Edit book - confused about saving

Moonraker · 01-04-2014, 06:55 AM

After making small changes in my epub file using Calibre's Book Editor and then saving the file I find that my book is exactly the same as it was before the editing i.e. the changes have not taken place.

But if I immediately convert the file (epub to epub) the changes are there.

Why should conversion be necessary if I have saved the file after making the changes.

Is it me? Am I missing something?

HarryT · 01-04-2014, 07:12 AM

Conversion shouldn't be necessary. Simply saving from the editor works fine for me.

Moonraker · 01-04-2014, 07:31 AM

Well, I don't know where Calibre is saving the file. It's not saving to the same folder that the original was in. i.e. it don't overwrite the original.

It will save a new file if I select "Save a copy" and give it a different name and place in another folder.

Still confused!

HarryT · 01-04-2014, 07:34 AM

Are you editing one of the books in your Calibre library, or running the editor externally? If I right click on a book in my Calibre library, select "Edit Book" from the pop-up menu, edit the book, then save it, the changes are certainly showing up for me.

Moonraker · 01-04-2014, 07:41 AM

I don't use a Calibre Library. I keep all my books in other folders in Windows.

I drag and drop a book onto the Calibre screen from one of these Windows folders.

After making changes I press "save" and then cannot find the file. I have looked into Calibre's Own Library folder which is where books go after conversion but it is not there.

So I still don't know where Calibre puts the file?

HarryT · 01-04-2014, 08:16 AM

Ah, OK. Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with that workflow and can't assist.

Does it work if you run the editor, open the book from within the editor, then save it?

theducks · 01-04-2014, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moonraker

I don't use a Calibre Library. I keep all my books in other folders in Windows.

I drag and drop a book onto the Calibre screen from one of these Windows folders.

After making changes I press "save" and then cannot find the file. I have looked into Calibre's Own Library folder which is where books go after conversion but it is not there.

So I still don't know where Calibre puts the file?

I think you need to NOT use drag and drop if you are going to edit books.
Edit expects to put the book back where it came from. Drop is thin air (no return path)

you can use the CLI
I made a BAT file that contains:

Code:

calibre-debug -t %1.epub

HarryT · 01-04-2014, 08:56 AM

Or just put a shortcut to the editor on your desktop, run it, and use the editor's "File/Open" command.

Moonraker · 01-04-2014, 10:44 AM

I have been experimenting.

There is no way to start Calibre and select File Open. I do not get that option. I can select File Add but then the book does not save when using the editor. This is what is confusing to me. I get the option to save the file from within Editor but it does not save.

The best way, so far, is to do what Harry suggested and have a shortcut to the Editor on my desktop. I get the option to Open Book and I get the option to Save or Save a Copy. I don't get the option to Save File As but I suppose Save a Copy is nearly the same thing. At least, doing it this way my editing is saved.

Thank you all for your help.

HarryT · 01-04-2014, 10:48 AM

Glad you've got it working!

BetterRed · 01-05-2014, 12:33 AM

@Moonraker - I prefer to do any 'serious' editing away from the calibre library folders - by serious I mean anything that's more than a few minutes effort. So I copy the epub from its library folder to a work in progress (wip) folder.

In the wip folder I select Edit from the Windows shell context menu, for epubs Edit is associated with ebook-edit.exe. At the start of an editing session I do a Save a Copy with "<whatever>.nnn.epub" - where nnn is a counter. When I finally finish editing a book I do a regular Save.

So in my wip folder I end up with

title - author.000.epub
title - author.001.epub
title - author.002.epub
...
title - author.nnn.epub
title - author.epub

The last one is what I will eventually put back into the library when editing is complete.

BR

Moonraker · 01-05-2014, 04:16 AM

Quote:

@Moonraker - I prefer to do any 'serious' editing away from the calibre library folders - by serious I mean anything that's more than a few minutes effort. So I copy the epub from its library folder to a work in progress (wip) folder.

That's exactly how I work also, but I mainly use Sigil for the editing.

This one time I had a very small correction to be made so decided to try out Calibre's Edit Book. It ended up taking me much longer but at least I got an idea of how the Edit programme works.

I do now have Edit e-books in Windows shell but I shall continue to use Sigil for the majority of my editing, at least for the time being.

I find it very comforting to have two applications that can edit e-pubs.

crutledge · 01-05-2014, 04:36 AM

I have brought this up before.

Calibre always opens the SAVE at the last place you saved a file rather than the location of the file you have just loaded.

I do not use the editor but the same condition may happen. No choice location of save location is presented when saving in the editor.

mrmikel · 01-05-2014, 07:00 AM

A choice is presented if you save a copy. But you get a dialog box asking if you want to replace the existing one, if it will overwrite a file with the same name.

