Separate Install Questions

KayLee · 02-24-2015, 09:06 PM

How do I install two copies of Calibre?

Also as of Calibre 2.20 every time I download rar files they show up with the Calibre logo on them and E-PUBS have a little green arrow on them did the update do that? If so can it be disabled?

eschwartz · 02-24-2015, 09:17 PM

Generally speaking one does not install two copies of a program. Although it is possible to install both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of calibre. They will share the configuration.

You can also use calibre portable, distributed through calibre's website or via the portableapps.com launcher.

Re: the icons. calibre recently gained the ability to associate with files it handles via file browser ==> Open With. But only on Windows 8 which should ask what you want the default to be.

theducks · 02-24-2015, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayLee

How do I install two copies of Calibre?

Also as of Calibre 2.20 every time I download rar files they show up with the Calibre logo on them and E-PUBS have a little green arrow on them did the update do that? If so can it be disabled?

What did you do to change file associations ? Calibre did not make that change.

Open windows (file) explorer: Tools: File type (tab): Scroll down to the file extension

This is where you can set an Icon AND/OR default program to open. The Icon setting may be on the Advanced button

KayLee · 02-24-2015, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

What did you do to change file associations ? Calibre did not make that change.

Open windows (file) explorer: Tools: File type (tab): Scroll down to the file extension

This is where you can set an Icon AND/OR default program to open. The Icon setting may be on the Advanced button

I did this with E-PUBS but not rar files

I don't see any option to change it back to windows when I click on rar files.

theducks · 02-24-2015, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KayLee

I did this with E-PUBS but not rar files

I don't see any option to change it back to windows when I click on rar files.

Windows does not have a default viewer for RAR
I bought WinRAR

that does a super job of handling all archive types

I believe you can simply remove the "open" action

KayLee · 02-24-2015, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theducks

Windows does not have a default viewer for RAR
I bought WinRAR

that does a super job of handling all archive types

I believe you can simply remove the "open" action

I know windows doesn't have rar viewer I use 7zip but before today rar files would just show up as a folders.

kovidgoyal · 02-24-2015, 11:32 PM

Probably windows flakes out if there is more than one program that claims it can handle rar files. You can (probably) restore its previous behavior by using the registry editor to delete the HKEY_CURRENT_USERS\Software\Classes\.rar and then re-installing 7-zip. Although, since this is windows, who knows.

I'll change calibre to not advertise that it can handle rar files (although it can) to prevent this from happening again with future calibre upgrades.

eschwartz · 02-24-2015, 11:50 PM

Well, the default on Windows 7 here is staying with 7-Zip for me, for both RAR and ZIP... although I used the calibre-debug command to have calibre advertise itself -- calibre.exe is still the secondary option.

kovidgoyal · 02-24-2015, 11:52 PM

The problem isn't the default program. Probably 7-zip does something to make windows explorer open RAR files as folders. That something does not survive having another program advertise it can support RAR.

eschwartz · 02-25-2015, 12:01 AM

7-Zip opens archives in its own personal file browser -- does that count?

kovidgoyal · 02-25-2015, 12:07 AM

No, the OP is claiming that 7-zip causes *Windows explorer* to open rar files as folders, similar to the manner in which it opens zip files as folders by default.

eschwartz · 02-25-2015, 12:27 AM

That is interesting, I don't know of any way to do such a thing?

Windows Explorer does that, but only with ZIP.

kovidgoyal · 02-25-2015, 12:53 AM

I dont either, but advertising support for archive files is not important for calibre, so I simply disabled it to be on the safe side.

BetterRed · 02-25-2015, 01:49 AM

AFAIK no version of Windows ships with native support for RAR (including Win10). Some file managers have built in support for RAR and 7z (eg Total Commander and maybe Directory Opus), unsure if they add a shell handler that Windows Explorer can use though.

7zip v 9.20 doesn't add anything to Windows Shell to make RAR's show up as folders, maybe its in the 9.38 beta.

BR

KayLee · 02-25-2015, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kovidgoyal

Probably windows flakes out if there is more than one program that claims it can handle rar files. You can (probably) restore its previous behavior by using the registry editor to delete the HKEY_CURRENT_USERS\Software\Classes\.rar and then re-installing 7-zip. Although, since this is windows, who knows.

I'll change calibre to not advertise that it can handle rar files (although it can) to prevent this from happening again with future calibre upgrades.

You're probably right restarted my computer and it all went back to normal I have windows 8.1

Also glad to know Calibre can open rar files

02-24-2015, 09:06 PM	#1
KayLee Zealot Posts: 108 Karma: 518106 Join Date: May 2013 Device: Nook ST & iPad Air2	Separate Install Questions How do I install two copies of Calibre? Also as of Calibre 2.20 every time I download rar files they show up with the Calibre logo on them and E-PUBS have a little green arrow on them did the update do that? If so can it be disabled?

02-24-2015, 09:17 PM	#2
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Generally speaking one does not install two copies of a program. Although it is possible to install both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of calibre. They will share the configuration. You can also use calibre portable, distributed through calibre's website or via the portableapps.com launcher. Re: the icons. calibre recently gained the ability to associate with files it handles via file browser ==> Open With. But only on Windows 8 which should ask what you want the default to be. Last edited by eschwartz; 02-24-2015 at 09:21 PM.

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02-24-2015, 11:32 PM	#7
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,345 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	Probably windows flakes out if there is more than one program that claims it can handle rar files. You can (probably) restore its previous behavior by using the registry editor to delete the HKEY_CURRENT_USERS\Software\Classes\.rar and then re-installing 7-zip. Although, since this is windows, who knows. I'll change calibre to not advertise that it can handle rar files (although it can) to prevent this from happening again with future calibre upgrades.

02-24-2015, 11:50 PM	#8
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	Well, the default on Windows 7 here is staying with 7-Zip for me, for both RAR and ZIP... although I used the calibre-debug command to have calibre advertise itself -- calibre.exe is still the secondary option.

02-24-2015, 11:52 PM	#9
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,345 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	The problem isn't the default program. Probably 7-zip does something to make windows explorer open RAR files as folders. That something does not survive having another program advertise it can support RAR.

02-25-2015, 12:01 AM	#10
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	7-Zip opens archives in its own personal file browser -- does that count?

02-25-2015, 12:07 AM	#11
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,345 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	No, the OP is claiming that 7-zip causes Windows explorer to open rar files as folders, similar to the manner in which it opens zip files as folders by default.

02-25-2015, 12:27 AM	#12
eschwartz Ex-Helpdesk Junkie Posts: 19,421 Karma: 85400180 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Beaten Path, USA, Roundworld, This Side of Infinity Device: Kindle Touch fw5.3.7 (Wifi only)	That is interesting, I don't know of any way to do such a thing? Windows Explorer does that, but only with ZIP.

02-25-2015, 12:53 AM	#13
kovidgoyal creator of calibre Posts: 45,345 Karma: 27182818 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mumbai, India Device: Various	I dont either, but advertising support for archive files is not important for calibre, so I simply disabled it to be on the safe side.

02-25-2015, 01:49 AM	#14
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,718 Karma: 29711016 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	AFAIK no version of Windows ships with native support for RAR (including Win10). Some file managers have built in support for RAR and 7z (eg Total Commander and maybe Directory Opus), unsure if they add a shell handler that Windows Explorer can use though. 7zip v 9.20 doesn't add anything to Windows Shell to make RAR's show up as folders, maybe its in the 9.38 beta. BR

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