM   #2
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I bought an EPUB3 (with DRM) a week ago and I was able to download the .acsm. ADE failed when trying to download it to its library, it gave me an error and kept crashing... I suspect because it was a very big file (around 500mb). I had to resort to the obok plugin with Calibre in the end. Anyway yes, it was an .epub.
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I just noticed a book that shows EPUB3 (DRM-Free) under the download options, I haven't seen that before.

Has anyone bought a book with this download option? If so are you able to download the book as a plain epub3 from the website, or does it just mean it is a kepub?
I think that Kobo doesn't let you download ePub3 books. They force you to go the kepub route.

Which is real annoying, since you may be downloading it to move to an independent epub3 device.
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Old 03-24-2015, 06:53 PM   #4
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I think that Kobo doesn't let you download ePub3 books. They force you to go the kepub route.

Which is real annoying, since you may be downloading it to move to an independent epub3 device.
Yes, that's what is happening. I bought something recently that was "EPUB3 (DRM-Free)". It has the download button in the library, but gives a 404 error when pressed. I discussed it with the Kobo support and eventually got this response:

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Yes you are right.

Any books come with Epub3 format are not eligible for download from Kobo website to computer.

This is the new type of format which is only accessible via Wifi.

Unfortunately we will not be able to decide the formats since this has been determined by publishers.

We sincerely apologize for the inconveniences.
I did have to prompt them through to this response as this was discussed in a long thread in the general forum. Part of reason for asking the question was to see the response. And I think that if everyone who hits this politely complains, then Kobo will eventually fix it. They might simply remove the download button, but if we also point that we want to read the epub3 version using some other device or app, then that might put pressure on them to allow the download.
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Epub3 downloads still don't work in Australia (it's a drm-free epub3).
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Old 03-25-2015, 09:32 AM   #6
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I just noticed a book that shows EPUB3 (DRM-Free) under the download options, I haven't seen that before.

Has anyone bought a book with this download option? If so are you able to download the book as a plain epub3 from the website, or does it just mean it is a kepub?
That books shows as EPUB for me, not epub 3.
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Old 03-25-2015, 11:28 AM   #7
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I see the book in question is a Tor book (one of my publishers). Tor prides itself on being user-friendly and anti-DRM in terms of ebooks, so sending them a note, too, as well as complaining to Kobo may be effective if it really is true that the publisher is insisting on the books only being available by Wi-Fi and not via download. Tor's online efforts are coordinated by Irene Gallo, who is at irene.gallo@tor.com
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I just tried to download a free Tor ePub 3 eBook and I still get the OOPS!.

https://store.kobobooks.com/en-us/bo...w&PageNumber=1
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Old 03-25-2015, 12:08 PM   #9
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I see the book in question is a Tor book (one of my publishers). Tor prides itself on being user-friendly and anti-DRM in terms of ebooks, so sending them a note, too, as well as complaining to Kobo may be effective if it really is true that the publisher is insisting on the books only being available by Wi-Fi and not via download. Tor's online efforts are coordinated by Irene Gallo, who is at irene.gallo@tor.com
Thanks for this. I popped off a message to Irene to let her know.
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I can confirm that it is not available in Australia.

Has anyone been able to download it?

If so, what reader did you use to read it?

What features does it have that ePub2 ebooks don't have?
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I just noticed a book that shows EPUB3 (DRM-Free) under the download options, I haven't seen that before.

Has anyone bought a book with this download option? If so are you able to download the book as a plain epub3 from the website, or does it just mean it is a kepub?

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Hi GeoffR,

You should absolutely be able to download this book as an adobe DRM free epub3. The fact that you are not is a bug on our end that we are working hard to resolve. I will escalate this to our product team, but by no means are you not supposed to be able to download it. Thank you for raising this issue, I'll look to reply when we have a resolution.

Please PM me if you come across any other 'oops' page errors when attempting to download an ebook that is DRM free.

Also - our customer care team is misinformed about the ability to download. I will send them an update so they are aware of the issue.

Thanks,

Brodie
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Old 03-28-2015, 06:43 PM   #12
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Brodie: Can you also pass this on to support. Based on the reply I posted above, they don't think the books are supposed to be downloadable.
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I know of at least two other epub3 DRM free books that the download doesn't work for (I get the oops page).
Captives (book 6 of the Breakers series)
Relapse (book 7 of the Breakers series)
both by Edward W. Robertson
The books are shown as epub3 on the kobo Canada site and both result in the oops page if you use the Download epub link on the my library page.
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Has this issue been resolved? I would rather not test the expensive way. (Also, probably unrelated, downloading Samples hasn't worked for ... must be at least 6 months now.. The Sample is added to my library, but no download button ever accompanies them, regardless of Drm, Non-DRM, Epub2 or Epub3)
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Not sure if all EPUB3 are now downloadable, but people are having success with some (many?) of them. See this thread: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho...66#post3080566
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