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Old 03-30-2014, 12:44 PM   #1
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Conversion to PDF on mobile device

I have a book in the epub format. I need to convert it in pdf to read on the mobile device. Calibre converts perfectly and on we wash the PC document is shown normally. (acrobat pro). Then I copy it on the mobile device (HTC Android 2.2 or Sony Android 4.3) and I open by means of Adobe Reader 10.6. Externally all text and pictures are visible, but, unfortunately, I can't copy the text (as though it to be under any invisible layer). As it isn't possible to rearrange the document. Prompt please how to make normal PDF for the mobile device.

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Old 03-30-2014, 09:41 PM   #2
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calibre generated PDF files use unicode cmaps, a feature of the PDF spec that is over half a decade old. You need to find a PDF reading app for your mobile device that supports unicode cmaps.

And PDF files are never going to be re-arrangeable. If you want reflowable text, dont use PDF.
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Old 03-31-2014, 03:16 AM   #3
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calibre generated PDF files use unicode cmaps, a feature of the PDF spec that is over half a decade old. You need to find a PDF reading app for your mobile device that supports unicode cmaps.

And PDF files are never going to be re-arrangeable. If you want reflowable text, dont use PDF.
It is strange. If I re-save each page of the document created in Calibre, through Illustrator, on the mobile device I will be able to select the text and to rearrange it. I even tried to make only part of pages through Illustrator. Then on the mobile device I can copy the text only from peredelaany part of pages. Whether it is possible to change somehow cmaps that it was possible to copy, for example, the text on the mobile device in the Adobe Reader 10.6?
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Just curious why you cannot simply use the EPUB you already have? If it's an EPUB already, it probably doesn't have fixed-format content, so why do you specifically need a PDF?

Just install an EPUB-reading app (Mantano or Moon+ for example) and use that. It will support both text reflow and text copying.
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Just curious why you cannot simply use the EPUB you already have? If it's an EPUB already, it probably doesn't have fixed-format content, so why do you specifically need a PDF?

Just install an EPUB-reading app (Mantano or Moon+ for example) and use that. It will support both text reflow and text copying.
I have epub, fb2 formats. I know that there are programs for viewing of these formats and they have no problems. But me in this case the PDF format interests.
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I have epub, fb2 formats. I know that there are programs for viewing of these formats and they have no problems. But me in this case the PDF format interests.
I know you have them, you said so in your OP.

You still haven't answered the question, though -- what is wrong with reading those?

What is this overriding need to avoid reading what works and
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and instead read a version that does have problems, when it has none of the features you want? Unlike the original format which works just fine and has every feature you said you want.

If you simply wish the experience of getting it to work, I fear you may be disappointed.
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I know you have them, you said so in your OP.

You still haven't answered the question, though -- what is wrong with reading those?
Any of formats of books: epub, fb2 - works perfectly. But, unfortunately it was necessary for me also the PDF format of the same books. I have two programs for epub conversion in other formats, including pdf. The second of them - Calibre. If to convert the book the first program, on PC and the mobile device I can copy the text and rearrange it. In a case with Calibre I receive excellent pdf, but only for PC. For the mobile device it isn't acceptable. Therefore I also had a question. Unfortunately the first program does pdf worse than Calibre, but it was necessary to use it.
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Any of formats of books: epub, fb2 - works perfectly. But, unfortunately it was necessary for me also the PDF format of the same books. I have two programs for epub conversion in other formats, including pdf. The second of them - Calibre. If to convert the book the first program, on PC and the mobile device I can copy the text and rearrange it. In a case with Calibre I receive excellent pdf, but only for PC. For the mobile device it isn't acceptable. Therefore I also had a question. Unfortunately the first program does pdf worse than Calibre, but it was necessary to use it.
I'll ask again, why?
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I'll ask again, why?
@eschwartz And why do you need to know?

The format someone uses on what device, using which software, at what time of day, in which location, and on what whim, is their business - they don't have justify their choice to you.

Methinks you're engaging in a little idle zealotry and you're obfuscating the OPs 'problem'

@zharik86 - try using a different PDF reader on your android device, there are plenty to choose from - here's a comparative review of some the free ones ==>> http://www.techsupportalert.com/cont...er-android.htm - not sure how old it is.

I'd start with the one from Foxit - they've been doing PDF's for almost as long as Adobe has.

