Aura HD Calibre 2.0 & Collections

stoney77 · 08-22-2014, 10:31 PM

I just upgraded calibre to version 2.0 and once again I'm having problems with Collections again. Using the instructions on this forum, I created the myshelves column and everything was going well until the calibre update. I can send books to my Kobo Aura HD with no problems, but the collections info is ignored. I updated my Kobo calibre 2.0 plugins and Kobo utilities, but still can't collections to work. When I plug in my device, the collections column is blank for all the books I've added thru calibre.

Has anyone else upgraded to calibre 2 and have this same problem? Does anyone know of any fixes? I'm very nearly at the end of my patience with the collection feature and will just quit using any further Kobo products.

Thanks for any help.

PeterT · 08-22-2014, 10:50 PM

I've done a full rebuild of my Glo using 2.0 and saw no issues with collections.

Are you sure that metadata management is set to auto?

stoney77 · 08-22-2014, 11:15 PM

Yes--I'm set for auto management. Thanks for responding so quickly. I've tried 4 times and I still can't get my Kobo to recognize the calibre collections.

PeterT · 08-22-2014, 11:39 PM

You also have to add the books, disconnect the device and let it process the new material, then reconnect the device.

How about running calibre in debug mode, then add some books, and then post the debug log here. David for is very good at diagnosing issues from log files.

PeterT · 08-23-2014, 01:12 AM

And lets just go over the basics.

You have a custom column with lookup name myshelves
You have only one of the KoboTouch and KoboTouchExtended drivers enabled; the other is either not installed, or is disabled
Which ever driver IS enabled, has #myshelves included in the list of columns to use for creating shelves in the driver configuration options
You have the option Create Bookshelves selected in the driver configuration options
Optionally you have selected Delete Empty Shelves in the driver configuration options
Optionally you have selected Set Series information in the driver configuration options (if you HAVE done this you could also add series to the list of columns to use for creating shelves; separate it by a "," from #myshelves so that you have #myshelves,series)
(The difference in syntax is that myshelves is a user added column, while series is a built in one. User Added columns are referenced by adding a # to them; built in ones are referenced just by name.)
Preferences | Sending books to devices has Metadata Management set to Automatic

davidfor · 08-23-2014, 01:42 AM

@stoney77: I have been using the calibre v2 betas since they first appeared. I have not seen any issues with the Kobo devices.

As PeterT said, check the configuration is still what you want. If you have started or stopped using the extended driver, make sure you have configured the correct driver. Then run a check on the database using the utilities plugin. If all that is OK, run in debug mode and post the complete log. That usually tells me what is happening.

stoney77 · 08-23-2014, 09:18 AM

Thanks to all for the responses (especially PeterT). This is such a great forum with so many people willing to help!!

It was my mistake---I hadn't configured the KoboTouchExtended plugin properly. I didn't scroll down far enough on the customize plugin screen and enter the #myshelves tag type column for automatic management info. Now all is good again.

Once again, many thanks for the quick responses!

lineager · 08-26-2014, 04:23 AM

Hello, is it possible to create 2-level collections?

Terisa de morgan · 08-26-2014, 05:06 AM

In Aura? No, I'm sorry, only one level, no nested collections

meeera · 08-26-2014, 05:13 AM

You can't have hierarchical collections in the standard firmware, but you can have books on multiple shelves: they behave as tags, not actual shelves.

lineager · 08-26-2014, 10:25 PM

Thanks both, I did make collection with multiple shelves, but it looks like too much shelves or series on my Aura HD :P

hleo12 · 08-26-2014, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lineager

Thanks both, I did make collection with multiple shelves, but it looks like too much shelves or series on my Aura HD :P

I have to agree with that. I have 19 pages of collections in my Glo, and it takes a while to open my collection from the homescreen.

davidfor · 08-26-2014, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lineager

Thanks both, I did make collection with multiple shelves, but it looks like too much shelves or series on my Aura HD :P

There is no limit to the number of shelves, but there is a practical limit. I have had over 30 pages of shelves which takes a while to open and go through. The opening is an issue as the more shelves, and the more books on them, the longer the list takes to open.

BeeTee-Ess · 08-27-2014, 12:12 AM

When I first came across collections, I could not get enough of them. Like David, I had pages and pages of them. As he observed, my reader was slow to open and navigate. Nonetheless, I persisted, adding more collections rather than settling for fewer.

Recently, however, I have made a radical change.

I now keep and administer all of my books in Calibre. My reader has two collections, one called General with not more than 25 books, and another called Juvenile with perhaps 20-25 books. The Juvenile selection is relatively static as I can nearly always find something the youngsters will enjoy from that list, although I happily add others on request.

