Wikipedia on unregistered device

peterson · 03-14-2014, 09:52 AM

I have a PW2 and chose not to register it. However I am now missing the "Wikipedia" feature when selecting a word. Why is this bound to a registration and is there any way to circumvent this, i.e. fetch the data from Wikipedia?

HarryT · 03-14-2014, 10:03 AM

It just is. I guess it's an incentive to register. Any particular reason not to do so?

dsmid · 03-14-2014, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterson

I have a PW2 and chose not to register it. However I am now missing the "Wikipedia" feature when selecting a word. Why is this bound to a registration and is there any way to circumvent this, i.e. fetch the data from Wikipedia?

It's because this line in config.xml of wikipedia.acx:

Code:

<kindle:requiresRegistration>true</kindle:requiresRegistration>

Kindle doesn't communicate directly with Wikipedia, it uses these two Amazon service points:

Code:

https://wiki-acx.amazon.com/V1/wiki
https://wiki-acx.amazon.co.uk/V1/wiki

It should be easy to change the parameter to false and rebuild the ACX, if you want to give it a try.

peterson · 03-14-2014, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harryt

It just is. I guess it's an incentive to register. Any particular reason not to do so?

Primarily to prevent data exchange with Amazon (at least I hope that there is no data exchange when the device is unregistered). They do not need to know what I am reading, or have access to e.g. deleting books, as happened in the past if I recall the news correctly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmid

It's because this line in config.xml of wikipedia.acx:

Code:

<kindle:requiresRegistration>true</kindle:requiresRegistration>

Kindle doesn't communicate directly with Wikipedia, it uses these two Amazon service points:

Code:

https://wiki-acx.amazon.com/V1/wiki
https://wiki-acx.amazon.co.uk/V1/wiki

It should be easy to change the parameter to false and rebuild the ACX, if you want to give it a try.

I will give this a try (first I'll have to check out how to actually do that :-) I suppose https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kindle_Touch_ACX applies to the PW2 as well?)

Akirainblack · 03-14-2014, 11:47 AM

LoL, I've just read up on Amazon deleting books. Of all the books to delete they had to pick that one. ROFLMAO!! They can't have thought about the irony of removing it.

dsmid · 03-14-2014, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterson

I will give this a try (first I'll have to check out how to actually do that :-) I suppose https://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/Kindle_Touch_ACX applies to the PW2 as well?)

Yes, it does.
See this thread to get started:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho....php?p=2786844

HarryT · 03-14-2014, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akirainblack

LoL, I've just read up on Amazon deleting books. Of all the books to delete they had to pick that one. ROFLMAO!! They can't have thought about the irony of removing it.

Ancient history. No point in getting stressed about it.

peterson · 03-14-2014, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmid

Yes, it does.
See this thread to get started:
https://www.mobileread.com/forums/sho....php?p=2786844

Ah, this is very helpful. The wiki page did not quite work out, the code signer was not able to update the acx-file for some reason. With your scripts it works, I am assuming the required key is already on the device via other means?

As for the Wikipedia ACX: unfortunately setting requiresRegistration to false does not work, now I get "The selection application could not be started. Please try again." (if I change it back to true and re-create/sign the .acx file, I get the "requires registration" again so I believe that it is not a problem with the way I updated it).

Apparently the services does actually require a registered device (possibly checked on the server side). So the only option would be to re-implement the functionality.

dsmid · 03-14-2014, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterson

Ah, this is very helpful. The wiki page did not quite work out, the code signer was not able to update the acx-file for some reason. With your scripts it works, I am assuming the required key is already on the device via other means?

The original websigner didn't work on Linux due to a problem with creating temporary file.
My version is fixed.
The public key is actually installed to Kindle as a part of AcXE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterson

Apparently the services does actually require a registered device (possibly checked on the server side). So the only option would be to re-implement the functionality.

Can you try gtranslator.acx ? It has requiresRegistration set to false as well and doesn't use Amazon services.

peterson · 03-14-2014, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmid

The original websigner didn't work on Linux due to a problem with creating temporary file.
My version is fixed.
The public key is actually installed to Kindle as a part of AcXE.

I didn't install it

Quote:

Can you try gtranslator.acx ? It has requiresRegistration set to false as well and doesn't use Amazon services.

Both gtranslator and wikipedia give me "No network detected. Please check your connection and try again.". On the console I can ping any network I want, the experimental browser also works fine.

dsmid · 03-14-2014, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterson

Both gtranslator and wikipedia give me "No network detected. Please check your connection and try again.". On the console I can ping any network I want, the experimental browser also works fine.

Try to find places in .js files where the network connection is checked and "no_network" error is fired and make it ignore the false error.

peterson · 03-14-2014, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmid

Try to find places in .js files where the network connection is checked and "no_network" error is fired and make it ignore the false error.

I disabled in wikipedia.js two instances and afterwards it worked. I believe the relevant line was

Code:

if (connectivityObject.isConnected())

, so there seems to be an issue verifying that the network is connected ?!

Remembering Disabling_Wifi_network_validation I added the file, but this by itself did not solve the issue.

dsmid · 03-14-2014, 02:48 PM

I suppose the connectivity check is done by sending some sort of "ping" with your registration id to an Amazon service.

I'm glad it works after all.

peterson · 03-14-2014, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsmid

I suppose the connectivity check is done by sending some sort of "ping" with your registration id to an Amazon service.

I'm glad it works after all.

Thank you very very much for your help!

dsmid · 03-15-2014, 03:43 AM

You may like this Wikipedia ACX patch: It add's a "Search Google" link to the result box.
Very handy when Wikipedia doesn't know about the search string or when you actually need to Google it instead.

The patch should be applied on a js-beautified source.

03-14-2014, 09:52 AM	#1
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