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I'll ask again, why?
The difficult political situation in the country obliges me to have directly some formats of the same book: ) . If it is serious, a format I can use pdf not only on mobile devices, but also in case of the quality printing. There was an opportunity to make the document for these two cases. It as one from this, why the PDF format is necessary to me.


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@zharik86 - try using a different PDF reader on your android device, there are plenty to choose from - here's a comparative review of some the free ones ==>> http://www.techsupportalert.com/cont...er-android.htm - not sure how old it is.
Thanks for your decision. However, if to install other programs, probably it is necessary to set reader which reads many of formats including pdf. Or, as always, to write such program most. (It at least will be without persuasive advertizing). Though pdf a formatis rather difficult on the structure, is unclear why Adobe won't make normal Reader for mobile devices.
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The difficult political situation in the country obliges me to have directly some formats of the same book: ) . If it is serious, a format I can use pdf not only on mobile devices, but also in case of the quality printing. There was an opportunity to make the document for these two cases. It as one from this, why the PDF format is necessary to However, if to install other programs, probably it is necessary to set reader which reads many of formats including pdf. Or, as always, to write such program most. (It at least will be without persuasive advertizing). Though pdf a formatis rather difficult on the structure, is unclear why Adobe won't make normal Reader for mobile devices.
@zharik86 - I have no idea why Adobe doesn't have an Android PDF reader that meets your needs, nor do I particularly care why they don't. I've been around too long to ponder such questions

One of the 'nice things' about Android (and Windows) is that there are always alternatives to the mainstream - I suggest you try some of them.

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@eschwartz And why do you need to know?

The format someone uses on what device, using which software, at what time of day, in which location, and on what whim, is their business - they don't have justify their choice to you.

Methinks you're engaging in a little idle zealotry and you're obfuscating the OPs 'problem'
My guess is a little different: wanting to know what the OP's actual problem is, in order to help solve it. It's not uncommon that the question a user presents with is not the actual question that needs answering in order to meet their needs.

There was a major disconnect in the OP. "I want to read the book on my mobile device in a reflowable format" is met by using the existing epub, not creating a pdf. So rather than play around with guessing games, one asks.
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@eschwartz And why do you need to know?

The format someone uses on what device, using which software, at what time of day, in which location, and on what whim, is their business - they don't have justify their choice to you.

Methinks you're engaging in a little idle zealotry and you're obfuscating the OPs 'problem'
Why?

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My guess is a little different: wanting to know what the OP's actual problem is, in order to help solve it. It's not uncommon that the question a user presents with is not the actual question that needs answering in order to meet their needs.

There was a major disconnect in the OP. "I want to read the book on my mobile device in a reflowable format" is met by using the existing epub, not creating a pdf. So rather than play around with guessing games, one asks.
But maybe I wasn't clear enough, that has been known to happen.
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The difficult political situation in the country obliges me to have directly some formats of the same book: ) . If it is serious, a format I can use pdf not only on mobile devices, but also in case of the quality printing. There was an opportunity to make the document for these two cases. It as one from this, why the PDF format is necessary to me.
The EPUB will have quality printing as well.

If you just want one copy that works everywhere, calibre does have a built-in EPUB (or any calibre-supported format) viewer which can work on your/others' computers.

Or just use PDF on your computer/for printing, and use EPUB on your mobile device.
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My guess is a little different: wanting to know what the OP's actual problem is, in order to help solve it. It's not uncommon that the question a user presents with is not the actual question that needs answering in order to meet their needs.
The PDF format both on PC, and on the mobile device is necessary for me. With those opportunities as I wrote above.

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The EPUB will have quality printing as well.

If you just want one copy that works everywhere, calibre does have a built-in EPUB (or any calibre-supported format) viewer which can work on your/others' computers.

Or just use PDF on your computer/for printing, and use EPUB on your mobile device.
Thanks for your answers. Most likely I will use the first of two programs for converting of the documents necessary to me. Though the structure of the document turns out worse than if to use Calibre. But it can be corrected then manually. I know that the PDF formatis rather difficult on the structure. Converting the document in pdf with use of two programs, I received, finally, almost visually coinciding documents. But on the mobile device from the documents, made bymeans ofCalibre, it was impossible to make anything. Therefore I also had a question that here not so.
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