My own list of 25 books in the General collection is a moveable feast.

They are all different authors chosen because I really enjoy their work. I read the books one after the other. When I have completed that set, I remove them and replace them with the next set of 25 by, essentially, the same authors, although I make changes to the author choice at this time, so that the list of authors gradually evolves.

The selection is made using Calibre, which I have tailored with virtual libraries, to assist in identifying and loading the next set of 25 authors' works. The emphasis is on making my reader pleasant to use, which it certainly is, with not more than 50 books on it at one time. Occasional reference to a large library of books is then available through Calibre, where all sorts of collections are readily created, according to my mood.

This basic procedure also suits my wife, although she prefers to read a given author's complete list in a pre-determined order, before choosing her next author(s). The principle of the lightly loaded reader still applies.

DNSB · 08-27-2014, 01:32 PM

Like Bee-Tee-Ess, I tried collections and ran into issues with slowness when they multiplied like rabbits. My personal answer was to drop all collections/shelves though they do tend to return like stubborn zombies in favour of using search. Given that Kobo's search uses series name, author name and book name and that Calibre allows for the capability to have your ebooks named with series info embedded in the name, it works quite well for me. It was a bit of wrench giving up worrying about file systems, directory layouts, etc. but after a while, I found that I no longer miss them.

Since Koreader now supports using the Calibre metadata files for search as well, it makes Koreader easier for me to use without having to revert to the old method of searching down the directory tree for the ebook I want to read.

Regards,
David

08-22-2014, 10:31 PM	#1
stoney77 Enthusiast Posts: 43 Karma: 30918 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC area Device: Kobo Elipsa 2e, Kobo Forma, Kobo Aura HD, iPad Pro, Kindle Oasis	Calibre 2.0 & Collections I just upgraded calibre to version 2.0 and once again I'm having problems with Collections again. Using the instructions on this forum, I created the myshelves column and everything was going well until the calibre update. I can send books to my Kobo Aura HD with no problems, but the collections info is ignored. I updated my Kobo calibre 2.0 plugins and Kobo utilities, but still can't collections to work. When I plug in my device, the collections column is blank for all the books I've added thru calibre. Has anyone else upgraded to calibre 2 and have this same problem? Does anyone know of any fixes? I'm very nearly at the end of my patience with the collection feature and will just quit using any further Kobo products. Thanks for any help.

08-23-2014, 01:12 AM	#5
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,384 Karma: 78877538 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	And lets just go over the basics. You have a custom column with lookup name myshelves You have only one of the KoboTouch and KoboTouchExtended drivers enabled; the other is either not installed, or is disabled Which ever driver IS enabled, has #myshelves included in the list of columns to use for creating shelves in the driver configuration options You have the option Create Bookshelves selected in the driver configuration options Optionally you have selected Delete Empty Shelves in the driver configuration options Optionally you have selected Set Series information in the driver configuration options (if you HAVE done this you could also add series to the list of columns to use for creating shelves; separate it by a "," from #myshelves so that you have #myshelves,series) (The difference in syntax is that myshelves is a user added column, while series is a built in one. User Added columns are referenced by adding a # to them; built in ones are referenced just by name.) Preferences \| Sending books to devices has Metadata Management set to Automatic Last edited by PeterT; 08-23-2014 at 01:15 AM.

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08-22-2014, 10:50 PM	#2
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,384 Karma: 78877538 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	I've done a full rebuild of my Glo using 2.0 and saw no issues with collections. Are you sure that metadata management is set to auto?

08-22-2014, 11:15 PM	#3
stoney77 Enthusiast Posts: 43 Karma: 30918 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC area Device: Kobo Elipsa 2e, Kobo Forma, Kobo Aura HD, iPad Pro, Kindle Oasis	Yes--I'm set for auto management. Thanks for responding so quickly. I've tried 4 times and I still can't get my Kobo to recognize the calibre collections.

08-22-2014, 11:39 PM	#4
PeterT Grand Sorcerer Posts: 13,384 Karma: 78877538 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto Device: Libra H2O, Libra Colour	You also have to add the books, disconnect the device and let it process the new material, then reconnect the device. How about running calibre in debug mode, then add some books, and then post the debug log here. David for is very good at diagnosing issues from log files.