01-04-2014, 06:55 AM	#1
Moonraker Addict Posts: 314 Karma: 1002965 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Device: ILiad. Gen 3, PocketBook 360, Kobo Aura HD, Kindle Oasis 2	Edit book - confused about saving After making small changes in my epub file using Calibre's Book Editor and then saving the file I find that my book is exactly the same as it was before the editing i.e. the changes have not taken place. But if I immediately convert the file (epub to epub) the changes are there. Why should conversion be necessary if I have saved the file after making the changes. Is it me? Am I missing something?

01-05-2014, 12:33 AM	#11
BetterRed null operator (he/him) Posts: 21,725 Karma: 29711016 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sydney Australia Device: none	@Moonraker - I prefer to do any 'serious' editing away from the calibre library folders - by serious I mean anything that's more than a few minutes effort. So I copy the epub from its library folder to a work in progress (wip) folder. In the wip folder I select Edit from the Windows shell context menu, for epubs Edit is associated with ebook-edit.exe. At the start of an editing session I do a Save a Copy with "<whatever>.nnn.epub" - where nnn is a counter. When I finally finish editing a book I do a regular Save. So in my wip folder I end up with title - author.000.epub title - author.001.epub title - author.002.epub ... title - author.nnn.epub title - author.epub The last one is what I will eventually put back into the library when editing is complete. BR Last edited by BetterRed; 01-06-2014 at 06:40 PM.

01-05-2014, 04:36 AM	#13
crutledge eBook FANatic Posts: 18,301 Karma: 16078357 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Alabama, USA Device: HP ipac RX5915 Wife's Kindle	Save Location I have brought this up before. Calibre always opens the SAVE at the last place you saved a file rather than the location of the file you have just loaded. I do not use the editor but the same condition may happen. No choice location of save location is presented when saving in the editor.

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01-04-2014, 07:12 AM	#2
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Conversion shouldn't be necessary. Simply saving from the editor works fine for me.

01-04-2014, 07:31 AM	#3
Moonraker Addict Posts: 314 Karma: 1002965 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Device: ILiad. Gen 3, PocketBook 360, Kobo Aura HD, Kindle Oasis 2	Well, I don't know where Calibre is saving the file. It's not saving to the same folder that the original was in. i.e. it don't overwrite the original. It will save a new file if I select "Save a copy" and give it a different name and place in another folder. Still confused!

01-04-2014, 07:34 AM	#4
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Are you editing one of the books in your Calibre library, or running the editor externally? If I right click on a book in my Calibre library, select "Edit Book" from the pop-up menu, edit the book, then save it, the changes are certainly showing up for me.

01-04-2014, 07:41 AM	#5
Moonraker Addict Posts: 314 Karma: 1002965 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Device: ILiad. Gen 3, PocketBook 360, Kobo Aura HD, Kindle Oasis 2	I don't use a Calibre Library. I keep all my books in other folders in Windows. I drag and drop a book onto the Calibre screen from one of these Windows folders. After making changes I press "save" and then cannot find the file. I have looked into Calibre's Own Library folder which is where books go after conversion but it is not there. So I still don't know where Calibre puts the file?

01-04-2014, 08:16 AM	#6
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Ah, OK. Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with that workflow and can't assist. Does it work if you run the editor, open the book from within the editor, then save it?

01-04-2014, 08:56 AM	#8
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Or just put a shortcut to the editor on your desktop, run it, and use the editor's "File/Open" command.

01-04-2014, 10:44 AM	#9
Moonraker Addict Posts: 314 Karma: 1002965 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Device: ILiad. Gen 3, PocketBook 360, Kobo Aura HD, Kindle Oasis 2	I have been experimenting. There is no way to start Calibre and select File Open. I do not get that option. I can select File Add but then the book does not save when using the editor. This is what is confusing to me. I get the option to save the file from within Editor but it does not save. The best way, so far, is to do what Harry suggested and have a shortcut to the Editor on my desktop. I get the option to Open Book and I get the option to Save or Save a Copy. I don't get the option to Save File As but I suppose Save a Copy is nearly the same thing. At least, doing it this way my editing is saved. Thank you all for your help.

01-04-2014, 10:48 AM	#10
HarryT eBook Enthusiast Posts: 85,544 Karma: 93383099 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: UK Device: Kindle Oasis 2, iPad Pro 10.5", iPhone 6	Glad you've got it working!

01-05-2014, 07:00 AM	#14
mrmikel Color me gone Posts: 2,089 Karma: 1445295 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Oregon Coast Device: PRS-300	A choice is presented if you save a copy. But you get a dialog box asking if you want to replace the existing one, if it will overwrite a file with the same name.

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