Three titles that will not delete from PW2 - [SOLVED]

Dr. Drib · 02-26-2014, 11:05 AM

I recently bought 5 titles in a series.

I added them to calibre and then added them to my Kindle (from calibre). I then added them to my folder called FICTION. I then read one and deleted it. I then decided to remove the remaining three but leave only the second one in the series on the Kindle - to read next, of course.

My problem is that during a recent wifi connection, these these 3 titles were added back to the Kindle (from the CLOUD, apparently), and now I am unable to delete them from my Kindle

What is actually there (in the FICTION folder) is the image. (I think that's correct.) I have no choice to delete when I tap on the image and hold. These are my choices when I do that: ADD TO HOME; ADD TO FREE TIME LIBRARY; ADD TO COLLECTION; BOOK DESCRIPTION.

There is no choice to delete. As mentioned, these are apparently the images. When I click to just download them, I can download them fine; but then, upon attempting to delete them, the images are left in the folder. (Again, I am assuming these are merely images; I don't really know.)

I've tried going to the CLOUD and deleting them from my folder, to no avail.

To sum up:

1) I don't want these titles on my Kindle - at this time.
2) When I DO want them on my Kindle, I want to use my calibre version rather than what's in the CLOUD.

I'm tempted to just simply delete them from my account, never to be available to me again except through my calibre versions. Is that a realistic solution?

Any suggestions, please?

HarryT · 02-26-2014, 11:12 AM

They aren't in a folder, they're in a COLLECTION, which is a completely different thing. Items on the Amazon cloud retain their "membership" of a collection even when they've been deleted from your Kindle.

If you select the "Author" or "Title" view of the Home Page on your Kindle, you won't (I hope!) see the books there. You'll only see them if you view the collection, and that's simply because they are still in the collection, even though they're on the cloud and not your Kindle.

Dr. Drib · 02-26-2014, 11:45 AM

You're right: I meant COLLECTION.

They are not on my Home Page. But they (or the images) are still in the COLLECTION that I have named Fiction.

Any idea of how to get rid of them, short of deleting these titles from my account? (This artificially - and incorrectly - inflates the number of titles I have in my Fiction Collection.

HarryT · 02-26-2014, 11:47 AM

The only way to get rid of them is to remove them from the collection. ie download them to your Kindle and remove them from the collection.

Dr. Drib · 02-26-2014, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

The only way to get rid of them is to remove them from the collection. ie download them to your Kindle and remove them from the collection.

I tried that. But I'll do it again. Will report back in a moment.

Dr. Drib · 02-26-2014, 12:14 PM

OK: I downloaded the three books, again. - and it increased the number of titles in my Collection called Fiction to 117. (There were previously 114.)

I then deleted the titles, and the images remained.

I'm back where I started.

HarryT · 02-26-2014, 01:03 PM

No, I think you misunderstood what I was saying. The images will remain in the collection as long as those books are members of the collection, even if the books are only in the cloud. The only way to make them disappear from the collection is to actually remove their membership of the collection. ie edit the collection and take the books out of it. Deleting the book from the Kindle doesn't take them out of the collection.

Dr. Drib · 02-26-2014, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarryT

No, I think you misunderstood what I was saying. The images will remain in the collection as long as those books are members of the collection, even if the books are only in the cloud. The only way to make them disappear from the collection is to actually remove their membership of the collection. ie edit the collection and take the books out of it. Deleting the book from the Kindle doesn't take them out of the collection.

Let me try to understand:

Download the titles again, and then delete them from the collection. At that point, they are out of the collection (let's hope!) and are:

1) Only on the Home page
2) or have been completely deleted from my Kindle.

Does any action need to be taken in the Cloud?

HarryT · 02-26-2014, 01:54 PM

That is correct. No, nothing needs to be done in the cloud.

Dr. Drib · 02-26-2014, 02:06 PM

Thank you, Harry.

Fellow members: The issue is now solved, thanks to Harry.

Recap:

1) Download the titles (if you only have an image)
2) Delete the titles from the COLLECTION
3) Titles can now be deleted from the Kindle

Title of the thread will reflect this changed status of solved.

