MYK - Cannot delete Dictionaries

[nynaevelan]

Why is it Amazon has set it up so that you can no longer delete dictionaries? Now we have to have our MYK filled with dictionaries in languages that we do not read or speak?? WTH??

It has been that way for quite a while. Long before the new MYK page was introduced, deleted dictionaries would reappear. Amazon really doesn't understand reading and libraries, IMHO. I'm tired of all the foreign language dictionaries and User Guides, which I will never use, cluttering up an already cluttered MYK page.

[Josieb1]

It's the multiple Asian dictionaries that annoy me the most. Why they think I need 4 Chinese and one Japanese dictionary is beyond me.

[nynaevelan]

Originally Posted by jswinden

It has been that way for quite a while. Long before the new MYK page was introduced, deleted dictionaries would reappear. Amazon really doesn't understand reading and libraries, IMHO. I'm tired of all the foreign language dictionaries and User Guides, which I will never use, cluttering up and already cluttered MYK page.

I guess I never noticed this because I deleted them the last time I updated, and of course they are all now back since the 4.4.2.1 update installed. It is good that they no longer show up on the "books" menu but since it defaults to the "all items" menu, they are all there. If they are going to force you to keep dictionaries, they could have the courtesy to limit them to the selected language only.

[sirmaru]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

It's the multiple Asian dictionaries that annoy me the most. Why they think I need 4 Chinese and one Japanese dictionary is beyond me.

Chinese (漢語) comprises of seven main dialects, Mandarin (官話), Cantonese (廣州話, 廣府話), Hakka (客家話), Wu (吳語), Min (閩語), Xiang (湘語), and Gan (贛語

Mandarin is the Government Official language. Cantonese is the most widely used. They really needed 7 dictionaries.

[Josieb1]

Luckily I can't see your post Sirmaru, but I can categorically say that I don't want ANY Chinese dictionaries regardless of his many dialects there are! I am not Chinese and don't plan to read it.

[sirmaru]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

Luckily I can't see your post Sirmaru, but I can categorically say that I don't want ANY Chinese dictionaries regardless of his many dialects there are! I am not Chinese and don't plan to read it.

I wrote part of that post in Chinese in error (I won't reveal which dialect). I bet most folks can't read it.

By the way, I am NOT Chinese but do read books written in those languages at times: i.e., Sun Tzu's Art of War (1930 Edition).

I notice my MYK page has SIXTEEN User Guides. That is really far too many. By the way, they cannot be seen if one just taps "books." Users should have the right to permanently delete user guides. However, those deletions can never be recovered. Today you may only need an English dictionary but tomorrow you may need dictionaries for other languages. That is why they should not be deleted unless Amazon figures out a way to recover them if necessary.

It appears we are a multinational forum and have users of many, many languages. Most non-American serious readers tend to read books in many languages. Outside of America most literate folks can understand at least 2 or 3 languages and in many parts of the world understanding 5 to 8 languages is almost compulsory.

In Europe understanding English, German and French in addition to one's home language is really necessary. In Asia understanding Japanese, ALL 7 Chinese languages (dialects) PLUS English is really required. In South America understanding Spanish, Portuguese, English and German is really required. In Canada understanding English and French is REQUIRED by law. Even in America understanding BOTH English and Spanish is a good idea. In the Mideast understanding Arabic, Pashtoon, English and French is really required.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by sirmaru

Chinese (漢語) comprises of seven main dialects, Mandarin (官話), Cantonese (廣州話, 廣府話), Hakka (客家話), Wu (吳語), Min (閩語), Xiang (湘語), and Gan (贛語

Mandarin is the Government Official language. Cantonese is the most widely used. They really needed 7 dictionaries.

Thank you for your irrelevant meaningless comment. No matter how many dictionaries there should be, the statement made was that 4 dictionaries WERE given, and the important part of the statement was that (regardless of how many there were or should have been) none are needed!

[sirmaru]

Originally Posted by eschwartz

Thank you for your irrelevant meaningless comment. No matter how many dictionaries there should be, the statement made was that 4 dictionaries WERE given, and the important part of the statement was that (regardless of how many there were or should have been) none are needed!

I beg to differ. Each of us have different NEEDS. I don't begrudge too many dictionaries. I would be upset if there were too few. If you only tap BOOKS, you won't see any dictionaries. You can delete them PERMANENTLY from your Kindles but NOT from the MYK page.

As I said, once permanently deleted from the MYK page, they can never be recovered.

If you are unilingual, you are a very small MINORITY on planet Earth.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by sirmaru

I beg to differ. Each of us have different NEEDS. I don't begrudge too many dictionaries. I would be upset if there were too few. If you only tap BOOKS, you won't see any dictionaries. You can delete them PERMANENTLY from your Kindles but NOT from the MYK page.

As I said, once permanently deleted from the MYK page, they can never be recovered.

If you are unilingual, you are a very small MINORITY on planet Earth.

And if someone doesn't want them, they should have the right to permanently delete them, the same way they can permanently delete a purchased book. Plus there is the fact that in all my experimentation deregistering and reregistering will restore all dictionaries and User Guides.

I am not saying Amazon shouldn't offer them, I am merely saying they should not stop you from getting rid of a feature you don't want.

This is a matter completely independent of how many languages I know, so why are you once again trying to confuse issues by accusing people of being "minorities". IIRC I am also a stupid minority because I am not a sirmarustomer but instead use calibre.

[Josieb1]

After the fiasco of Cloud Collections I currently have no plans to buy another Kindle but I sincerely hope that if I ever do these irrelevant dictionaries do not get duplicated. I set of everything is bad enough.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by Josieb1

After the fiasco of Cloud Collections I currently have no plans to buy another Kindle but I sincerely hope that if I ever do these irrelevant dictionaries do not get duplicated. I set of everything is bad enough.

They don't get duplicated, but they will get refreshed. I used to delete the dictionaries from MYK to keep it clean, but every time I reregistered they came back. (I sometimes switch between two different accounts, if a relative buys a book I want.) Now I stopped bothering, and I can reassure you they don't multiply.

I am pretty sure the reason is because you don't have ANY dictionaries until you register your first device. Amazon just double-checks to make sure you have all their dictionaries, every time you register a device.

[susan_cassidy]

What if you suddenly decided to study Spanish or some other language? Then, you'd be glad that the dictionary was there.

I don't get why people get so put out by having a few extra free books on their account.

[eschwartz]

Originally Posted by susan_cassidy

What if you suddenly decided to study Spanish or some other language? Then, you'd be glad that the dictionary was there.

I don't get why people get so put out by having a few extra free books on their account.

If someone is really positive that they don't want it, why should they be stopped from doing so? It should be a choice. Is that so unreasonable?

For the record, I stopped caring a long time ago, and remain content that they all appear way WAY behind the first 500 or so books to load, but some people do care.

We are allowed to delete a book that we paid for, thus requiring us to pay more money to regain the right to read it, but we cannot delete a useless dictionary that we never asked for?

Originally Posted by susan_cassidy

What if you suddenly decided to study Spanish or some other language? Then, you'd be glad that the dictionary was there.

I don't get why people get so put out by having a few extra free books on their account.

If the MYK page was better designed and didn't take so long to navigate, I would agree with you. But extra clutter on a slow page is an unwanted thing.

eschwartz: Although dictionaries don't multiply with the purchase of new Kindles, the User Guides sometimes do. I've a got a gillion copies of old User Guides in multiple languages from the K3, K4, and Paperwhites.