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Old 04-25-2014, 02:10 PM   #1
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Question georgia font numeric quirk

I noticed somthint a little odd when using Georia font: that some numbers extend below the line ( = serif?) and some done
so out of 123456789 1268 are postioned higher & appear smaller than 34579

At first I thought this was a Kobo implementation thing, but checking the same string in MS word with Georgia selected see the same effect.

So is their some subtle rationale for why the font is deigned like that ?

not that I've noticed it is bugging me, because it happens with the page xx of yy bit of the footer as well as with typical chapter numbers

I could read in another font & have it vanish, but I've gotten used to using Georgia

I was told a whil back that document default was similar to georgia for an epub with no font family definitions in CSs, but default font does not have this numbers quirk
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I noticed somthint a little odd when using Georia font: that some numbers extend below the line ( = serif?) and some done
so out of 123456789 1268 are postioned higher & appear smaller than 34579

At first I thought this was a Kobo implementation thing, but checking the same string in MS word with Georgia selected see the same effect.

So is their some subtle rationale for why the font is deigned like that ?
I remember some complaints about Georgia and numerals from years back. Quick checking shows one page I referred to is still there and it claimed the descending numerals looked better when mixed in with lower case text. A claim which I've seen elsewhere and find hard to agree with. Matthew Carter, the designer of Georgia, stated that he has received quite a few compliments on the numerals. Considering his history and contributions, his opinion is probably worth a lot more than mine.

http://www.sitepoint.com/principles-...ul-typography/

Perhaps I shouldn't get started on typography. It's been suggested that I tend to get very boring on the topic. (shrug)

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Old 04-25-2014, 05:36 PM   #3
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Georgia has "lower case" numerals. They look okay when they appear in the middle of a sentence such as "I am 23 years old." But they look horrible when they appear where you would expect upper case such as "CHAPTER 23".

Edit: Does anyone know of a font the same as Georgia but without these numerals?

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if I switch font to docment default, the ones in the kepub footer look better ( though the whole footer seems a bit larger) but the one in Chapter "3 are still "georgia style"
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if I switch font to docment default, the ones in the kepub footer look better ( though the whole footer seems a bit larger) but the one in Chapter "3 are still "georgia style"
From what I can tell, if you select a font, it is also used for the page footer. If you select document default, it uses a non-serif font. It is probably Gothic, but, I am not sure.
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I noticed somthint a little odd when using Georia font: that some numbers extend below the line ( = serif?) and some done
so out of 123456789 1268 are postioned higher & appear smaller than 34579

At first I thought this was a Kobo implementation thing, but checking the same string in MS word with Georgia selected see the same effect.

So is their some subtle rationale for why the font is deigned like that ?

not that I've noticed it is bugging me, because it happens with the page xx of yy bit of the footer as well as with typical chapter numbers

I could read in another font & have it vanish, but I've gotten used to using Georgia

I was told a whil back that document default was similar to georgia for an epub with no font family definitions in CSs, but default font does not have this numbers quirk
There is nothing wrong with this font but you may not like it anyway.
Georgia is transitional or baroque serif typeface. It borrowed a lot of features from other typefaces.

Fontology: Oldstyle Figures
Wikipedia
Georgia typeface
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Georgia has "lower case" numerals. They look okay when they appear in the middle of a sentence such as "I am 23 years old." But they look horrible when they appear where you would expect upper case such as "CHAPTER 23".

Edit: Does anyone know of a font the same as Georgia but without these numerals?
Check out indentifont.com. It suggest similar fonts but you have to manually check if a font has old style numerals as default numerals or not.
Fonts similar to 'Georgia'
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