08-23-2014, 01:42 AM	#6
davidfor Grand Sorcerer Posts: 24,905 Karma: 47303824 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sydney, Australia Device: Kobo:Touch,Glo, AuraH2O, GloHD,AuraONE, ClaraHD, Libra H2O; tolinoepos	@stoney77: I have been using the calibre v2 betas since they first appeared. I have not seen any issues with the Kobo devices. As PeterT said, check the configuration is still what you want. If you have started or stopped using the extended driver, make sure you have configured the correct driver. Then run a check on the database using the utilities plugin. If all that is OK, run in debug mode and post the complete log. That usually tells me what is happening.

08-23-2014, 09:18 AM	#7
stoney77 Enthusiast Posts: 43 Karma: 30918 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC area Device: Kobo Elipsa 2e, Kobo Forma, Kobo Aura HD, iPad Pro, Kindle Oasis	Thanks to all for the responses (especially PeterT). This is such a great forum with so many people willing to help!! It was my mistake---I hadn't configured the KoboTouchExtended plugin properly. I didn't scroll down far enough on the customize plugin screen and enter the #myshelves tag type column for automatic management info. Now all is good again. Once again, many thanks for the quick responses!

08-26-2014, 04:23 AM	#8
lineager Member Posts: 14 Karma: 92 Join Date: Aug 2008 Device: SONY PRS-505, Kobo Aura HD, Kobo Aura One	Hello, is it possible to create 2-level collections?

08-26-2014, 05:06 AM	#9
Terisa de morgan Grand Sorcerer Posts: 6,613 Karma: 12595249 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Device: Kobo Clara/Aura One/Forma,XiaoMI 5, iPad, Huawei MediaPad, YotaPhone 2	In Aura? No, I'm sorry, only one level, no nested collections

08-26-2014, 05:13 AM	#10
meeera Grand Sorcerer Posts: 5,807 Karma: 68407974 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Australia Device: Kobo Libra 2, iPadMini4, iPad4, MBP; support other Kobo/Kindles	You can't have hierarchical collections in the standard firmware, but you can have books on multiple shelves: they behave as tags, not actual shelves.

08-26-2014, 10:25 PM	#11
lineager Member Posts: 14 Karma: 92 Join Date: Aug 2008 Device: SONY PRS-505, Kobo Aura HD, Kobo Aura One	Thanks both, I did make collection with multiple shelves, but it looks like too much shelves or series on my Aura HD :P

08-27-2014, 12:12 AM	#14
BeeTee-Ess Addict Posts: 306 Karma: 679580 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Brisbane, Australia Device: K3, K4NT, KPW2, Voyage, iP4, iP6, iPad Mini, HP TouchPad, Kobo Mini	When I first came across collections, I could not get enough of them. Like David, I had pages and pages of them. As he observed, my reader was slow to open and navigate. Nonetheless, I persisted, adding more collections rather than settling for fewer. Recently, however, I have made a radical change. I now keep and administer all of my books in Calibre. My reader has two collections, one called General with not more than 25 books, and another called Juvenile with perhaps 20-25 books. The Juvenile selection is relatively static as I can nearly always find something the youngsters will enjoy from that list, although I happily add others on request. My own list of 25 books in the General collection is a moveable feast. They are all different authors chosen because I really enjoy their work. I read the books one after the other. When I have completed that set, I remove them and replace them with the next set of 25 by, essentially, the same authors, although I make changes to the author choice at this time, so that the list of authors gradually evolves. The selection is made using Calibre, which I have tailored with virtual libraries, to assist in identifying and loading the next set of 25 authors' works. The emphasis is on making my reader pleasant to use, which it certainly is, with not more than 50 books on it at one time. Occasional reference to a large library of books is then available through Calibre, where all sorts of collections are readily created, according to my mood. This basic procedure also suits my wife, although she prefers to read a given author's complete list in a pre-determined order, before choosing her next author(s). The principle of the lightly loaded reader still applies.

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08-27-2014, 01:32 PM	#15
DNSB Bibliophagist Posts: 45,496 Karma: 168929301 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Vancouver Device: Kobo Sage, Libra Colour, Lenovo M8 FHD, Paperwhite 4, Tolino epos	Like Bee-Tee-Ess, I tried collections and ran into issues with slowness when they multiplied like rabbits. My personal answer was to drop all collections/shelves though they do tend to return like stubborn zombies in favour of using search. Given that Kobo's search uses series name, author name and book name and that Calibre allows for the capability to have your ebooks named with series info embedded in the name, it works quite well for me. It was a bit of wrench giving up worrying about file systems, directory layouts, etc. but after a while, I found that I no longer miss them. Since Koreader now supports using the Calibre metadata files for search as well, it makes Koreader easier for me to use without having to revert to the old method of searching down the directory tree for the ebook I want to read. Regards, David