Don
(Moderator)

GirlyPantz · 03-11-2014, 03:18 AM

LOL I have the exact reverse of this issue.... on my last Kindle Paperwhite Next Gen the shadow of the book remained in my collection and I liked it that way because it made it easy to see what I had read and what was in storage for each collection. On the replacement Next Gen I lost that feature

My cunning plan was to dump my full library into personal documents and sort them into collections and then remove the unnecessary files from the device. My thinking was that this would make finding all the necessary files for any collection much easier if all you had available was a kindle, a wifi hotspot and a poor memory lol

02-26-2014, 11:05 AM	#1
Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 45,391 Karma: 59504381 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour	Three titles that will not delete from PW2 - [SOLVED] I recently bought 5 titles in a series. I added them to calibre and then added them to my Kindle (from calibre). I then added them to my folder called FICTION. I then read one and deleted it. I then decided to remove the remaining three but leave only the second one in the series on the Kindle - to read next, of course. My problem is that during a recent wifi connection, these these 3 titles were added back to the Kindle (from the CLOUD, apparently), and now I am unable to delete them from my Kindle What is actually there (in the FICTION folder) is the image. (I think that's correct.) I have no choice to delete when I tap on the image and hold. These are my choices when I do that: ADD TO HOME; ADD TO FREE TIME LIBRARY; ADD TO COLLECTION; BOOK DESCRIPTION. There is no choice to delete. As mentioned, these are apparently the images. When I click to just download them, I can download them fine; but then, upon attempting to delete them, the images are left in the folder. (Again, I am assuming these are merely images; I don't really know.) I've tried going to the CLOUD and deleting them from my folder, to no avail. To sum up: 1) I don't want these titles on my Kindle - at this time. 2) When I DO want them on my Kindle, I want to use my calibre version rather than what's in the CLOUD. I'm tempted to just simply delete them from my account, never to be available to me again except through my calibre versions. Is that a realistic solution? Any suggestions, please?

02-26-2014, 01:03 PM	#7
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	No, I think you misunderstood what I was saying. The images will remain in the collection as long as those books are members of the collection, even if the books are only in the cloud. The only way to make them disappear from the collection is to actually remove their membership of the collection. ie edit the collection and take the books out of it. Deleting the book from the Kindle doesn't take them out of the collection. Last edited by HarryT; 02-26-2014 at 01:05 PM.

02-26-2014, 02:06 PM	#10
Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 45,391 Karma: 59504381 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour	Thank you, Harry. Fellow members: The issue is now solved, thanks to Harry. Recap: 1) Download the titles (if you only have an image) 2) Delete the titles from the COLLECTION 3) Titles can now be deleted from the Kindle Title of the thread will reflect this changed status of solved. Don (Moderator) Last edited by Dr. Drib; 02-26-2014 at 02:09 PM.

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02-26-2014, 11:12 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	They aren't in a folder, they're in a COLLECTION, which is a completely different thing. Items on the Amazon cloud retain their "membership" of a collection even when they've been deleted from your Kindle. If you select the "Author" or "Title" view of the Home Page on your Kindle, you won't (I hope!) see the books there. You'll only see them if you view the collection, and that's simply because they are still in the collection, even though they're on the cloud and not your Kindle.

02-26-2014, 11:45 AM	#3
Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 45,391 Karma: 59504381 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour	You're right: I meant COLLECTION. They are not on my Home Page. But they (or the images) are still in the COLLECTION that I have named Fiction. Any idea of how to get rid of them, short of deleting these titles from my account? (This artificially - and incorrectly - inflates the number of titles I have in my Fiction Collection.

02-26-2014, 11:47 AM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	The only way to get rid of them is to remove them from the collection. ie download them to your Kindle and remove them from the collection.

02-26-2014, 12:14 PM	#6
Dr. Drib Grand Sorcerer Posts: 45,391 Karma: 59504381 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peru Device: KINDLE: Oasis 3, Scribe (1st), Matcha; KOBO: Libra 2, Libra Colour	OK: I downloaded the three books, again. - and it increased the number of titles in my Collection called Fiction to 117. (There were previously 114.) I then deleted the titles, and the images remained. I'm back where I started.

02-26-2014, 01:54 PM	#9
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	That is correct. No, nothing needs to be done in the cloud.

03-11-2014, 03:18 AM	#11
GirlyPantz Junior Member Posts: 2 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Brisbane, Australia Device: Kindle Paperwhite Next Gen	LOL I have the exact reverse of this issue.... on my last Kindle Paperwhite Next Gen the shadow of the book remained in my collection and I liked it that way because it made it easy to see what I had read and what was in storage for each collection. On the replacement Next Gen I lost that feature My cunning plan was to dump my full library into personal documents and sort them into collections and then remove the unnecessary files from the device. My thinking was that this would make finding all the necessary files for any collection much easier if all you had available was a kindle, a wifi hotspot and a poor memory lol

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